Laley23;1333244 wrote:You can make a really good living off Graphic Design (about 55-65k on average) and it is very low stress work, and quite fun. If you get into Computer Graphics with it, and can apply it to sports production, it is not only profitable but extremely fun.

You can make a good living majoring in anything. Your point?

Graphic design doesn't exactly scream "academics" like SJ would like to believe all ND players care about.

sleeper;1333206 wrote:He just said on national television he majored in Graphic design. It's a joke degree and you know it.

Well his und.com account says differently.

I'll play this game though.

QB - Braxton Miller - Communications
RB - Carlos Hyde - Criminology
WR - Devin Smith - Undecided
WR - Corey Brown - Criminology
WR - Jake Stoneburner - Family Resource Management
TE - Nick Vannett - Undecided
LT - Jack Mewhort - Family Resource Management
LG - Andrew Norwell - Communications
C - Corey Linsley - Economics
RG - Marcus Hall - African-American and African Studes
RT - Reid Fragel - Communications

DE - Nathan Williams - Communications
DT - Garrett Goebel - Construction Management
DT - Johnathan Hankins - Criminology
DE - John Simon - Sports & Leisure Studies
OLB - Joshua Perry - Undecided
MLB - Storm Klein - Sports & Leisure Studies
OLB - Ryan Shazier - Communications
CB - Travis Howard - Family Resource Management
CB - Bradley Roby - Communications
S - Christian Bryant - African-American & African Studies
S - CJ Barnett - Criminology

Compared to Notre Dame:

QB - Everett Golson - "College of Business"
RB - Theo Riddick - Film, Television, and Theatre
WR - TJ Jones - Film, Television, and Theatre
WR - John Goodman - Management Consulting (Masters)
WR - Roby Toma - Film, Television, and Theatre
TE - Tyler Eifert - Management Consulting
LT - Zach Martin - Management Entrepreuneurship
LG - Chris Watt - Marketing
C - Braxston Cave - Psychology (Masters)
RG - Mike Golic Jr - "graduate studies program"
RT - Christian Lombard - Management Consulting

DE - Stephon Tuitt - "College of Arts and Letters"
NG - Louis Nix - Film, Television, and Theatre
DE - Kapron Lewis-Moore - Marketing (Masters)
OLB - Prince Shembo - "College of Arts and Letters"
MLB - Dan Fox - Management Consulting
MLB - Manti Te'o - Design
OLB - Danny Spond - Political Science
CB - Bennett Jackson - "College of Business"
CB - KeiVarae Russell - Freshman (Not allowed to declare a major)
S - Zeke Motta - Industrial Design
S - Matthias Farley - Film, Television, and Theatre

....it's even further apart than I thought it'd be.

I can speak to a couple of things. One, in my first year section of 75 students the were nine other domers besides myself. The hostility certainly doesn't exist on the academic world, although we have tended to form a cliche that, now as third years, we invite the lower year ND alumni to game-watches and intramural teams.
Next, the ND football team in general is pretty good about grades, but there are always exceptions. Their GPA as a whole was often times better than that of the entire student body, and on a couple occasions mine. That being said, Weis was given four to five academic exceptions per recruiting class and most of them ended up majoring in sociology. I know this because it was my second major in prep for Law. A lot of them were good guys, most of them, but a few cocky ones too-- see Joe Fauria especially. Some good ones like Golden (who still will wish me a happy birthday) and Aldridge, as opposed to maybe Mike Floyd who had been to everyone of our parties his sophomore year yet acted confused when he saw me in Chicago Miami weekend.

Next, I am very good friends with someone who played at Ohio State recently and I can tell you that academics were important to Tressel. The only way to work out at Woody Hayes was to have earned your degree. Having said that, there were also a lot of teammates who our friend did not like in the slightest.

I am very happy in Columbus, and have enjoyed my three years here. I think my classmates and I have developed a mutual respect for each others teams. I do have to say that there have been times that I have taken a lot of unnecessary shit on the street for simply wearing my Notre Dame stuff, but it is amazing how quickly that can stop when you don't give up 500 yards to Denard

Hope that helps

vball10set;1332593 wrote:I was reading the CBB forum and someone brought up the fact that "over half of the OSU fans on here prolly graduated from MAC schools",....

prolly

sjmvsfscs08;1333122 wrote:Well the four of my friends who go there say they aren't and I certainly trust their opinions.

Am I the only one who when reading an argument, sees someone defend their stance with "Well my friends..." and just disregards the rest? You could be making this up for all we know.

athlete37;1333326 wrote:Hope that helps

It really didn't... but thanks for playing.

sleeper;1332856 wrote:And witnessed zero BCS bowl wins.

LOL this year will be no different.

sjmvsfscs08;1333305 wrote:Well his und.com account says differently.

I'll play this game though.

