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Havin Fun
Posts: 336
Sep 29, 2013 9:26pm
O-Trap;1509742 wrote:It's not exactly pointless. Norwayne has been accepted as the standard of the WCAL in recent years, so for the plausibility to exist that they could be 3-2 is certainly something I could see people wanting to discuss.
5-0 Norwayne wouldn't be news. 3-2 Norwayne would be. See the difference?[/QUOTE
Sure couldn't have put this any better myself. I fully expected Norwayne to run over the entire league and breeze to 10-0 this year. Now I think Hillsdale and NW both have a shot at winning the league and beating the Bobcats.
Lets face it, if the Bears had a kicker, that game becomes even more interesting.
Give the bears some credit for playing at much higher level one year removed from 0-10.
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jaco
Posts: 226
Sep 30, 2013 9:23am
ha ha... Nope, she's not sung yet. But she's warming up her pipes.99bobcatdb;1508881 wrote:The fat lady has not sang yet
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Bobcat
Posts: 243
Sep 30, 2013 11:24am
Rumor has it that Harris has the same injury as last year in the same shoulder. Does anyone out there know if that's true? I haven't talked to anyone that knows for sure. If that's the case then that's a definite blow to the Cats.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Sep 30, 2013 11:31am
Would Cincy consider backing out? Lingering injuries may cause them to turn their head? Hopefully he recovers and gets back to 100%Bobcat;1509984 wrote:Rumor has it that Harris has the same injury as last year in the same shoulder. Does anyone out there know if that's true? I haven't talked to anyone that knows for sure. If that's the case then that's a definite blow to the Cats.
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TeeGreen
Posts: 23
Sep 30, 2013 11:56am
Certainly I can see the difference. Are you a school teacher or something? In Havin Fun's original post, he was not talking about the 'accepted standard of WCAL football', but rather 'a few things going a different way'. Breaks for good teams and bad teams could alter their records. This has nothing to do with the quality or lack of quality of a team.O-Trap;1509742 wrote:It's not exactly pointless. Norwayne has been accepted as the standard of the WCAL in recent years, so for the plausibility to exist that they could be 3-2 is certainly something I could see people wanting to discuss.
5-0 Norwayne wouldn't be news. 3-2 Norwayne would be. See the difference?
Most every program runs its cycle. Norwayne is no different. But, they are still a good team this year, and should be 8-2 at the worst. Still a good standard.
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Bobcat
Posts: 243
Sep 30, 2013 12:14pm
If it is the same injury in the same shoulder I would be shocked if Cincy doesn't pull the scholarship. That would be a shame.
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Bobcat
Posts: 243
Sep 30, 2013 12:17pm
Yes 9-1 or 8-2 is a good record I just think that all of us Norwayne fans have gotten a little spoiled. We still have a good team and we should be happy about it. I think we're just adjusting to not destroying everyone we play.
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Sep 30, 2013 12:25pm
Hillsdale and Nwn (and maybe Chippewa) may disagree with 8-2, esp. If Harris out.TeeGreen;1510013 wrote:Certainly I can see the difference. Are you a school teacher or something? In Havin Fun's original post, he was not talking about the 'accepted standard of WCAL football', but rather 'a few things going a different way'. Breaks for good teams and bad teams could alter their records. This has nothing to do with the quality or lack of quality of a team.
Most every program runs its cycle. Norwayne is no different. But, they are still a good team this year, and should be 8-2 at the worst. Still a good standard.
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Sep 30, 2013 12:28pm
Crazy cycle that Norwayne, Northwestern and Hillsdale are as good as ever at the same time Dalton, Waynedale and Smithville are/were down.Bobcat;1510021 wrote:Yes 9-1 or 8-2 is a good record I just think that all of us Norwayne fans have gotten a little spoiled. We still have a good team and we should be happy about it. I think we're just adjusting to not destroying everyone we play.
Nice to see the Bears playing well again.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Sep 30, 2013 12:54pm
Its tough replacing kids like Wallace, the Zimmerly bros, and Berger. Plus all the talent they had up front for those couple of years...I think the Bobcats finish 7-3 with losses to Hillsdale and Northwestern.....and miss the playoffs.Bobcat;1510021 wrote:Yes 9-1 or 8-2 is a good record I just think that all of us Norwayne fans have gotten a little spoiled. We still have a good team and we should be happy about it. I think we're just adjusting to not destroying everyone we play.
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jaco
Posts: 226
Sep 30, 2013 2:47pm
Seeing Norwayne, Northwestern and Hillsdale on top of the standings is like dogs marrying cats. It's not natural and must be stopped!1_beast;1510026 wrote:Crazy cycle that Norwayne, Northwestern and Hillsdale are as good as ever at the same time Dalton, Waynedale and Smithville are/were down.
Nice to see the Bears playing well again.
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WCALfootballfan
Posts: 78
Sep 30, 2013 3:00pm
How about Mr. D-1, 4 catches for 8 yards...... last week 0 catches for 0 yards.
I think Harris has a better chance of keeping his scholarship. Lets hope his injury is not bad..
I think Harris has a better chance of keeping his scholarship. Lets hope his injury is not bad..
