Dover vs West Holmes @ Fawcett Stadium...............Thoughts

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Nov 13, 2012 7:01 PM
Sykotyk;1318520 wrote:Most schools refuse to host a game at the same time that there team is playing. How would they get ANYBODY to run the stadium if everyone wanted to attend the Massillon game in Mansfield?

If Canton McKinley were alive, they wouldn't be hosting on Saturday night either (remember, Fawcett didn't host any games last Saturday either, otherwise West Holmes-Steubenville or Poland-Dover would've probably have been there.

Fawcett has hosted when McKinley is still playing,Timken runs the stadium as Fawcett is also their home
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Nov 13, 2012 7:01pm
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bases_loaded

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Nov 13, 2012 8:12 PM
This is the first year Dover has a QB that can properly run the spread he's equally damaging with his arm and legs. Not your average Dover 5 wide.
Nov 13, 2012 8:12pm
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Nov 13, 2012 9:56 PM
I think Cory Lisowski had numbers similar to Mason as both have rushed for about 1000 yds Lisowski may have had more passing yds his senior year Dover averaged 50 pts a game that year, two very similar athelets/quarterbacks
Nov 13, 2012 9:56pm
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Crimson and Gray Hair

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Nov 13, 2012 10:56 PM
That was quite a season. Cory passed for over 4000 yards, we beat Phila two weeks in a row, then lost the regional final to LV, we just couldn't stop Storm Klein. Lights went out for a while and it was COLD!
Nov 13, 2012 10:56pm
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Nov 13, 2012 11:29 PM
bases_loaded;1318002 wrote:Dovers chances depend on the health of 45
Demetrius Farmer health is great and ready, i live right next to him and talk with him almost everyday. Love their family. don't forget about Vaiala Morris 37, Jason Clinker 62, Brady Foust 57, and Josh Cercone 55.
Nov 13, 2012 11:29pm
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Crimson and Gray Hair

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Nov 13, 2012 11:35 PM
Maybe this week we see Clinker carry the ball!!:D
Nov 13, 2012 11:35pm
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Nov 13, 2012 11:43 PM
you might see Clinker carry, Morris has been getting carries lately :p
Nov 13, 2012 11:43pm
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Nov 13, 2012 11:55 PM
I just hope all those years Coach Iff ran the wing T offense at Perry he would know its weakness. Because the reason for him to come to Dover and coach was because he wanted to run a wide open offense. he didn't like the fact when Perry got down in the 4th Qt. they couldn't come back. Dover ran the wing T years ago. in playoffs turn over killed them every year. a little history
Nov 13, 2012 11:55pm
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Nov 14, 2012 7:19 AM
XMAS43;1319810 wrote:I just hope all those years Coach Iff ran the wing T offense at Perry he would know its weakness. Because the reason for him to come to Dover and coach was because he wanted to run a wide open offense. he didn't like the fact when Perry got down in the 4th Qt. they couldn't come back. Dover ran the wing T years ago. in playoffs turn over killed them every year. a little history

We ran the Wing T till 2003. We stopped running it because we didn't have the size or athletes year in and year out to compete with the waterson, desales, big reds, etc. When you're a public school of our size you only get the athletes to run the wing T correctly every 5-10 years. Even then you're only an injury away from being screwed. This is what happened to the 99 team, probably the most talented team Coach had but injuries to the full back and wing back doomed them.

West Holmes has one of those every 10 years teams. Dover has one of the most balanced teams since Coach Ifft switched to the spread. If Dover wins or ties the turnover battle they'll win.
Nov 14, 2012 7:19am
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Nov 14, 2012 8:50 AM
Good luck Knights! The Red Riders will be rooting for you all the way. Congrats on a great year....keep it up! #45---still hoping the Illini pull the trigger and we can entice you to Champaign.
Nov 14, 2012 8:50am
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Nov 14, 2012 1:36 PM
If Dover gets out to a fast start it could be a long (K)night (clever huh). If the Tornados go into the 4th qtr with, say a 2 TD lead, start the bus! That said, good luck to the Knights from the OCC!
Nov 14, 2012 1:36pm
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Nov 14, 2012 5:48 PM
Knight Nation baby!!

