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Nov 23, 2012 3:38 PM
sleeper;1327293 wrote:Did I say black people can't program? No. I said we hired some chick in a desperation move STRICTLY for diversity purposes. Embarrassing.
Why were you in desperation?
Nov 23, 2012 3:38pm
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Nov 23, 2012 4:07 PM
I Wear Pants;1327301 wrote:Why were you in desperation?
They had someone from corporate that was coming down to meet the programming team. There was pressure to make the team look diverse.
Nov 23, 2012 4:07pm
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Nov 23, 2012 7:28 PM
I Wear Pants;1327285 wrote:Implying that community colleges aren't worthwhile?
That's not what I'm implying. But due the size of the community college it is in no way a reflection of the Nation. Kind of like me Harley Davidson post.
Nov 23, 2012 7:28pm
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Nov 23, 2012 11:54 PM
Belly35;1320076 wrote:My phone has been ring off the hook from many of my friends in business asking me what I think is going on.
This is the beginning of a new American Business Economic Cluster
People calling you for business advice probably is a sign of an Economic disaster waiting to happen.
Nov 23, 2012 11:54pm
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Nov 24, 2012 1:12 AM
rmolin73;1327368 wrote:That's not what I'm implying. But due the size of the community college it is in no way a reflection of the Nation. Kind of like me Harley Davidson post.
Ok gotcha, you're definitely correct there. Not a good gauge of the entire country at all.
Nov 24, 2012 1:12am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:13 AM
sleeper;1327318 wrote:They had someone from corporate that was coming down to meet the programming team. There was pressure to make the team look diverse.
Does your company have a policy wherein you should have more diversity than was contained within this programming team? If so why did you not follow those policies until it was so last minute that you had to hire a terrible employee just to satisfy those demands? And if not, then what the hell were you doing?
Nov 24, 2012 1:13am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:15 AM
I Wear Pants;1327499 wrote:Does your company have a policy wherein you should have more diversity than was contained within this programming team? If so why did you not follow those policies until it was so last minute that you had to hire a terrible employee just to satisfy those demands? And if not, then what the hell were you doing?
There's no official policy but it looks bad if you hire a bunch of white people. Christ do you even have a job with a salary? The most incompetent people that I work with are minorities because they are handed everything to them in life and only get jobs/education because of the color of their skin.
Nov 24, 2012 1:15am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:28 AM
The most competent people I know are Asians and Jews.
Nov 24, 2012 1:28am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:29 AM
sleeper;1327500 wrote:There's no official policy but it looks bad if you hire a bunch of white people. Christ do you even have a job with a salary? The most incompetent people that I work with are minorities because they are handed everything to them in life and only get jobs/education because of the color of their skin.
Right, so you're just a racist motherfucker and in a desperation move to look not racist you hired a black woman programmer to maximize on the diversity and since you did it really quickly it turned out poorly. Because, shockingly, a journalism major who doesn't know C++ doesn't make a very good C++ programmer.

If you thought having only white people on that team was a problem why the fuck did you not take the time to find a qualified minority applicant?
Nov 24, 2012 1:29am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:31 AM
I Wear Pants;1327504 wrote:Right, so you're just a racist motherfucker and in a desperation move to look not racist you hired a black woman programmer to maximize on the diversity and since you did it really quickly it turned out poorly. Because, shockingly, a journalism major who doesn't know C++ doesn't make a very good C++ programmer.

If you thought having only white people on that team was a problem why the fuck did you not take the time to find a qualified minority applicant?
I call a spade a spade. There are some very smart minorities; way to make it about race though. :rolleyes:
Nov 24, 2012 1:31am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:38 AM
sleeper;1327505 wrote:I call a spade a spade. There are some very smart minorities; way to make it about race though. :rolleyes:
"The most incompetent people that I work with are minorities because they are handed everything to them in life and only get jobs/education because of the color of their skin."

You made it about race.
Nov 24, 2012 1:38am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:39 AM
I Wear Pants;1327506 wrote:"The most incompetent people that I work with are minorities because they are handed everything to them in life and only get jobs/education because of the color of their skin."

