I'll let you know when ESPN turns into a Michigan site there bud.

Keep failing.

karen lotz;1280435 wrote:NBCSportsPR

karen lotz;1280435 wrote: Notre Dame-Michigan did 4.0 overnight on NBC last night, besting all college games yesterday & up 54% vs last yrs ND-USC primetime gm on NBC

karen lotz;1280435 wrote:I'm guessing you read that on a Michigan site. Lol at Michigan State (or Purdue for that matter, they are a B1G team) being a gimme. As for how it was handled, ND had to notify Michigan before the game or they contractually would have had to play another game in the series. It wasn't any more shady than the other times when Michigan backed out of the series.

I'd also like to see the numbers on the highest rated or most viewed rivalries. Michigan seems to think they are everyone's main rival, but they aren't.

There's one example, and YOU said it.

Also,

Notre Dame vs. Purdue- Notre Dame is up 55-26-2

Notre Dame vs. Michigan State- Notre Dame is up 46-32-1

Notre Dame vs. Michigan- Michigan is up 23-16-1


This is the ONLY rivalry Notre Dame DOESN'T have a series lead in. There's the numbers, formulate an opinion.

bigkahuna;1280470 wrote:I'll let you know when ESPN turns into a Michigan site there bud.

Keep failing.

You're getting info from ESPN comments? Ha ha ha.

And then backing them up with numbers and comments YOU said.

You're right though, EVERYONE Michigan-Notre Dame-EVERYONE has a problem with them ending the series.

I didn't mean the records of the rivalries, I mis read what you said about the game this year. Thought you were saying Michigan is the most watched rivalry annually with ND. My apologies for misunderstanding.

bigkahuna;1280484 wrote:And then backing them up with numbers and comments YOU said.

You're right though, EVERYONE Michigan-Notre Dame-EVERYONE has a problem with them ending the series.

I have no clue what this means

The ratings were high mostly because of how notre dame played against mich st and there undefeated. If they would have lost to mich st the ratings would have been right around USC last year

bigkahuna;1280473 wrote:


There's one example, and YOU said it.

Also,

Notre Dame vs. Purdue- Notre Dame is up 55-26-2

Notre Dame vs. Michigan State- Notre Dame is up 46-32-1

Notre Dame vs. Michigan- Michigan is up 23-16-1


This is the ONLY rivalry Notre Dame DOESN'T have a series lead in. There's the numbers, formulate an opinion.

I really don't think Michigan's lead in the series has anything to do with ND exercising their out in the contract. JMO

killer_ewok;1280500 wrote:I really don't think Michigan's lead in the series has anything to do with ND exercising their out in the contract. JMO

i don't either. probably that the other two have been contested twice as much

karen lotz;1280435 wrote:Michigan seems to think they are everyone's main rival, but they aren't.

C'mon dude, get real. If you did a national poll of which game people consider the better/bigger rivalry, and which they'd rather watch, ND/Michigan would win hands down. Like anyone gives a fuck about Purdue.

WebFire;1280523 wrote:C'mon dude, get real. If you did a national poll of which game people consider the better/bigger rivalry, and which they'd rather watch, ND/Michigan would win hands down. Like anyone gives a fuck about Purdue.

Michigan is a slight step up from Boston College on Notre Dame's list of rivalries. I don't think ND is going to make any decisions on future scheduling of Michigan off of a national poll of people.

Also, I must have missed it when Swarbrick/ND said they were never going to play Michigan again. I'm not sure why everyone is just jumping to that conclusion.


You also assume that a lot of people give a fuck about Michigan.

karen lotz;1280493 wrote:I didn't mean the records of the rivalries, I mis read what you said about the game this year. Thought you were saying Michigan is the most watched rivalry annually with ND. My apologies for misunderstanding.

Fair enough.

karen lotz;1280495 wrote:I have no clue what this means

You said I was butt hurt. Am I salty about the loss? Sure. However, EVERYONE; Michigan fans, Notre Dame fans, CFB bans don't really like the fact that this rivalry is ending. I LOVED this rivalry.

killer_ewok;1280500 wrote:I really don't think Michigan's lead in the series has anything to do with ND exercising their out in the contract. JMO

dazedconfused;1280518 wrote:i don't either. probably that the other two have been contested twice as much

You're probably right, but which game is bigger nationally? MSU, Purdue, or Michigan?

