rmolin73;1318645 wrote:You would be wrong like Mr. Batshit Crazy himself. In one of our facilities we have over 300 applicants for 75 jobs.

Telling then, so many applicants, so many jobs, and still not hiring.

We are hiring is what I'm saying. Can you not grasp that?

New Jobs

http://motthavenherald.com/2012/10/16/freshdirect-announces-new-jobs/

http://www.wcax.com/story/19822694/revision-military-to-announce-new-jobs

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sitel-announces-100-jobs-las-121500880.html

http://denverncweekly.com/business/2012/10/company-announces-450-new-jobs-in-lincoln-county/

rmolin73;1318665 wrote:We are hiring is what I'm saying. Can you not grasp that?

So with all these jobs out there, we can expect unemployment to come down soon?

WebFire;1318676 wrote:So with all these jobs out there, we can expect unemployment to come down soon?

I wouldn't say soon but I think that the numbers will slowly come down. But that is my opinion. I don't swear that it's fact

rmolin73;1318665 wrote:We are hiring is what I'm saying. Can you not grasp that?

Hiring and actually hiring are two different stories. Hell right now I know a company that needs 100 engineers paying 80-90k but they aren't hiring. Why? Because there aren't enough minorities with an engineering degree to meet their quotas for diversity.

sleeper;1318701 wrote:Hiring and actually hiring are two different stories. Hell right now I know a company that needs 100 engineers paying 80-90k but they aren't hiring. Why? Because there aren't enough minorities with an engineering degree to meet their quotas for diversity.

When I see people in offices being interviewed as well as new hires during their orientations for different departments. I call that hiring. Your last sentence is just you being your small minded self. Because we just hired a several people with engineering degrees. Lol

rmolin73;1318708 wrote:When I see people in offices being interviewed as well as new hires during their orientations for different departments. I call that hiring. Your last sentence is just you being your small minded self. Because we just hired a several people with engineering degrees. Lol

Anecdotal evidence is going to get us nowhere. We are at 7.8% unemployment and have been for years now with the LOWEST labor participation rate in HISTORY.

sleeper;1318717 wrote:Anecdotal evidence is going to get us nowhere. We are at 7.8% unemployment and have been for years now with the LOWEST labor participation rate in HISTORY.

Then you may need to first talk to the OP because he asked to post a Layoff and Hire report. Since someone is posting places that are hiring it becomes anecdotal evidence? Got it.

rmolin73;1318722 wrote:Then you may need to first talk to the OP because he asked to post a Layoff and Hire report. Since someone is posting places that are hiring it becomes anecdotal evidence? Got it.

I don't think you really want to be in the same company as the OP do you? Maybe you do. I'd prefer to stick with the facts and the facts are pretty damning for Obama.

sleeper;1318730 wrote:I don't think you really want to be in the same company as the OP do you? Maybe you do. I'd prefer to stick with the facts and the facts are pretty damning for Obama.

The OP requested that we post a Layoff and Hire report. I'm posting companies that are hiring. You guys have a problem with that I understand. So what you're stating essentially is that what Belly posted are facts and what I posted is not? Got it

Not getting laid off, but I'm next in line for a promotion and it hinges on my company picking up more rigs and because of the election we aren't picking more till '14 at the earliest. Shitty for me but could be worse.

I am still hiring.

rmolin73;1318732 wrote:The OP requested that we post a Layoff and Hire report. I'm posting companies that are hiring. You guys have a problem with that I understand. So what you're stating essentially is that what Belly posted are facts and what I posted is not? Got it

In my mind everything is a fact it only becomes fiction once it's posted

This thread is pretty worthless really. No matter the state of the economy, there will be companies laying off, and there will be companies hiring. No way to gauge the affects on unemployment by a few posters on the OC.

WebFire;1319267 wrote:This thread is pretty worthless really. No matter the state of the economy, there will be companies laying off, and there will be companies hiring. No way to gauge the affects on unemployment by a few posters on the OC.

Pretty much. The "local" unemployment rate doesn't really matter to anyone here, unless they happen to live in the same place as Belly. The federal unemployment numbers are good enough for me. Yeah, it has problems with people dropping out, but as jobs are created people will start coming back into the workforce which means you can't really move the needle that much unless you're actually creating net job gains in excess of population growth.

