Cleveland Cavaliers 2012-13

Home Archive Pro Sports Cleveland Cavaliers 2012-13
Mulva's avatar

Mulva

Senior Member

13,650 posts
Feb 6, 2013 8:51 PM
KR1245;1383932 wrote:The Bobcats are awful, I know that the Cavs are only 3 games better in the win column but it seems like these teams are miles apart
I have no idea how Charlotte started so well. It was like the Cavs the first year without LeBron, except the Bobcats are way worse than that team was.

It's crazy that a 5 team division could include possibly the 3 worst in the NBA.
Feb 6, 2013 8:51pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 6, 2013 8:58 PM
Mulva;1383939 wrote:I have no idea how Charlotte started so well. It was like the Cavs the first year without LeBron, except the Bobcats are way worse than that team was.

It's crazy that a 5 team division could include possibly the 3 worst in the NBA.
Charlotte is terrible. They are in a much worse position than the Cavs.
Feb 6, 2013 8:58pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 6, 2013 9:00 PM
Also Grant is the best GM in the league. I don't care about any other GM, the guy gets it done.
Feb 6, 2013 9:00pm
wildcats20's avatar

wildcats20

In ROY I Trust!!

27,794 posts
Feb 6, 2013 9:32 PM
sleeper;1383946 wrote:Charlotte is terrible. They are in a much worse position than the Cavs.

I honestly can't think of a team that has ever been in this bad of a position. The Bobcats are so bad. And it's not just the players and team, the whole damn organization needs to be blown up.
Feb 6, 2013 9:32pm
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Feb 6, 2013 10:03 PM
sleeper;1383950 wrote:Also Grant is the best GM in the league. I don't care about any other GM, the guy gets it done.
Grant is awesome..not the best yet, but he's made all the right moves.
Feb 6, 2013 10:03pm
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Feb 6, 2013 10:14 PM
SportsAndLady;1384030 wrote:Grant is awesome..not the best yet, but he's made all the right moves.
Yeah, if this team explodes and becomes contenders year in and year out, then label him as the best. As of right now, he is doing well, but there are still a lot of "ifs" that need to come together.
Feb 6, 2013 10:14pm
F

Footwedge

Senior Member

9,265 posts
Feb 6, 2013 11:37 PM
Pick6;1380472 wrote:Is averaging more points,assists, and better shooting % off the bench than Jamal Crawford and JR Smith pathetic? (That stat is a few weeks old, but the fact that he was playing at that level is impressive). Waiters has potential to be great if he can develop consistency.
He had a rare good game tonight. I grade him out as a D player for the season. I don't give a shit about Crawford or JR Smith either.
Feb 6, 2013 11:37pm
CLEconomically Speaking's avatar

CLEconomically Speaking

Perplexed by Airplanes

401 posts
Feb 7, 2013 12:03 AM
Cavs need to ink this kid...

[video=youtube;qmMbm78sEB4][/video]
Feb 7, 2013 12:03am
Rotinaj's avatar

Rotinaj

Senior Member

7,699 posts
Feb 7, 2013 6:58 AM
Footwedge;1384123 wrote:He had a rare good game tonight. I grade him out as a D player for the season. I don't give a shit about Crawford or JR Smith either.
Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't even watched a single game this season.
Feb 7, 2013 6:58am
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 7, 2013 7:34 AM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384132 wrote:Cavs need to ink this kid...
The first law of the NBA: The more white people you have on your team, your odds of having a bad time approach 1.

This kid needs to go back in time and get a black father.
Feb 7, 2013 7:34am
F

Footwedge

Senior Member

9,265 posts
Feb 7, 2013 12:28 PM
Rotinaj;1384160 wrote:Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't even watched a single game this season.
I have watched portions of maybe 12 games this year. I couldn't stand the lack of effort on the defensive side and I couldn't stand Waiters' play.

I do refer to the Cavs stat line and see that Waiters is every bit as bad as what he looked like live.

As for the GM making all the right moves...I actually agree with LikeThat. Get a grip people. This team blows. Time will tell if the GM did the right things.
Feb 7, 2013 12:28pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 7, 2013 12:34 PM
like_that;1384046 wrote:Yeah, if this team explodes and becomes contenders year in and year out, then label him as the best. As of right now, he is doing well, but there are still a lot of "ifs" that need to come together.
The biggest flaw of this team is inexperience. This core is solid and if we add a strong wing in this next year's draft class we will be set for years. Grant has basically hoodwinked teams out of valuable assets for pieces we don't give a flying F about. I mean who's better?
Feb 7, 2013 12:34pm
hangonsloopy's avatar

hangonsloopy

Senior Member

1,291 posts
Feb 7, 2013 3:37 PM
Footwedge;1384511 wrote:I have watched portions of maybe 12 games this year. I couldn't stand the lack of effort on the defensive side and I couldn't stand Waiters' play.

I do refer to the Cavs stat line and see that Waiters is every bit as bad as what he looked like live.

As for the GM making all the right moves...I actually agree with LikeThat. Get a grip people. This team blows. Time will tell if the GM did the right things.