Purdue is in state, MSU is OLD. However, of the 3 Michigan would be considered the hardest. It's smart. With USC,Stanford, and a mix of good and bad ACC teams, 1 less harder game is alright. With the rivalries I mentioned and the ACC games, and Purdue/MSU, that's 9 BCS Games, which is more than ANYONE FBS. If they want to fill those 3 spots with B/C Level BCS Schools/mid majors, do it.

My guess is they schedule ASU/Arizona/NM/NMSU/Baylor/CU/CSU/Utah/UNLV then Sun-Belt, then random in order to get a presence everywhere.

There was a lot in the decision to drop Michigan, but I think the fact that Purdue/MSU are more inconsistent than Michigan and can give them more success had something to do with getting rid of 1 of the 3 B1G schools.

karen lotz;1280541 wrote:

You also assume that a lot of people give a fuck about Michigan.

This from an ND fan. LOLOL

karen lotz;1280541 wrote:Michigan is a slight step up from Boston College on Notre Dame's list of rivalries. I don't think ND is going to make any decisions on future scheduling of Michigan off of a national poll of people.

Also, I must have missed it when Swarbrick/ND said they were never going to play Michigan again. I'm not sure why everyone is just jumping to that conclusion.


You also assume that a lot of people give a **** about Michigan.

With the cancellation, the EARLIEST they will play will be 2020. There's a lot that can happen between now and then.

WebFire;1280543 wrote:This from an ND fan. LOLOL

Let's take a national poll of people and see who gives two shits about Michigan. Set up polling stations at Walmarts around the country, that would help your cause.

karen lotz;1280549 wrote:Let's take a national poll of people and see who gives two ****s about Michigan. Set up polling stations at Walmarts around the country, that would help your cause.

quite a few it would appear
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

If you add up these results across all 210 markets, the three most popular teams are the three that also usually have the largest home attendance: Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. (Ohio State is ranked first in the country with about 3.1 million fans.)

Keep the insults and name calling out of the discussion please. If you want to insult a poster, take it to the basement.

I'm betting the the TV coverage for ND vs. Navy is nowhere close to ND vs UM. ND also keeps two West coast games a year. USC I agree with keeping on the schedule but not dropping Stanford or Navy I question.

Fly4Fun;1280597 wrote:Keep the insults and name calling out of the discussion please. If you want to insult a poster, take it to the basement.

Calling it like I see it. I don't care what forum it is.

karen lotz;1280549 wrote:Let's take a national poll of people and see who gives two shits about Michigan. Set up polling stations at Walmarts around the country, that would help your cause.

And you think the results would be better for ND? :rolleyes:

WebFire;1280631 wrote:And you think the results would be better for ND? :rolleyes:

Yes if you take out Walmart frequenters.

So original.

said_aouita;1280598 wrote:I'm betting the the TV coverage for ND vs. Navy is nowhere close to ND vs UM. ND also keeps two West coast games a year. USC I agree with keeping on the schedule but not dropping Stanford or Navy I question.

I appreciate the history behind the ND/Navy game. And I respect the fact that ND is living up to the promise to repay Navy by playing them each year. After all, if it were not for the Naval Academy, Notre Dame may not be here. I would be more upset if ND ever dropped Navy.

Keeping Stanford on the schedule makes sense because it allows Notre Dame a chance to travel west in years where they play USC at home. Keeping both of these games gives ND a trip out west every year.

As I said before, I thought they could keep just about everyone they already had since they are already basically playing 4 ACC teams. I would have rather seen them drop BYU. But dropping a B1G team makes sense. And I'm assuming that since Purdue and Michigan State are the longer standing rivalries, that is why they kept them and dropped Michigan.

said_aouita;1280598 wrote:I'm betting the the TV coverage for ND vs. Navy is nowhere close to ND vs UM. ND also keeps two West coast games a year. USC I agree with keeping on the schedule but not dropping Stanford or Navy I question.

Notre Dame has good reasons to keep both of those programs on the schedule ahead of Michigan.

Not sure if this link has been posted or not but it's a decent read.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/page/football-120925Maisel/disappearance-notre-dame-fighting-irish-michigan-wolverines-rivalry-make-college-football-better