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Dec 29, 2012 11:43 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1352283 wrote:Again, not sure why I'm the bad guy here. How many times do I need to say that if these guys raped that girl they should be prosecuted? 100 times? 1,000 times? 10,000 times?
Again. We all agree.

The problem is that more people were involved and the authorities haven't done much/any investigating at all. Because the authorities refuse to investigate everybody involved, Anonymous is making sure that they are not able to wash their hands and walk away. Much more to this story than what Steubenville or the cops in town would like you to believe
Dec 29, 2012 11:43am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:45 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1352294 wrote:I just don't understand why Anonymous has so much more credibility than the authorities.
Because they have provided photos for evidence (so people have claimed, I wasn't about to download the link to look), etc....and the authorities have done nothing in the past months since this was first reported.
Dec 29, 2012 11:45am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:46 AM
Ustream is up
Dec 29, 2012 11:46am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:48 AM
karen lotz;1352297 wrote:Ustream is up
Link? I'm not seeing anything on the ones posted.
Dec 29, 2012 11:48am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:49 AM
GoChiefs;1352296 wrote:Because they have provided photos for evidence (so people have claimed, I wasn't about to download the link to look), etc....and the authorities have done nothing.
Which goes back to the authentication angle. Robin Hood doesn't exist in our world. If one wants to play the role of a cop, be a cop. You can't commit a crime to prevent crimes without suffering consequences - this isn't Batman. Certainly with our technological advances photos can be manipulated, photoshopped, yadda yadda yadda, if they have photos they should in good conscience show their validity. But if they are unwilling, I'm not sure what good internet shaming does.
Dec 29, 2012 11:49am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:50 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1352294 wrote:I don't disagree with you Fly4Fun, I just don't understand why Anonymous has so much more credibility than the authorities. I can see reasons why both can be compromised, yet reading the thread it seems like like one is infallible. Don't get it.
Okay, so now this is where the argument should be going. I don't think in general Anonymous has much more credibility than the authorities. But with the information out there in this case, it does appear that Anonymous has more credibility than the local authorities in Steubenville. Essentially Stuebenville is losing a social media and public perception battle.

And a couple of the factors that give Anonymous credibility is their recent history and the lack of a dog in the fight so to say. They don't win or lose anything on the outcome of this. They just saw what they think is a wrong and are trying to bring lots of attention to it.

Things working against Stuebenville would be the reaction of a local authority when 1st trying to report it. The social media texts and pictures regarding that time period. And the recent crucifixion of football machines being bigger than the criminal justice system (i.e. Penn State).

But as I said, this isn't about trying to prove a case in a court of law for Anonymous. This is about societal pressure. But one potential goal for Anonymous is that their societal pressure they bring down would convince some individuals in the area to "do the right thing" and hopefully this would turn into the criminal justice system operating correctly.
Dec 29, 2012 11:50am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:51 AM
Anybody have a picture on OpRedRoll's UStream? I'm trying to watch on my iPad and I am only getting sound
Dec 29, 2012 11:51am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:53 AM
jordo212000;1352303 wrote:Anybody have a picture on OpRedRoll's UStream? I'm trying to watch on my iPad and I am only getting sound

Yeah it started out choppy but give it a little time to buffer. Its pretty clear now.
Dec 29, 2012 11:53am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:53 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1352301 wrote:Which goes back to the authentication angle. Robin Hood doesn't exist in our world. If one wants to play the role of a cop, be a cop. You can't commit a crime to prevent crimes without suffering consequences - this isn't Batman. Certainly with our technological advances photos can be manipulated, photoshopped, yadda yadda yadda, if they have photos they should in good conscience show their validity. But if they are unwilling, I'm not sure what good internet shaming does.
What part of "AUTHORITIES HAVE DONE NOTHING" do you not understand? The cops, that wanted to be cops, have chose to sit on their asses and sweep this under the rug. They would rather let those that committed the crimes get away without suffering consequences because they play on the football team. THE COPS THAT CHOSE TO BE COPS IN STEUBENVILLE HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS CASE.
Dec 29, 2012 11:53am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:56 AM
karen lotz;1352306 wrote:Yeah it started out choppy but give it a little time to buffer. Its pretty clear now.

Still not working for me. Only sound
Dec 29, 2012 11:56am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:56 AM
GoChiefs;1352307 wrote:What part of "AUTHORITIES HAVE DONE NOTHING" do you not understand? The cops, that wanted to be cops, have chose to sit on their asses and sweep this under the rug. They would rather let those that committed the crimes get away without suffering consequences because they play on the football team. THE COPS THAT CHOSE TO BE COPS IN STEUBENVILLE HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS CASE.
Again, don't know much about Steubenville, but from the NYT article I read, there was potential evidence for the Feds to come in. With the VAWA and an interstate crime, there could possibly have been a federal action.
Dec 29, 2012 11:56am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:57 AM
Well here's the news.
Dec 29, 2012 11:57am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:57 AM
Are those police officers lined on the other side of the street?
Dec 29, 2012 11:57am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:58 AM
GoChiefs;1352307 wrote:What part of "AUTHORITIES HAVE DONE NOTHING" do you not understand? The cops, that wanted to be cops, have chose to sit on their asses and sweep this under the rug. They would rather let those that committed the crimes get away without suffering consequences because they play on the football team. THE COPS THAT CHOSE TO BE COPS IN STEUBENVILLE HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS CASE.
He needs to read the link posted where a rape victim went to a sergeant in Steubenville and he told her to "come back next thursday, I have to clean my gutters."

But yes, Anon should stop what they're doing because that guy will take care of this injustice.

/MB
Dec 29, 2012 11:58am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:58 AM
jordo212000;1352309 wrote:Still not working for me. Only sound

They are filming a news reporter interviewing a protester now. Other than that, its mostly a lot of people in the masks standing around. Some have signs.
Dec 29, 2012 11:58am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:58 AM
Getting heated.
Dec 29, 2012 11:58am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:59 AM
Links aren't working for me on this computer..don't think I have Adobe..fack
Dec 29, 2012 11:59am
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Dec 29, 2012 11:59 AM
This is getting good.
Dec 29, 2012 11:59am
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00 PM
This is kind of humorous watching the local news trying to interview the crowd. Without a real leader it's hard to get a central intelligent message.
Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00 PM
SportsAndLady;1352313 wrote:He needs to read the link posted where a rape victim went to a sergeant in Steubenville and he told her to "come back next thursday, I have to clean my gutters."

But yes, Anon should stop what they're doing because that guy will take care of this injustice.

/MB
Link?

/SportsandLady

BTW, great game against Virginia Tech.
Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm
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Dec 29, 2012 12:01 PM
Channel 7 chants? Lulz.
Dec 29, 2012 12:01pm
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Dec 29, 2012 12:01 PM
Fuck channel 9

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