 
                                                                HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 8:18pm
                            
                        
                                .....and so it has begun. 
The Indians have made the first moves of the off season, picking up the $5.7 million option on Ubaldo Jimenez, and declining the options of Hafner and Roberto Hernandez....the pitcher formerly known as Fausto Carmona. While Antonetti didn't rule out either returning at a lower contract, it seems nearly impossible that Pronk will be coming back under any circumstances. (collective sigh of relief).:rolleyes:
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121031&content_id=40131714&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
                        The Indians have made the first moves of the off season, picking up the $5.7 million option on Ubaldo Jimenez, and declining the options of Hafner and Roberto Hernandez....the pitcher formerly known as Fausto Carmona. While Antonetti didn't rule out either returning at a lower contract, it seems nearly impossible that Pronk will be coming back under any circumstances. (collective sigh of relief).:rolleyes:
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121031&content_id=40131714&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 8:43pm
                            
                        
                                Please just use the money on a guy who didn't regress after roiding, and a guy who isn't a mentally weak pussy and implodes after allowing one guy on base with 2 outs.
                            
                         
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 8:46pm
                            
                        
                                Looks like we will give youkilis a look for first base. I would really like to trade for Dan haren
                            
                         
                                                                Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 9:11pm
                            
                        That wont happen. You want to know why? Ill tell you...cause Ive heard of both those players...Crimson streak;1309454 wrote:Looks like we will give youkilis a look for first base. I would really like to trade for Dan haren
 
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 9:26pm
                            
                        
                                Haha I think we actually got a great shot at youkilis simply because of Francona.
                            
                         
                                                                shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Oct 31, 2012 10:34pm
                            
                        
                                tim lincecum (sp?) from the giants is a free agent. if he keeps pitching like he did in the post season id love him here. pronk, carmona and sizemore can s my d as far as im concerned. fucking scrubs.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 1:15am
                            
                        
                                Payrolls....
Final four
Yanks highest
Tigers 5th
Cardinals 8th
Giants 9th
Tribe 23rd or so
These rankings include all teams from both leagues.
Any questions?
PS..I tip my cap to the Reds management for having a payroll of only 83 million and fielding a damn good team (tribe at 78 million).
The resigning of Ubaldo will be the mystery of the year.
                        Final four
Yanks highest
Tigers 5th
Cardinals 8th
Giants 9th
Tribe 23rd or so
These rankings include all teams from both leagues.
Any questions?
PS..I tip my cap to the Reds management for having a payroll of only 83 million and fielding a damn good team (tribe at 78 million).
The resigning of Ubaldo will be the mystery of the year.
 
                                                                wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 6:55am
                            
                        
                                We picked up the option of Ubaldo which is necessary for our championship run.  
This team will never do anything with the Dolans owning things and retards running things. Shapiro and Antonetti are the laughing stock of the mlb...and they can go fuck themselves...although, they would probably find a way of screwing that up.
                        This team will never do anything with the Dolans owning things and retards running things. Shapiro and Antonetti are the laughing stock of the mlb...and they can go fuck themselves...although, they would probably find a way of screwing that up.
 
                                                                HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 1:48pm
                            
                        
                                ^^^^It's a new year, and I'm going to give them a chance before I start raggin' on them for next year. If history repeats itself, there will be plenty of time for that later.  As far as Ubaldo goes...I can't see why they would not pick up his option. Yeah, trading for him was shit... but you might as well let it play out at this point.. He wasn't the worst pitcher that we put out there...until we got something better, might as well keep him.
                            
                         
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 2:14pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah, I think most of Ubaldo's problems are between the ears . That, and he can't repeat his delivery.  If he would ever get his mechanics in order and his head together, he may be a descent pitcher. But, I won't hold my breath. I still think it was a terrible trade.
                            
