WebFire;1403906 wrote:Correct. So how can they be #6 in the country?

You're right. Drop them to 15

Midstate01;1403944 wrote:You're right. Drop them to 15

There you go.

WebFire;1403906 wrote:Correct. So how can they be #6 in the country?

Perhaps because the top 6 teams are all in the B1G? I mean does anyone actually think Duke, Gonzaga, Kansas, or Miami would even be ranked if they played in a tough conference like the B1G? I mean sure they'd beat up on Northwestern, Penn State, and Nebraska but what about the other 9 tournament quality teams would they have a snowballs chance in hell to win on a nightly basis?

sleeper;1403952 wrote:Perhaps because the top 6 teams are all in the B1G? I mean does anyone actually think Duke, Gonzaga, Kansas, or Miami would even be ranked if they played in a tough conference like the B1G? I mean sure they'd beat up on Northwestern, Penn State, and Nebraska but what about the other 9 tournament quality teams would they have a snowballs chance in hell to win on a nightly basis?

Kansas would run a train on the B1G, just like they did at OSU.

SportsAndLady;1403962 wrote:Kansas would run a train on the B1G, just like they did at OSU.

Sleeper is dumb but so is saying kansas would run a train on the bigten.

Kansas lost to msu.
Also lost to tcu.
Kansas would be in the mix at the top no doubt. But no way theyd be a guaranteed lock to win the league

Midstate01;1403967 wrote:Sleeper is dumb but so is saying kansas would run a train on the bigten.

Kansas lost to msu.
Also lost to tcu.
Kansas would be in the mix at the top no doubt. But no way theyd be a guaranteed lock to win the league

I almost responded but then I realized who and what S&L was responding to.

FatHobbit;1403977 wrote:I almost responded but then I realized who and what S&L was responding to.

I just wanted to argue. Been that kind of morning

I was kidding midstate lol

SportsAndLady;1404049 wrote:I was kidding midstate lol

Bastard

SportsAndLady;1404049 wrote:I was kidding midstate lol

I got that one....would love KU in the B1G....at least for basketball.

All B1G teams:

FIRST TEAM
VICTOR OLADIPO, INDIANA
Cody Zeller, Indiana
TREY BURKE, MICHIGAN
Tim Hardaway Jr., Michigan
Deshaun Thomas, Ohio State

SECOND TEAM
Keith Appling, Michigan State
Gary Harris, Michigan State
Adreian Payne, Michigan State
Aaron Craft, Ohio State
Jared Berggren, Wisconsin

THIRD TEAM*
Brandon Paul, Illinois
D.J. Richardson, Illinois
Christian Watford, Indiana
Roy Devyn Marble, Iowa
Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota
Terone Johnson, Purdue

*Additional honorees due to a tie

I would have had Payne on team #1 rather than Hardaway or Thomas.

bo ryan, COY.

wut :huh:

sleeper;1404215 wrote:I would have had Payne on team #1 rather than Hardaway or Thomas.

gorocks99;1404214 wrote:All B1G teams:

FIRST TEAM
VICTOR OLADIPO, INDIANA
Cody Zeller, Indiana
TREY BURKE, MICHIGAN
Tim Hardaway Jr., Michigan
Deshaun Thomas, Ohio State

SECOND TEAM
Keith Appling, Michigan State
Gary Harris, Michigan State
Adreian Payne, Michigan State
Aaron Craft, Ohio State
Jared Berggren, Wisconsin

THIRD TEAM*
Brandon Paul, Illinois
D.J. Richardson, Illinois
Christian Watford, Indiana
Roy Devyn Marble, Iowa
Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota
Terone Johnson, Purdue

*Additional honorees due to a tie

Izzo is probably pissed.

Bo Ryan COY is a joke. Crean, Matta or even McCaffery imo deserved it before him. Heck even Izzo maybe.

vball10set;1404225 wrote:

I don't think Thomas is all that great. He scores a lot because he shoots a lot; he also misses a lot.

Prescott;1403775 wrote:Lets be fair to Tom. Maybe, he and his brothers-in-law have an yearly contest to claim a "Jackass of the Year" award. Jim was ahead after the Super Bowl, but I think this puts Crean in the lead.

