Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 4, 2013 7:00pm
wes_mantooth;1357731 wrote:Lombardi, Banner and Kelly...sweet....maybe we can get our Jamarcus Russell. Any qbs in this years draft that can throw 50 yards from their knees? That is all we are looking for.
This is funny.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2013 7:06pm
I can only hope Weeden is gone! I'm fine with Colt being our QB next year now that he has an actual running back and more developed receivers, and a coach who isn't a dumbf*ck. My desire to draft a project QB who will be good 2-3 years down the road hasn't changed, but I would much rather see Colt than Weeden as our QB. Especially in an uptempo offense.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:11pm
I have no questions about Kelly being able to run successful schemes in the pros.
What I do question is his ability to handle a pro team. Don't forget that Kelly chased off 2 starting qbs from Oregon in his 4 years as head coach. If he clashes with egos that bad in college, how is he gonna handle the egos of pros making millions of $$.
I'm skeptical about his ability to do so, but if he keeps an open mind to learning, he can become successful
What I do question is his ability to handle a pro team. Don't forget that Kelly chased off 2 starting qbs from Oregon in his 4 years as head coach. If he clashes with egos that bad in college, how is he gonna handle the egos of pros making millions of $$.
I'm skeptical about his ability to do so, but if he keeps an open mind to learning, he can become successful
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2013 7:19pm
Who did he run off? Roper transfered because he lost his starting job, and Masoli was suspended for felony burglary then kicked off the team when he was caught with drugs.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2013 7:23pm
It was a prototypical inflammatory LJ comment where he makes a statement not shrouded in any bit of truth. Chip did not run those QBs off, like you said.Mulva;1357806 wrote:Who did he run off? Roper transfered because he lost his starting job, and Masoli was suspended for felony burglary then kicked off the team when he was caught with drugs.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 4, 2013 7:24pm
The guy hands out offensive advice to bill fucking belichick. Id love to see what he can do for us. Our offensive play calling has been pissing people off for years. We sure as hell wouldn't have that problem anymore.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:25pm
Mulva;1357806 wrote:Who did he run off? Roper transfered because he lost his starting job, and Masoli was suspended for felony burglary then kicked off the team when he was caught with drugs.
Roper, Darron Thomas entered the draft.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:26pm
lhslep134;1357807 wrote:It was a prototypical inflammatory LJ post where he makes a statement not shrouded in any bit of truth.
Yeah ok, or 100% truth
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 4, 2013 7:28pm
Wasnt aware Darron Thomas and Kelly clashed. LOL @ Darron Thomas being undrafted though.LJ;1357809 wrote:Roper, Darron Thomas entered the draft.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 4, 2013 7:32pm
Pick6;1357813 wrote:Wasnt aware Darron Thomas and Kelly clashed. LOL @ Darron Thomas being undrafted though.
This.
Sounds like Chip was right.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2013 7:34pm
Right, I forgot you're an expert on Oregon football too. Silly me.LJ;1357810 wrote:Yeah ok, or 100% truth
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:35pm
lhslep134;1357817 wrote:Right, I forgot you're an expert on Oregon football too. Silly me.
What the fuck is your problem?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jan 4, 2013 7:43pm
I was against Lombardi coming to Cleveland but let's be honest it can't get much worse. We have been 5-11 4-12 5-11 the last three years
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:45pm
http://750thegame.com/common/global_audio/379/61570.mp3Pick6;1357813 wrote:Wasnt aware Darron Thomas and Kelly clashed. LOL @ Darron Thomas being undrafted though.
“He should be the starting quarterback at the University of Oregon right now.” Floyd said.
“Why did he leave?” The radio personality asked.
“Because of Chip Kelly. 100%. 1oo%. Him and Chip Kelly got into it. Just saying, ‘Coach what do you think my chances would be if I declared in the draft?’ He is going to Chip Kelly as a mentor, coach, as a father figure. ‘You know Coach, I have aspirations to play at the next level. Like any other player does at the college level.’”
“What did Chip tell him?”
“Chip was like ‘WHAT? You want to leave? You think you are going to go to the draft? You think you will get selected in the draft? We don’t want you back. Kick rocks.’”
“That’s what Chip said?”
“YES! Him and Darron got into it heavy.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 4, 2013 7:45pm
This is a good point.Rotinaj;1357808 wrote:The guy hands out offensive advice to bill fucking belichick. Id love to see what he can do for us. Our offensive play calling has been pissing people off for years. We sure as hell wouldn't have that problem anymore.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 4, 2013 7:47pm
Come on LJ, that's pretty flimsy. A disgruntled kid that got kicked off the team...hmmmLJ;1357822 wrote:http://750thegame.com/common/global_audio/379/61570.mp3
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 4, 2013 7:47pm
Ya, I'm sure Thomas was an angel in that particular situation.
Roper lost his job to Masoli.
Roper lost his job to Masoli.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 4, 2013 7:48pm
Good point.shook_17;1357821 wrote:I was against Lombardi coming to Cleveland but let's be honest it can't get much worse. We have been 5-11 4-12 5-11 the last three years
I do not know enough about Lombardi to really judge, but from a quick search..Id say the Browns were alright under him before. No clue how the Eagles were the year he was there/why he was left or fired. Im not sure how fair it would be to judge him under Al Davis, who we know was making most of the decisions.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:49pm
There were lots of reports like that out there.Commander of Awesome;1357824 wrote:Come on LJ, that's pretty flimsy. A disgruntled kid that got kicked off the team...hmmm
But look, it's not like I said he can't do it, it's honestly the only question I have about him moving to the NFL.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 4, 2013 7:51pm
I find it REAL hard to believe Chip would tell him they do not want him back on the team and to "kick rocks". And as for the evaluation, he was right.LJ;1357822 wrote:http://750thegame.com/common/global_audio/379/61570.mp3
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:54pm
If you look back there is a lot of dissent around Roper leavingAutomatik;1357825 wrote:
Roper lost his job to Masoli.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 4, 2013 7:55pm
As for Kelly, a couple weeks ago I did not like it at all. But after learning about his past at New Hampshire, I have learned and have hope that he will use the offensive talent he has in the way that is the most beneficial. I see him molding a system around the talent he has/acquires, not the other way around. And for that, I do not think it is necessarily the end of Weeden, though still probably likely, because I see Richardson as more valuable than Weeden.
Smart Football ‏@smartfootball Chip Kelly's top run plays -- inside zone, outside zone, and power (guard pull) -- are same Trent Richardson ran at Alabama
Smart Football ‏@smartfootball Chip Kelly's top run plays -- inside zone, outside zone, and power (guard pull) -- are same Trent Richardson ran at Alabama
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:56pm
I don't find it hard to believe. I also don't think Thomas was as innocent as the quote above.Pick6;1357830 wrote:I find it REAL hard to believe Chip would tell him they do not want him back on the team and to "kick rocks". And as for the evaluation, he was right.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 4, 2013 7:57pm
Well, I can agree with that. But that would mean the report Floyd gave was inaccurate.LJ;1357838 wrote:I don't find it hard to believe. I also don't think Thomas was as innocent as the quote above.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 4, 2013 7:59pm
NahPick6;1357842 wrote:Well, I can agree with that. But that would mean the report Floyd gave was inaccurate.
Him and Darron got into it heavy.