                         
                                                                Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 2:36pm
                            
                        When I saw that the Angels were looking to deal Haren, the first thing I thought was that he'd do wonders for the Pirates starting rotation.Crimson streak;1309454 wrote:Looks like we will give youkilis a look for first base. I would really like to trade for Dan haren
And then, I laughed, shook my head and decided I'd smoked up enough for one night if I was thinking crazy talk like that.
 
                                                                royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 4:22pm
                            
                        
                                A couple of good prospects doing well in Arizona.
http://tribevibe.mlblogs.com/2012/11/01/indians-prospects-taking-advantage-of-extended-season-in-arizona-fall-league-and-elsewhere/
                        http://tribevibe.mlblogs.com/2012/11/01/indians-prospects-taking-advantage-of-extended-season-in-arizona-fall-league-and-elsewhere/
 
                                                                ts1227
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 7:27pm
                            
                        If they trade for a Dan Haren playing card, does that count?Crimson streak;1309454 wrote:Looks like we will give youkilis a look for first base. I would really like to trade for Dan haren
 
                                                                shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 8:24pm
                            
                        
                                i was watching bruce dreenan today and he has a big hard on for trading choo and asdrubal from james shields to be our number 1. food for thought?
                            
                         
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 8:34pm
                            
                        Choo yes, Asdrubal absolutely not.shook_17;1310209 wrote:i was watching bruce dreenan today and he has a big hard on for trading choo and asdrubal from james shields to be our number 1. food for thought?
 
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 8:38pm
                            
                        shook_17;1310209 wrote:i was watching bruce dreenan today and he has a big hard on for trading choo and asdrubal from james shields to be our number 1. food for thought?
That's just fucking retarded. I don't think I would trade either for shields
 
                                                                jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 8:43pm
                            
                        
                                Would not give up Asdrubal, but Choo + another piece for Shields would be a good move for them. You need pitching
                            
                         
                                                                shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:02pm
                            
                        lol i thought the same thing. i can see choo just for the simple fact that he won't be resigning here. borris will not let it happen. need to get something for him.Crimson streak;1310225 wrote:That's just ****ing retarded. I don't think I would trade either for shields
 
                                                                Classyposter58
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:11pm
                            
                        :laugh: Funny stuff. Sounds like Detroit is very interested in Hamilton and if that happens they better win 150 games. Seriously though Jackson-Hamilton-Cabrera-Fielder-Martinez? I will be purchasing season tickets if that happensLaley23;1309482 wrote:That wont happen. You want to know why? Ill tell you...cause Ive heard of both those players...
 
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:16pm
                            
                        Classyposter58;1310264 wrote::laugh: Funny stuff. Sounds like Detroit is very interested in Hamilton and if that happens they better win 150 games. Seriously though Jackson-Hamilton-Cabrera-Fielder-Martinez? I will be purchasing season tickets if that happens
Still doesn't solve there problems. The fact that they don't have the pitching to win it all. Great pitching beats great hitting all the time. As you can see the giants swept the tigers
                                        
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                                                                sportswizuhrd
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:32pm
                            
                        Link?Classyposter58;1310264 wrote::laugh: Funny stuff. Sounds like Detroit is very interested in Hamilton and if that happens they better win 150 games. Seriously though Jackson-Hamilton-Cabrera-Fielder-Martinez? I will be purchasing season tickets if that happens
 
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:34pm
                            
                        sportswizuhrd;1310289 wrote:Link?
That and no one gives a fuck about Detroit. This is a Cleveland thread
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 9:49pm
                            
                        Good point. For a sec I thought I accidentally clicked on the mlb random chatter thread. Classyposter's outlandish smug predictions always end up biting him in the ass lol.Crimson streak;1310293 wrote:That and no one gives a fuck about Detroit. This is a Cleveland thread
 
                                                                shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Nov 1, 2012 10:06pm
                            
                        
                                yeah fuck the tigers. get out of our thread
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Nov 2, 2012 11:56am
                            
                        
                                I've banned the Tribe until the Dolan's die or sell but I thought I'd share with those who care...
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=20&post_id=7451
                        http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=20&post_id=7451