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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:36pm
                            
                        No you wouldn't. You're being over dramatic because you're too close to the situation. There are worse NFL backups than Weeden right now who would be much worse. Tuel is one of them. Not saying Weeden doesn't suck, because he does, but he's not the worst QB in the league.SportsAndLady;1522439 wrote:We saw what? Half a game from tuel? I'm sure he sucks, yeah. But I'll say it again I'll take any other QB over weeden.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:38pm
                            
                        Matt Barkley agrees.BR1986FB;1522446 wrote:No you wouldn't. You're being over dramatic because you're too close to the situation. There are worse NFL backups than Weeden right now who would be much worse. Tuel is one of them. Not saying Weeden doesn't suck, because he does, but he's not the worst QB in the league.
Lol at USC, the crown jewel of colleges producing overhyped QBs.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:43pm
                            
                        
                                Anybody going to start a game day thread? I failed miserably last week. Don't want a bungals thread to go up before a Browns one.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:49pm
                            
                        
                                Believe me, there are at least 15 QB's at or below Weeden's level in the NFL and that's not including rookies like Barkley. He still sucks but he's far from the worst.
                            
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:55pm
                            
                        I am saying I would take any other QB in the league to start this weekend over weeden. Not saying he is the worst, but saying he's the last person I want QBing this team.BR1986FB;1522462 wrote:Believe me, there are at least 15 QB's at or below Weeden's level in the NFL and that's not including rookies like Barkley. He still sucks but he's far from the worst.
He does shit that makes me embarrassed to be a browns fan. Plus he's a ginger
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:56pm
                            
                        
                                Chiefs have the best scoring d in the league. This is going to be miserable.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 23, 2013 12:57pm
                            
                        Ok, well that makes more sense. I get the "last person I'd want starting at QB" part now.SportsAndLady;1522467 wrote:I am saying I would take any other QB in the league to start this weekend over weeden. Not saying he is the worst, but saying he's the last person I want QBing this team.
He does shit that makes me embarrassed to be a browns fan. Plus he's a ginger
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:13pm
                            
                        
                                The Browns need to make a phone call to Troy Smith and see if he wants to win games in the NFL.  Can you imagine the price of tickets if you bring in a Heisman trophy winning Ohio State QB?
Maybe even BR would go to a game then.
                        Maybe even BR would go to a game then.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:19pm
                            
                        
                                The disappointing thing for me isn't the fact that Weeden blows, is terribly inaccurate, and is a ginger, it's the fact that he doesn't learn from making mistakes. How many people verbally acknowledge that they need to change something (get the ball out faster) and then continue to make the same mistake. Not to mention, I KNOW he got ripped for that ridiculous underhand shovel attempt that got picked against the Lions, and then he turned around and did the same BS this past week. Only Brett Favre gets away with that crap...
                            
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:25pm
                            
                        When you can't change what you know needs changing, it means you just don't have the ability. Weeden can't read a defense, plain and simple. He can't see a play developing, he has to wait till it's already developed, and in the NFL, it's already too late at that point. The successful QB's throw to spots where WR's will be, not where they already are.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1522495 wrote:The disappointing thing for me isn't the fact that Weeden blows, is terribly inaccurate, and is a ginger, it's the fact that he doesn't learn from making mistakes. How many people verbally acknowledge that they need to change something (get the ball out faster) and then continue to make the same mistake. Not to mention, I KNOW he got ripped for that ridiculous underhand shovel attempt that got picked against the Lions, and then he turned around and did the same BS this past week. Only Brett Favre gets away with that crap...
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:25pm
                            
                        That'd be soooo exciting..sleeper;1522486 wrote:The Browns need to make a phone call to Troy Smith and see if he wants to win games in the NFL. Can you imagine the price of tickets if you bring in a Heisman trophy winning Ohio State QB?
Maybe even BR would go to a game then.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:31pm
                            
