IggyPride00
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:19am
                            
                        I define a "known commodity" as having coached his team to a Super Bowl. Notice how that applies to all 3 coaches I mentioned?lhslep134;1353877 wrote:Except in the case of the Seahawks with Carroll and the Colts with Pagano/Arians. And what about Chan Gailey, known commodity? Yeah, a known commodity is DEFINITELY the way the go... :rolleyes:
IggyPride00
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:21am
                            
                        We swapped spots with Minnesota so as far as I am concerned they are as bad as we are.lhslep134;1353882 wrote:Only 2 teams drafted in front of us. Both made the playoffs after drafting true franchise QBs who had transcendental rookie seasons.
Congrats on making a completely irrelevant point?
I forgot that we swapped with them so you are technically correct, but my larger point still stands that only in Cleveland does it have to take 10 years to build a winner.
lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:32am
                            
                        Chan Gailey coached in a super bowl. Last I checked, Offensive Coordinators are coaches.IggyPride00;1353891 wrote:I define a "known commodity" as having coached his team to a Super Bowl. Notice how that applies to all 3 coaches I mentioned?
 
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:36am
                            
                        
                                Live press conf on Browns web site right now
                            
                         
                                                                Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:38am
                            
                        royal_k;1353915 wrote:Live press conf on Browns web site right now
On sto as well.
 
                                                                se-alum
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 11:40am
                            
                        
                                Keep us updated.
                            
                         
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:04pm
                            
                        
                                What I got out of it
Head coach will be hired before the player personnel guy.
HC job is attractive due to ownership and city being a great football town.
Want to build sustainable success
And the HC will probably be high profile
                        Head coach will be hired before the player personnel guy.
HC job is attractive due to ownership and city being a great football town.
Want to build sustainable success
And the HC will probably be high profile
 
                                                                GoChiefs
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:07pm
                            
                        
                                Continue building through the draft
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Gardens35
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:11pm
                            
                        royal_k;1353936 wrote:What I got out of it
Head coach will be hired before the player personnel guy.
HC job is attractive due to ownership and city being a great football town.
Want to build sustainable success
And the HC will probably be high profile
Reno
 
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:16pm
                            
                        Janet??Gardens35;1353942 wrote:Reno
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:34pm
                            
                        royal_k;1353943 wrote:Janet??
POGTFO
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:48pm
                            
                        
                                HC better be high profile..I'm sick of these fuckers we've had. Read something that Cleveland has had a coach fired/quit/resign/whatever every season for the last 5 years or so. Pathetic. Get a fucking winner here for the love of God.
                            
                         
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 12:51pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1353960 wrote:HC better be high profile..I'm sick of these fuckers we've had. Read something that Cleveland has had a coach fired/quit/resign/whatever every season for the last 5 years or so. Pathetic. Get a fucking winner here for the love of God.
Exactly. The last two hires my initial reaction was "ok, so who will we hire in 2 years."
 
                                                                ts1227
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm
                            
                         Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot#Falcons OC Dirk Koetter will interview with#Browns, #Eagles and #Chiefs this week, according to Fox Sports' @alexmarvez
 
                                                                jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:15pm
                            
                        
                                Why is Koetter the "it" guy? 
Was a failure at Arizona State and even though Atlanta is a really good team, their offense is far from spectacular
                        Was a failure at Arizona State and even though Atlanta is a really good team, their offense is far from spectacular
 
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:26pm
                            
                        
                                I would take Norv Turner as our OC.
                            
                         
                                                                Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:32pm
                            
                        
                                They also said head coach will have a lot of say with personnel decisions.
                            
                         
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:46pm
                            
                        LMAO, see you later ya fuckin bumCommander of Awesome;1353699 wrote:
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:46pm
                            
                        
                                Not sure why, but that pic really brings teh lulz for me.
                            
                        IggyPride00
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 1:49pm
                            
                        Didn't they say though that would be dependent on who the hire was?Midstate01;1353999 wrote:They also said head coach will have a lot of say with personnel decisions.
I can see handing over player control to a high profile coach, but if it a first time guy with no previous head coaching experience (Chip Kelly is the only one I would give that power to because his system is unique) then that is asking for disaster.
If they can't lure a high profile coach here then they need a strong GM with a track record of building a winner to be picking the players.
Haslam can get a high profile coach if he wants one, all that is standing between him and making it happen is money. For what he spent on the team $6-9 Million a year for the right coach is a rounding error when you consider that if he could get a winner on the field he would make the money back in spades if a football renaissance happened in Cleveland.
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 2:06pm
                            
                        
                                Bill Cowher will be the hire.
Bill will bring in Mularkey who was just fired to be the OC.
That will fix one side of the ball. The defense has been pretty good and cowher will bring in someone who will bring it to the next level.
and the browns will be serious contenders within 2 seasons.
The new owner will steeler-ize the franchise, and they will win.
Mark that down as a guarentee
                        Bill will bring in Mularkey who was just fired to be the OC.
That will fix one side of the ball. The defense has been pretty good and cowher will bring in someone who will bring it to the next level.
and the browns will be serious contenders within 2 seasons.
The new owner will steeler-ize the franchise, and they will win.
Mark that down as a guarentee
                                        
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                                                                buckeyes_woowee
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 2:09pm
                            
                        Negativethavoice;1354024 wrote:Bill Cowher will be the hire.
Bill will bring in Mularkey who was just fired to be the OC.
That will fix one side of the ball. The defense has been pretty good and cowher will bring in someone who will bring it to the next level.
and the browns will be serious contenders within 2 seasons.
The new owner will steeler-ize the franchise, and they will win.
Mark that down as a guarentee
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 2:25pm
                            
                        
lol.....smh
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 2:26pm
                            
                        
                                Why not?
He is a winner.
Tough coach that is needed.
A former Brown.
With a number of offensive guys out there he would bring in an offensive whiz to take care of the offense and he would be the face of the franchise.
                        He is a winner.
Tough coach that is needed.
A former Brown.
With a number of offensive guys out there he would bring in an offensive whiz to take care of the offense and he would be the face of the franchise.
 
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Dec 31, 2012 2:29pm
                            
                        
                                I would take Cowher in a heartbeat.
                            
                        