WH must win the TO battle. If they can force a couple picks or fumbles, they win. Also need a few stops on defense, which could be tough. Ready for a great game!
Nov 14, 2012 5:48pm
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Nov 14, 2012 6:13 PM
bases_loaded;1319860 wrote:When you're a public school of our size you only get the athletes to run the wing T correctly every 5-10 years.
Coshocton's program turned around in the early 80's after going to the Wing-T and they have used it ever since. The school certainly has less available talent than Dover I might add. Granted the Redskins don't always produce a playoff level team (this year for example :() but the Wing-T has served Coshocton well for 20 years. The Skins are generally a program expected to produce a winner if not playoff caliber teams year after year.
bases_loaded;1319860 wrote:Even then you're only an injury away from being screwed.
I would highly agree with that. For example, Coshocton was was firing on all cylinders in 2002 (including a rare win against Dover ;)) and looked very good to maybe even taking the Division 4 state championship. But our fullback blew a knee in the Regional final and that was the end of the playoff trail at that point. Killer.
bases_loaded;1319860 wrote:West Holmes has one of those every 10 years teams.
True. Whooda thunk West Holmes would have dominated Steubenville in the playoff's prior to the start of the season? But with that said this year's version of the Knights appear to be capable of doing it again.
bases_loaded;1319860 wrote:Dover has one of the most balanced teams since Coach Ifft switched to the spread. If Dover wins or ties the turnover battle they'll win.
Dover is just Dover. Yet you guys are an enigma to me. You consistently put good talent together year after year but when playoff season hits, it seems like the Tornadoes usually find a way to bow out.

As an ECOL fan I hope Dover does well, but as a Coshocton fan, I wouldn't be upset at all to see the Knights move on.

Best of luck to both teams.
Nov 14, 2012 6:13pm
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Nov 14, 2012 6:49 PM
I misspoke I should've said you only have the athletes to make a playoff run every 5-10 years and by run I mean win a few games. Deception and discipline can't overcome size and speed. We could run the wing T with the best but sometimes the other guys were just better. The spread became an equalizer, plus no lead every seems safe for the opposition.
Nov 14, 2012 6:49pm
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Nov 14, 2012 7:38 PM
Well hell.....Since Dover has this one in the bag....Im just going to save my time and money. No sense(being an outsider) in wasting my time, I mean...send Dover to The Final 4...why even play the game:rolleyes:


Good Luck West Holmes
Nov 14, 2012 7:38pm
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Nov 14, 2012 8:00 PM
Well hell.....Since Dover vs West Holmes promises to be a great contest....I'm just going to spend my time and money. Makes sense(being an insider) enjoying my time, I mean...since Dover has made the Regional finals again and could go to The Final 4...why ever miss the game:rolleyes:


Good Luck Dover
PS - everyone wave to the camera on Sat so 1_beast(sitting at home all alone) will have something he can enjoy too!
Nov 14, 2012 8:00pm
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Nov 14, 2012 8:12 PM
Think I'm attending this one. Respect both programs but rooting for my OCC brethren. Good luck Knights!
Nov 14, 2012 8:12pm
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Nov 14, 2012 8:32 PM
Crimson and Gray Hair;1320429 wrote:Well hell.....Since Dover vs West Holmes promises to be a great contest....I'm just going to spend my time and money. Makes sense(being an insider) enjoying my time, I mean...since Dover has made the Regional finals again and could go to The Final 4...why ever miss the game:rolleyes:


Good Luck Dover
PS - everyone wave to the camera on Sat so 1_beast(sitting at home all alone) will have something he can enjoy too!
LOL change ^^^ that color, its hard on these old eyes

and don't forget to wave...maybe I'll give OC play by play
Nov 14, 2012 8:32pm
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Crimson and Gray Hair

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Nov 14, 2012 8:39 PM
1_beast;1320466 wrote:LOL change ^^^ that color, its hard on these old eyes

and don't forget to wave...maybe I'll give OC play by play
I'll be waving...and hopefully clapping a whole hell of a lot too!!
I hear you on the old eyes - been there, doin' that.
Nov 14, 2012 8:39pm
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Nov 16, 2012 5:01 PM
Good luck this weekend Knights!
Nov 16, 2012 5:01pm
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Nov 16, 2012 7:12 PM
Good luck guys



IT'S TIME!
Nov 16, 2012 7:12pm
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Nov 16, 2012 11:36 PM
RedRider1;1318357 wrote:Odd that we're in round 3, and among PBTS & Fawcett, this will be be the first game either site has hosted.

Guessing the Massillon folks are telling the OHSAA to not consider them for hosting a Saturday game so long as the Tigers are still alive.
this is very true ! long as massillon n they won't have a gm at pbts.
Nov 16, 2012 11:36pm
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Nov 17, 2012 7:56 PM
So glad the Dover fan I am sitting by keeps dropping the n bomb. #classy
Nov 17, 2012 7:56pm
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Nov 17, 2012 9:03 PM
Dover up big 48-21
Nov 17, 2012 9:03pm
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Nov 17, 2012 11:02 PM
Surprised Dover won so big.
Nov 17, 2012 11:02pm