QB - Braxton Miller - Communications
RB - Carlos Hyde - Criminology
WR - Devin Smith - Undecided
WR - Corey Brown - Criminology
WR - Jake Stoneburner - Family Resource Management
TE - Nick Vannett - Undecided
LT - Jack Mewhort - Family Resource Management
LG - Andrew Norwell - Communications
C - Corey Linsley - Economics
RG - Marcus Hall - African-American and African Studes
RT - Reid Fragel - Communications

DE - Nathan Williams - Communications
DT - Garrett Goebel - Construction Management
DT - Johnathan Hankins - Criminology
DE - John Simon - Sports & Leisure Studies
OLB - Joshua Perry - Undecided
MLB - Storm Klein - Sports & Leisure Studies
OLB - Ryan Shazier - Communications
CB - Travis Howard - Family Resource Management
CB - Bradley Roby - Communications
S - Christian Bryant - African-American & African Studies
S - CJ Barnett - Criminology

Compared to Notre Dame:

QB - Everett Golson - "College of Business"
RB - Theo Riddick - Film, Television, and Theatre
WR - TJ Jones - Film, Television, and Theatre
WR - John Goodman - Management Consulting (Masters)
WR - Roby Toma - Film, Television, and Theatre
TE - Tyler Eifert - Management Consulting
LT - Zach Martin - Management Entrepreuneurship
LG - Chris Watt - Marketing
C - Braxston Cave - Psychology (Masters)
RG - Mike Golic Jr - "graduate studies program"
RT - Christian Lombard - Management Consulting

DE - Stephon Tuitt - "College of Arts and Letters"
NG - Louis Nix - Film, Television, and Theatre
DE - Kapron Lewis-Moore - Marketing (Masters)
OLB - Prince Shembo - "College of Arts and Letters"
MLB - Dan Fox - Management Consulting
MLB - Manti Te'o - Design
OLB - Danny Spond - Political Science
CB - Bennett Jackson - "College of Business"
CB - KeiVarae Russell - Freshman (Not allowed to declare a major)
S - Zeke Motta - Industrial Design
S - Matthias Farley - Film, Television, and Theatre

....it's even further apart than I thought it'd be.

You could have saved the effort. I really don't care what the football players at OSU or ND major in; they are not there for academics, they are there to win championships(well at OSU, at ND they are there to lose bowl game).

This thread sure turned into a shit storm in a hurry.

The OSU football team isn't full of merit scholars?! OMG WHO KNEW?!

sleeper;1333478 wrote:You could have saved the effort. I really don't care what the football players at OSU or ND major in; they are not there for academics, they are there to win championships(well at OSU, at ND they are there to lose bowl game).

One team is playing for a championship, the other is staying home because they got busted taking illegal benefits and the program covered it up so that they could attempt to win. That says a lot.

Listen, he asked why I root for Notre Dame over Ohio State and that is the reason. I love the idea of the #1 school in the country also being #1 in graduation rate. I don't like the idea of college football being solely a minor league system.

The bolded part says everything for me.

I am very happy in Columbus, and have enjoyed my three years here. I think my classmates and I have developed a mutual respect for each others teams. I do have to say that there have been times that I have taken a lot of unnecessary shit on the street for simply wearing my Notre Dame stuff, but it is amazing how quickly that can stop when you don't give up 500 yards to Denard

ND is the most hated university in the country and it's because of their arrogant pompous holier-than-thou fans. Now, don't get me wrong OSU(and every other school has similar fans) but at least at OSU they win games. At ND, it's been 20 years since they've won games and you still deal with this type of fans.

Win, then talk shit. Don't lose, then talk shit.

Automatik;1333480 wrote:The OSU football team isn't full of merit scholars?! OMG WHO KNEW?!

One word: Craig Krenzel

sjmvsfscs08;1333483 wrote:One team is playing for a championship, the other is staying home because they got busted taking illegal benefits and the program covered it up so that they could attempt to win. That says a lot.

Listen, he asked why I root for Notre Dame over Ohio State and that is the reason. I love the idea of the #1 school in the country also being #1 in graduation rate. I don't like the idea of college football being solely a minor league system.

The bolded part says everything for me.

Enjoy it while it lasts; ND will not be winning anything this year per usual.

sleeper;1333495 wrote:Enjoy it while it lasts; ND will not be winning anything this year per usual.

At the very least, they won as many as Ohio State.

sleeper;1333493 wrote:One word: Craig Krenzel

That's 2 words. You obviously didn't go to OSU.

Eyooooo!! :laugh:

sjmvsfscs08;1333496 wrote:At the very least, they won as many as Ohio State.

:thumbup:

sleeper;1333499 wrote::thumbup:

That is, until Ohio State has to disown wins from players receiving illegal benefits again...

Listen guys, let's clear something up, real fast.


Notre Dame Football Killed Declan Sullivan.

"Illegal Benefits"? ...they were selling / trading shit that had been given to them. Wrong? Yes. But if Jimmy The Liar had come clean when he first heard of it, worst case is 5 guys miss first two games against two MAC schools and OSU is kicking ND's ass in Miami on Jan 8 the same way we've kicked your ass the past 3x they played.

sjmvsfscs08;1333483 wrote:One team is playing for a championship, the other is staying home because they got busted taking illegal benefits and the program covered it up so that they could attempt to win.

Pwned. That's a walk-off right there. /thread

OSU fans is maaaaaad....

WebFire;1333479 wrote:This thread sure turned into a **** storm in a hurry.

lol, it was a simple question, but I should've known it would turn into this...to those responsible, thanks a lotz!!!

ernest_t_bass;1333506 wrote:Listen guys, let's clear something up, real fast.


Notre Dame Football Killed Declan Sullivan.

...and don't forget Lizzie Seeburg. Christ Almighty these SOBs have killed more people than Ray Lewis.

Tiernan;1333513 wrote:"Illegal Benefits"? ...they were selling / trading shit that had been given to them. Wrong? Yes. But if Jimmy The Liar had come clean when he first heard of it, worst case is 5 guys miss first two games against two MAC schools and OSU is kicking ND's ass in Miami on Jan 8 the same way we've kicked your ass the past 3x they played.

If? lolol