                        Started it. If we lose, someone besides one of us will need to start the next one.Commander of Awesome;1522455 wrote:Anybody going to start a game day thread? I failed miserably last week. Don't want a bungals thread to go up before a Browns one.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:32pm
                            
                        Oh, we're losing, no doubt about that.lhslep134;1522523 wrote:Started it. If we lose, someone besides one of us will need to start the next one.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 1:32pm
                            
                        Yeah I mean Carson Palmer isn't even a "successful" QB anymore, and he was throwing passes on the money right before receivers made their cuts last time I watched him. Weeden blowsse-alum;1522513 wrote: The successful QB's throw to spots where WR's will be, not where they already are.
                                        
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                                Oct 23, 2013 3:31pm
                            
                        NOsleeper;1522486 wrote:The Browns need to make a phone call to Troy Smith and see if he wants to win games in the NFL. Can you imagine the price of tickets if you bring in a Heisman trophy winning Ohio State QB?
Maybe even BR would go to a game then.
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                                Oct 23, 2013 3:44pm
                            
                        Since you wanted Weeden in the first place, your opinion doesn't countBR1986FB;1522619 wrote:NO
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                                Oct 23, 2013 3:53pm
                            
                        Tickets will be on me. If it happens, I will fly in for every game and paint a T on my chest and you can paint a . on yours.BR1986FB;1522619 wrote:NO
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                                Oct 23, 2013 6:14pm
                            
                        
                                I just found a pic of the card that the team got Flipper because he was benched. 
                            
                        
                            
                                        
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                                Oct 23, 2013 11:07pm
                            
                        Thank you. I've been trying to explain why Weeden sucks so bad, but I couldn't find the proper (and non-profane) words. You hit the nail on the head.se-alum;1522513 wrote:When you can't change what you know needs changing, it means you just don't have the ability. Weeden can't read a defense, plain and simple. He can't see a play developing, he has to wait till it's already developed, and in the NFL, it's already too late at that point. The successful QB's throw to spots where WR's will be, not where they already are.
You know, when you have 3rd and 8 and throw a six-yard pass over and over again it might mean you cannot comprehend what it means to be a quarterback in the NFL.
                                        
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                                Oct 23, 2013 11:23pm
                            
                        
                                Jason Campbell? Never heard of him.
                            
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                                Oct 24, 2013 12:50am
                            
                        6 yard passes are fine when you have the accuracy to lead your receiver into open field, but even when Weeden gets a receiver open the throw is not in the right place.stlouiedipalma;1523000 wrote:Thank you. I've been trying to explain why Weeden sucks so bad, but I couldn't find the proper (and non-profane) words. You hit the nail on the head.
You know, when you have 3rd and 8 and throw a six-yard pass over and over again it might mean you cannot comprehend what it means to be a quarterback in the NFL.
                                        
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                                Oct 24, 2013 4:43am
                            
                        Sure it does. Anyone who isn't a full blown blind OSU homer has seen enough of Troy Smith to know he blows.derek bomar;1522628 wrote:Since you wanted Weeden in the first place, your opinion doesn't count
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                                Oct 24, 2013 9:13am
                            
                        Finally! Somebody else recognizes how bad TWHPIH is and WAS.BR1986FB;1523051 wrote:Sure it does. Anyone who isn't a full blown blind OSU homer has seen enough of Troy Smith to know he blows.
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                                Oct 24, 2013 11:34am
                            
                        He has a winning record as a QB in the NFL and posted a 150+ passer rating in 2008. The guy is a winner and can win games for the Browns if they'd only give him a chance.BR1986FB;1523051 wrote:Sure it does. Anyone who isn't a full blown blind OSU homer has seen enough of Troy Smith to know he blows.
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                                Oct 24, 2013 12:00pm
                            
                        Stop.sleeper;1523210 wrote:He has a winning record as a QB in the NFL and posted a 150+ passer rating in 2008. The guy is a winner and can win games for the Browns if they'd only give him a chance.