You just admitted you haven't watched an entire game this year but you say they blow? Anyone that pays attention and watches them can see they have drastically improved overall, and IMO are starting to turn the corner. Last night they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Crush a horrible team and never let up.
Feb 7, 2013 3:37pm
Heretic's avatar

Heretic

Son of the Sun

18,820 posts
Feb 7, 2013 3:52 PM
hangonsloopy;1384638 wrote:You just admitted you haven't watched an entire game this year but you say they blow? Anyone that pays attention and watches them can see they have drastically improved overall, and IMO are starting to turn the corner. Last night they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Crush a horrible team and never let up.
And if you refer to stat lines and the like, you may notice in the standings that a team that is currently 15-34 overall...is 6-4 in their last 10 games. The sort of thing that a rational person takes under consideration when pointing out how good/sucky a team is at any given point in time.
Feb 7, 2013 3:52pm
F

Footwedge

Senior Member

9,265 posts
Feb 7, 2013 7:00 PM
Heretic;1384647 wrote:And if you refer to stat lines and the like, you may notice in the standings that a team that is currently 15-34 overall...is 6-4 in their last 10 games. The sort of thing that a rational person takes under consideration when pointing out how good/sucky a team is at any given point in time.
I'll concede this...the Cavs are much better after pulling in Speights and his buds from Memphis. Before that trade, they were one of the 3 worst teams in basketball.

I have watched more since the trade. The Cavs biggest weakness besides overall team defense is their bigs. Speights....and the improvement of Thompson lately (happy now?) has been nice to see.

I'm not saying this team isn't getting better, but they are 500 at best next year. If they get to that level, time to bring back LeBron and one of his buddies and we will once again have the best team in the NBA.
Feb 7, 2013 7:00pm
Pick6's avatar

Pick6

A USA American

14,946 posts
Feb 7, 2013 9:45 PM
Footwedge;1384751 wrote:I'll concede this...the Cavs are much better after pulling in Speights and his buds from Memphis. Before that trade, they were one of the 3 worst teams in basketball.

I have watched more since the trade. The Cavs biggest weakness besides overall team defense is their bigs. Speights....and the improvement of Thompson lately (happy now?) has been nice to see.

I'm not saying this team isn't getting better, but they are 500 at best next year. If they get to that level, time to bring back LeBron and one of his buddies and we will once again have the best team in the NBA.
lately?
Feb 7, 2013 9:45pm
Rotinaj's avatar

Rotinaj

Senior Member

7,699 posts
Feb 7, 2013 10:03 PM
Pick6;1384836 wrote:lately?
He sucks!!!!!!!!!!! Need to cut him and waiters ASAP. Walton and Casspi need more minutes.
Feb 7, 2013 10:03pm
F

Footwedge

Senior Member

9,265 posts
Feb 7, 2013 11:59 PM
Pick6;1384836 wrote:lately?
Yes lately.
Feb 7, 2013 11:59pm
hoops23's avatar

hoops23

Senior Member

15,696 posts
Feb 8, 2013 12:36 AM
Footwedge;1384919 wrote:Yes lately.
Thompson has been tearing it up ever since Andy went down. It's obvious they don't gel on the court together.
Feb 8, 2013 12:36am
Commander of Awesome's avatar

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

23,151 posts
Feb 8, 2013 6:58 AM
Loving that TT is keeping up the production. I was skeptical that he was pulling a JJ Hickson, glad to see he's not.
Feb 8, 2013 6:58am
mucalum49's avatar

mucalum49

Senior Member

1,639 posts
Feb 8, 2013 7:00 AM
hoops23;1384929 wrote:Thompson has been tearing it up ever since Andy went down. It's obvious they don't gel on the court together.
Which is why I am pulling for the Cavs to take a look at Isaiah Austin in the draft (maybe with the hopefully Lakers pick?). On offense Austin is the anti-AV with three point range. This would allow Tristan to be able to take his man off the drive without the other big cutting the basket, drawing help defense. Outside of his shot he is a very athletic 7-footer and by all accounts a good shot blocker. I think TT and Austin's styles would compliment one another.

I do think Speights does a lot of similar things, but with Austin we can continue drafting and developing our core as opposed to spending in free agency.
Feb 8, 2013 7:00am
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Feb 8, 2013 8:41 AM
mucalum49;1384957 wrote:Which is why I am pulling for the Cavs to take a look at Isaiah Austin in the draft (maybe with the hopefully Lakers pick?). On offense Austin is the anti-AV with three point range. This would allow Tristan to be able to take his man off the drive without the other big cutting the basket, drawing help defense. Outside of his shot he is a very athletic 7-footer and by all accounts a good shot blocker. I think TT and Austin's styles would compliment one another.

I do think Speights does a lot of similar things, but with Austin we can continue drafting and developing our core as opposed to spending in free agency.
I like Austin too...just don't flick his legs, or they will snap in half.
Feb 8, 2013 8:41am
mucalum49's avatar

mucalum49

Senior Member

1,639 posts
Feb 8, 2013 9:02 AM
SportsAndLady;1385004 wrote:I like Austin too...just don't flick his legs, or they will snap in half.
I don't think he looks much smaller than Anthony Davis did last year at UK. Hopefully Austin has a frame to be able to add 10-15 pounds without losing much athleticism.
Feb 8, 2013 9:02am
SportsAndLady's avatar

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

35,632 posts
Feb 8, 2013 9:11 AM
mucalum49;1385018 wrote:I don't think he looks much smaller than Anthony Davis did last year at UK. Hopefully Austin has a frame to be able to add 10-15 pounds without losing much athleticism.

I wasn't being 100% serious lol I just always comment on how fucking skinny his legs are for being 7 feet.
Feb 8, 2013 9:11am
Fly4Fun's avatar

Fly4Fun

Senior Member

7,730 posts
Feb 8, 2013 1:17 PM


Kind of looks like a baby giraffe trying to learn how to walk.
Feb 8, 2013 1:17pm