You made it about race.
Well I guess I should have just lied and blamed it on white people. :rolleyes:
Nov 24, 2012 1:39am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:47 AM
sleeper;1327507 wrote:Well I guess I should have just lied and blamed it on white people. :rolleyes:
No, but perhaps you should have either (assuming you were doing the hiring) been an adult and stuck with your team and if/when questioned about the lack of diversity explained that you simply hire the most qualified applicants regardless of race or if you did what to diversify the team, either for outward appearances or to benefit the team, you should have actually bothered hiring a qualified applicant.

Anyone who knowingly hires an employee they know will perform to a standard that is below what they need out of the position is a moron.
Nov 24, 2012 1:47am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:49 AM
I Wear Pants;1327508 wrote:No, but perhaps you should have either (assuming you were doing the hiring) been an adult and stuck with your team and if/when questioned about the lack of diversity explained that you simply hire the most qualified applicants regardless of race or if you did what to diversify the team, either for outward appearances or to benefit the team, you should have actually bothered hiring a qualified applicant.

Anyone who knowingly hires an employee they know will perform to a standard that is below what they need out of the position is a moron.
The most qualified persons happen to be white; but that's racist, we need to hire more black people so we can have diversity. Grow up. :rolleyes:
Nov 24, 2012 1:49am
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Nov 24, 2012 1:59 AM
sleeper;1327509 wrote:The most qualified persons happen to be white; but that's racist, we need to hire more black people so we can have diversity. Grow up. :rolleyes:
If the most qualified applicants actually are white then just make sure you have a good application and hiring process and document everything and you won't have to worry if anyone inquires as to the lack of diversity.

If you're going to hire minorities at least hire qualified ones. Doing anything different is fucking stupid.
Nov 24, 2012 1:59am
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Nov 24, 2012 3:37 AM
rmolin73;1327368 wrote:That's not what I'm implying. But due the size of the community college it is in no way a reflection of the Nation. Kind of like me Harley Davidson post.

Just another 400 of We The People affected.

The beat goes on.

Change we can believe in...
Nov 24, 2012 3:37am
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Nov 24, 2012 10:50 AM
I Wear Pants;1327510 wrote:If the most qualified applicants actually are white then just make sure you have a good application and hiring process and document everything and you won't have to worry if anyone inquires as to the lack of diversity.

If you're going to hire minorities at least hire qualified ones. Doing anything different is fucking stupid.
That's not how it works in the real world. Their called protected classes and in the real world they equal lawsuits if the best candidates happen to have white skin instead of dark skin. Isn't America great?
Nov 24, 2012 10:50am
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Nov 24, 2012 7:52 PM
sleeper;1327581 wrote:That's not how it works in the real world. Their called protected classes and in the real world they equal lawsuits if the best candidates happen to have white skin instead of dark skin. Isn't America great?
*They're

Also, if you bothered/were capable of reading you would have noticed the part about making sure your application and hiring processes are excellent and you document everything. That way you can't lose a lawsuit.
Nov 24, 2012 7:52pm
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Nov 24, 2012 8:11 PM
I Wear Pants;1328103 wrote:*They're

Also, if you bothered/were capable of reading you would have noticed the part about making sure your application and hiring processes are excellent and you document everything. That way you can't lose a lawsuit.
Let me know when you enter the real world. Fucking clueless.
Nov 24, 2012 8:11pm
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Dec 14, 2012 10:02 AM
Any company who has to shut down or layoff because of Obamacare only, is not doing it right.
Dec 14, 2012 10:02am
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Dec 14, 2012 10:23 AM
The plant I work at is laying off too!

For the week of Christmas.
Dec 14, 2012 10:23am
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Dec 14, 2012 3:10 PM
Bigdogg;1342610 wrote:Plenty of jobs available for those who want work here: http://www.job.com/my.job/btsup/us=4359/?gclid=CKnr6NqWmrQCFYYWMgodHGYAag

Even more when belly sells his business to someone who knows how to run it better.
Why would I sell my business. I would just close down take the lose right off, hold the property dump the inventory into the market and walk away. Collect my SS, military retirement, work for cash only, all non-taxable and live on over 80,000 per yer tax free and some of you think I'm stupid....
Dec 14, 2012 3:10pm