Hb31187;1322146 wrote:So condescending. No of course a gun isnt gonna jump out of someones holster and shoot me. But with that ease at which you can get a CHL in Ohio there are just plenty of owners who arent exactly the most responsible. And all it takes is 1 slip up with a loaded handgun for something bad to happen. But again its almost comical how defensive you get over this topic lol

WebFire;1322141 wrote:Who said anything about a house?

isadore;1322144 wrote:The Violence Policy Center’s Concealed Carry Killers database documents 356 incidents in 32 states since May 2007. In more than three quarters of the incidents (282) the concealed carry killer has already been convicted (108), committed suicide (167), or was killed in the incident (seven). Of the 64 cases still pending, the vast majority (51) of concealed carry killers have been charged with criminal homicide, five were deemed incompetent to stand trial, and eight incidents are still under investigation. An additional 10 incidents were fatal unintentional shootings involving the gun of the concealed handgun permit holder. Twenty-three of the incidents were mass shootings, resulting in the deaths of 103 victims.
http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

WebFire;1322149 wrote:Why wouldn't I? You are lumping all CHL holders as irresponsible and dangerous. Talk about condescending.

gut;1322160 wrote:Meanwhile, in Chicago this year alone there have been 2378 shootings and 482 homicides...and not even Thanksgiving yet.

WebFire;1322162 wrote:And how many had a permit to carry a concealed weapon?

You have to remember, when it comes to legit gun crime, bad guys will do it no matter what, license or no license.

WebFire;1322153 wrote:So 10 in 5 years across 32 states that were accidental shootings. You should be scared.

isadore;1322170 wrote:your statement was shown to be lie. they purposely killed people. they have participated in mass killings.

gut;1322169 wrote:That was the point, but thanks for spelling it out for certain people on this board. ONE city, in 10.5 months, with 7X the number of shootings vs. CHL in 32 states over 5 years.

WebFire;1322153 wrote:So 10 in 5 years across 32 states that were accidental shootings. You should be scared.

WebFire;1321822 wrote:I don't mean lawful differences. I mean difference of your opinion. Why is it ok to drive onto your property without permission (not trespass, mind you), but not to CONCEAL a handgun (that you would never even know I had)?

Rotinaj;1322238 wrote:So this wouldn't also mean bringing a gun into my home without telling me?

WebFire;1322127 wrote:Actually, on second thought, don't. I'm not going to bother arguing about this. There is no point.

WebFire;1322141 wrote:Who said anything about a house?

WebFire;1322143 wrote:Do you think a gun is going to jump out of someone's holster and shoot you. I present my challenge again. Show me stats that suggest you should worry about CHL carriers.

WebFire;1322149 wrote:Why wouldn't I? You are lumping all CHL holders as irresponsible and dangerous. Talk about condescending.

WebFire;1322151 wrote:Or parking for that matter. LOL. Try to keep up.

WebFire;1322153 wrote:So 10 in 5 years across 32 states that were accidental shootings. You should be scared.

WebFire;1322161 wrote:Ok, let's just agree to disagree. I'll continue carrying (which no one will even know, because it's, you know, concealed), and you can continue being afraid of carriers (even though you can't, because you don't know they are).

WebFire;1322162 wrote:And how many had a permit to carry a concealed weapon?

You have to remember, when it comes to legit gun crime, bad guys will do it no matter what, license or no license.

WebFire;1322178 wrote:Ok, isadore is commenting. I'm done here.

WebFire;1322179 wrote:Gotchya.

James Gatz;1322264 wrote:...
You don't even have the willpower to stop posting when you say you will. You with a gun sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

GoChiefs;1322271 wrote:I guess he could have just created another account and starting posting under that, right, 2kool?

LJ;1321919 wrote:Read my signature for your answer

James Gatz;1322286 wrote:Location: Pickerington

WebFire;1322178 wrote:Ok, isadore is commenting. I'm done here.

isadore;1322721 wrote:because you were caught making a false statement.

WebFire;1322746 wrote:Oh, I'm just dying to know what false statement I made. LOL

WebFire wrote:Not sure how that is relevant. Bad guys don't go get their CHL.

isadore;1322778 wrote:they have killed private citizens, killed police officer, commited mass shootings.
http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

WebFire;1322784 wrote:What I was saying is that bad guys don't get get a license so they can commit crimes. Not surprised you didn't understand that though.