I lol'd

WebFire;1403856 wrote:Crean should have thanked Meyer for allowing him the opportunity for the job, if he feels Meyer had involvement during the Sampson years.

I lol'd

Midstate01;1403864 wrote:Only a rumor. No video of that.

True. But lets not be naive. Something obviously happened before that.

ytownfootball;1403871 wrote:Crean...decent coach? Yeah probably.

Dickhead?....certainly

This is very true. Id say hes above average, though I still dont know what he is thinking half the time haha.

He is absolutely a prick when he doesnt like you. He holds grudges like no one else, ever lol. That said, I love it. After Sampson and Davis were buddy buddy with everyone, its nice to see a dick in charge again and leading the program in the right way.

Im only defending him here because I think Id do the same thing to that regime when I saw them. I for sure wouldnt do it in public though. But of all the things you can pick on Crean for (whether it be being weird, or a dick or pacing or anything) I think this is overblown and not that big a deal.

Laley23;1404234 wrote:I lol'd



I lol'd



True. But lets not be naive. Something obviously happened before that.



This is very true. Id say hes above average, though I still dont know what he is thinking half the time haha.

He is absolutely a prick when he doesnt like you. He holds grudges like no one else, ever lol. That said, I love it. After Sampson and Davis were buddy buddy with everyone, its nice to see a **** in charge again and leading the program in the right way.

Im only defending him here because I think Id do the same thing to that regime when I saw them. I for sure wouldnt do it in public though. But of all the things you can pick on Crean for (whether it be being weird, or a **** or pacing or anything) I think this is overblown and not that big a deal.

I agree. I would rather have his demeanor then the african american version of butthead and calvin sampsonite. Just wish he would be a little less whiney.

With that said....Crean has brought this program back. I admit i was a little embarrased that this was the first time in 20 yrs in winning the outright title. Many of us remember the heydays of IU which ended toward the end of BK's reign. TC has set this program up to be successful for a very long time. He owes that alow to Zeller to be honest with ya. Cody very easily could have, and who would have blamed him, went some place else.

Is Burke really worthy of MVP after being instrumental in the 5 pt / 52 sec. give-away choke job on Sunday? Pure scUM punk thugger in my book.

Tiernan;1404250 wrote:Is Burke really worthy of MVP after being instrumental in the 5 pt / 52 sec. give-away choke job on Sunday? Pure scUM punk thugger in my book.

With Indiana winning the B1G, it probably should have gone to one of their players (specifically Oladipo)... especially since UM lost it at the end in a choke job to Indiana AND UM is the only upper tier B1G school to lose to PSU (also, how does UM get to 1st teamers?)

MVP should have gone to Victor. Best player in CBB.

Craft should have won DPOY though. What a joke. :thumbdown:

sleeper;1404283 wrote:Craft should have won DPOY though. What a joke. :thumbdown:

Agreed, but I feel like Oladipo got DPOY votes as a consolation for not getting POY votes.

sleeper;1404281 wrote:MVP should have gone to Victor. Best player in CBB.

sleeper;1404283 wrote:Craft should have won DPOY though. What a joke. :thumbdown:

Fly4Fun;1404286 wrote:Agreed, but I feel like Oladipo got DPOY votes as a consolation for not getting POY votes.

While Burke winning POY and Oladipo DPOY is in no way a travesty as both are more than worthy of the selection, I do think it should have been Oladipo POY and Craft DPOY. Oladipo put up pretty great numbers for as little as he was utilized specifically on that team. Not saying Burke is a chucker, but imagine if Oladipo shot that often. His numbers, imo, wouldve been better than Burkes in every aspect but AST.

What made Oladipo so unreal was that he never took a bad shot and didnt force it. Shooting over 60% from the field fromt he wing position is incredible. Nabbing about 6-7 rebounds a game at 6'5 is just effort and determination and guarding 3-4 players/positions a night and leading the league in steals is also tremendous. Overall, no one in college ball is like him and Im not sure that doesnt make him POY in the B1G.