My phone has been ring off the hook from many of my friends in business asking me what I think is going on.
This is the beginning of a new American Business Economic Cluster Fuck.
Job loss, business closing and financial collapse of Small American Business.
My suggest is hold on as long as possible, cut back, cut personal, cut dead beat customers, create new terms of purchase, get 25% up front money with every PO., shipping rate increase and percentage added on, dump inventory…. buy ammo and guns for the riot protection ….. Four year or less before this Administration will self destruct and the Democratic Party be run out of excuses. Once the Black communities, minorities and the new poor white working class situation teeters on desperation the swell of social discord will be awaken. Wake up America the riot of the 60s will be back.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2012-presidential-election/2012/11/09/obama-reelection-triggers-massive-layoffs-across-america

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/13619-layoffs-begin-after-obama-reelected

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/nov/8/picket-companies-plan-massive-layoffs-obamacare-be/


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fortune-mag-thinks-1000s-of-small-banks-could-close-even-more-companies-reported-to-be-laying-off-workers-or-closing-outlets/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/smithfield-foods-to-begin-layoffs-as-part-of-previously-announced-closure-of-va-meat-plant/2012/11/14/cc02d07a-2e74-11e2-b631-2aad9d9c73ac_story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/11/14/xerox-layoffs/1704365/

http://wcsi.whiterivernews.com/templates/localnews_temp.asp?id=6116&storyno=3

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/betterlife/2012/11/12/murray-energys-layoffs-exemplify-the-economic-dysfunction-we-must-overcome/

rmolin73;1318708 wrote:When I see people in offices being interviewed as well as new hires during their orientations for different departments. I call that hiring. Your last sentence is just you being your small minded self. Because we just hired a several people with engineering degrees. Lol

I can't say if sleeper's lying or not about the 100s of engineers and needing quotas.

However, I can say as an engineer, he is correct about one thing. There are VERY FEW minority engineers in comparison to white males (and of course Asians).

I have worked at 5 different companies in my time as an engineer. In those business units alone (not the whole company, heck one of them was BFGoodrich, a huge company overall) there were easily 150 engineers in those 5 companies.

I am not exaggerating when I tell you that of those 150 engineers only 1 was black, and 2 were female. All 5 companies were in Ohio, 4 of which are in NE Ohio.

I understand, talking to some old professors, that the demographics are slowly becoming more diverse, but it is most certainly still dominated by white male students in BS engineering degree programs.

I am not speculating as to why this exists this way, just stating it as a fact.

Trust me jmog I'm fully aware of the lack of black engineers. Me and sleeper have agreed on that many times it was his quota comment that I was talking about. The demographics are slowly shifting and women are leading that demographic shift.

So in 2016 when your wild and crazy predictions don't happen you have to agree to never post here again Belly. Deal?

I can say with 100% certainty that at my old shop they brought in a whopping 3 new first year associates in '12 (and delayed the start date from mid September to now)....this is down from the mid 20's back in '07. It is the same scenario at most of the other places I know. Total headcount is down about 35% at my old place.

Manhattan Buckeye;1320221 wrote:I can say with 100% certainty that at my old shop they brought in a whopping 3 new first year associates in '12 (and delayed the start date from mid September to now)....this is down from the mid 20's back in '07. It is the same scenario at most of the other places I know. Total headcount is down about 35% at my old place.

So what? Nobody wants "good" jobs like that, they want jobs making Nikes and Iphones. Or at least to hear people bitch about outsourcing you would think those are the only jobs people want or need.

rmolin73;1320100 wrote:So in 2016 when your wild and crazy predictions don't happen you have to agree to never post here again Belly. Deal?

Hey stupid mofo when you suggest a deal and only have one side has consequences that really not any type of negation. However I can understand where democrats get this stupidity mentality ...... So what are you putting on the table. Need to see some skin in the game. Bitch

get thisthat come

rmolin73;1320098 wrote:Trust me jmog I'm fully aware of the lack of black engineers. Me and sleeper have agreed on that many times it was his quota comment that I was talking about. The demographics are slowly shifting and women are leading that demographic shift.

I, again, can't say if sleeper is telling the truth or not. However, you have to know that some companies absolutely have "quotas" (while they won't call them that) when it comes to diversity hiring/interviewing.

Heck, when my company recently was hiring a new engineering manager, they actually interviewed a woman from the accounting department with no engineering background just to say "yup, we interviewed a minority". They could not find a minority engineer that even applied for the job, let alone was qualified.

Belly35;1320300 wrote:Hey stupid mofo when you suggest a deal and only have one side has consequences that really not any type of negation. However I can understand where democrats get this stupidity mentality ...... So what are you putting on the table. Need to see some skin in the game. Bitch

get thisthat come

It took me some time to read your gibberish. Of course I put the same thing on the table. If there is a so called revolution as you claim. I won't post anymore. Deal? Or will you bitch out like Quaker has?