
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 3, 2013 10:05pm
How's that not good??

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 3, 2013 10:08pm
Colorado got completely screwed. there was a clear freeze frame with .1 left and the ball out of his hands

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2013 10:09pm
I didn't see that. Looked like fingertips at 0.1. The first frame with the ball clearly out the clock was at 0.0.Hb31187;1357005 wrote:Colorado got completely screwed. there was a clear freeze frame with .1 left and the ball out of his hands

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2013 10:10pm
There was a shot from behind him that clearly showed ball out of his hand with .1 on the clockMulva;1357007 wrote:I didn't see that. Looked like fingertips at 0.1. The first frame with the ball clearly out the clock was at 0.0.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2013 10:17pm
Just now seeing the shot.
That's a good bucket.
That's a good bucket.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 3, 2013 10:18pm
yes,that's the angle I'm referring to. if this wasn't IN. zona , itd be over withSportsAndLady;1357009 wrote:There was a shot from behind him that clearly showed ball out of his hand with .1 on the clock

wildcats20
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Jan 3, 2013 10:18pm

Game, set and match.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 3, 2013 10:21pm
wildcats20;1357016 wrote:
Game, set and match.
The only problem with that picture is the red around the backboard. I saw it live and thought it was good though. I don't know why they kept showing the behind the player relay unless that is the only view the refs had.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2013 10:22pm
bases_loaded;1357018 wrote:The only problem with that picture is the red around the backboard. I saw it live and thought it was good though. I don't know why they kept showing the behind the player relay unless that is the only view the refs had.
They go by the clock and then the lights.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 3, 2013 10:23pm
The clock on the backboard or the tv? On top of the backboard it was 0.0 before the one on TV.

wildcats20
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Jan 3, 2013 10:23pm
Another view


Mulva
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Jan 3, 2013 10:24pm
ESPN clock was behind the basket clock.wildcats20;1357016 wrote:
Game, set and match.
http://deadspin.com/5973038/colorado-hits-buzzer+beater-to-upset-third+ranked-arizona-referees-wave-it-off-for-no-reason?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Great view at the :59-1:00 mark. It isn't clearly off the fingertips until the clock is all 0s.

wildcats20
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Jan 3, 2013 10:31pm


wildcats20
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Jan 3, 2013 10:33pm
There is another picture that shows the clock above the back board at triple 0's and the ball just barely out of his hand also.


reclegend22
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Jan 3, 2013 10:37pm
Whether the shot was in time or not, the McKale Center is the absolute worst place any team could play in America. The home court "advantage" in Tucson is beyond anything you'll find anywhere else, including Cameron. During the days when Lute was still roaming the sidelines, especially in the '80s and '90s, you go to Tucson, you gonna lose.
Nice to see things haven't changed.
Nice to see things haven't changed.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2013 10:38pm
It doesn't matter if it's out of his hands at triple 0, though. It needs to be out before then. I don't think the call should have been reversed either way. You just can't tell from the video.

reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Jan 3, 2013 10:39pm
Good pictures, wildcats. Point proven. As a Duke fan, I can admit that Duke is gets more than its fair share of calls in Cameron. But the officiating at Arizona is notorious for jobbing visitors.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2013 10:39pm
So you just want to ignore the picture of it at 00.1 with the ball OUT OF HIS HANDS??Mulva;1357037 wrote:It doesn't matter if it's out of his hands at triple 0, though. It needs to be out before then. I don't think the call should have been reversed either way. You just can't tell from the video.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 3, 2013 10:46pm
ESPN doesnt have their own clock. They are typically getting a hard line to their timer which is synced exactly, have a camera shooting the scoreboard and cropped (as in the pictures above), or they are tying in directly to the scoreboard feed which gives them the time exactly.bases_loaded;1357020 wrote:The clock on the backboard or the tv? On top of the backboard it was 0.0 before the one on TV.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2013 10:47pm
I was going to say something similar, but wasn't sure if it was still true. I knew they used to use a still shot of the scoreboard clock.Laley23;1357058 wrote:ESPN doesnt have their own clock. They are typically getting a hard line to their timer which is synced exactly, have a camera shooting the scoreboard and cropped (as in the pictures above), or they are tying in directly to the scoreboard feed which gives them the time exactly.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2013 10:48pm
Are you talking about the one with the motion blur where you can't tell anything?wildcats20;1357041 wrote:So you just want to ignore the picture of it at 00.1 with the ball OUT OF HIS HANDS??

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 3, 2013 10:49pm
Mulva;1357065 wrote:Are you talking about the one with the motion blur where you can't tell anything?
Ball is clearly out of his hand with .1 on the clock above the backboard.wildcats20;1357028 wrote:

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 3, 2013 10:51pm
There's nothing clear about that picture at all. You can't see his fingers, but you can see his fingertips huh? We're gonna have to agree to disagree.wildcats20;1357067 wrote:Ball is clearly out of his hand with .1 on the clock above the backboard.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2013 10:53pm
Lol that is not clear wildcats. I honestly think it was an exact match (0.00 on the clock and ball released). Insane

Midstate01
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Jan 3, 2013 10:56pm
There's no way there's enough there to overturn the orginal call that it was good.