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Sep 30, 2013 3:13pm
I don't enjoy any of us being hard on a High school kid with a scholarship, but it seems we are all watching this train wreck carefully...WCALfootballfan;1510109 wrote:How about Mr. D-1, 4 catches for 8 yards...... last week 0 catches for 0 yards.
I think Harris has a better chance of keeping his scholarship. Lets hope his injury is not bad..
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WCALfootballfan
Posts: 78
Sep 30, 2013 3:43pm
Not trying to knock the kid.
I think everyone understands the value in getting a scholarship, good for him.
But I do believe as long as you are stating facts they can be discussed. I think if I am knocking anyone it is the Akron recruiters, I know Div. 3 recruiters that would not touch this kid, How is it that he gets a D1 ride?
Yes, it is interesting to watch because it makes no sense at this point.
I think everyone understands the value in getting a scholarship, good for him.
But I do believe as long as you are stating facts they can be discussed. I think if I am knocking anyone it is the Akron recruiters, I know Div. 3 recruiters that would not touch this kid, How is it that he gets a D1 ride?
Yes, it is interesting to watch because it makes no sense at this point.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Sep 30, 2013 4:47pm
I agree.WCALfootballfan;1510129 wrote:Not trying to knock the kid.
I think everyone understands the value in getting a scholarship, good for him.
But I do believe as long as you are stating facts they can be discussed. I think if I am knocking anyone it is the Akron recruiters, I know Div. 3 recruiters that would not touch this kid, How is it that he gets a D1 ride?
Yes, it is interesting to watch because it makes no sense at this point.
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Havin Fun
Posts: 336
Sep 30, 2013 5:58pm
I still think Norwayne is the favorite to win the league. I think the path is going to be a bit more exciting than what everyone thought five weeks ago. I am not sure if a school can pull a D1 offer?? I would think Cincy would honor any commitment they made to Harris. At least i hope they do!
dontcare
Posts: 425
Sep 30, 2013 7:06pm
Yes, same shoulder.Bobcat;1510020 wrote:If it is the same injury in the same shoulder I would be shocked if Cincy doesn't pull the scholarship. That would be a shame.
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jaco
Posts: 226
Sep 30, 2013 8:20pm
You betcha they can pull an offer.Havin Fun;1510169 wrote:I still think Norwayne is the favorite to win the league. I think the path is going to be a bit more exciting than what everyone thought five weeks ago. I am not sure if a school can pull a D1 offer?? I would think Cincy would honor any commitment they made to Harris. At least i hope they do!
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 30, 2013 9:17pm
He was talking about a "few things going a different way" because the outcome would have been discussion-worthy. That was my point. A 3-2 Norwayne team would certainly be discussion-worthy, and given that it came relatively close to happening, that's something that, under the recent circumstances, is worth noting.TeeGreen;1510013 wrote:Certainly I can see the difference. Are you a school teacher or something? In Havin Fun's original post, he was not talking about the 'accepted standard of WCAL football', but rather 'a few things going a different way'. Breaks for good teams and bad teams could alter their records. This has nothing to do with the quality or lack of quality of a team.
Most every program runs its cycle. Norwayne is no different. But, they are still a good team this year, and should be 8-2 at the worst. Still a good standard.
8-2 is a great record for a team with a good schedule.
It'd be a true shame if they did.jaco;1510223 wrote:You betcha they can pull an offer.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Oct 1, 2013 8:19am
University of Buffalo pulled theirs on Matt Davis of Orrvillle just a couple of years ago after he blew his knee up in a scrimmage. Maybe the severity of the injury will determine all of that.Havin Fun;1510169 wrote:I still think Norwayne is the favorite to win the league. I think the path is going to be a bit more exciting than what everyone thought five weeks ago. I am not sure if a school can pull a D1 offer?? I would think Cincy would honor any commitment they made to Harris. At least i hope they do!
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Oct 1, 2013 9:03am
Just like a kid can walk away after giving a verbal commitment, so can a university withdraw a verbal offer
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Bobcat
Posts: 243
Oct 1, 2013 9:36am
From what I read colleges pull offers on kids all of the time. It sounds like there's not nearly as much "honor" in the system as there was back in the day. From what I read it sounds like there is a lot of unspoken contingencies when a school offers....conduct, grades and staying healthy being 3 big ones.
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jaco
Posts: 226
Oct 1, 2013 10:04am
Just look at the crappy stunt OSU pulled on the McGee kid pitching for them. Had a full ride, and then between his freshman and sophomore years had his scholarship pulled. That's dirty. If he'd taken a full ride with a MAC school or such it would've never happened. I'd rather have an offer pulled than a scholarship. At least you have time to change course.
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Oct 1, 2013 12:22pm
Schools pull offers all the time. You have to offer a lot more players than you can take since many will go elsewhere. You would be left with scraps otherwise
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Oct 1, 2013 2:00pm
Maybe thats why they pulled his scholarship...they realized he was a MAC player at best, not a BIG 10.jaco;1510484 wrote:Just look at the crappy stunt OSU pulled on the McGee kid pitching for them. Had a full ride, and then between his freshman and sophomore years had his scholarship pulled. That's dirty. If he'd taken a full ride with a MAC school or such it would've never happened. I'd rather have an offer pulled than a scholarship. At least you have time to change course.
Regardless, he will be better off for it.