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Sep 5, 2012 2:42 PM
QuakerOats;1262041 wrote:and now we all fight the movement led by a black to enslave us to government.
You have the wrong perspective. The pay is better, the work much easier.
Sep 5, 2012 2:42pm
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Sep 5, 2012 6:59 PM
LMFAO....The Dems propose an amendment to the platform addressing criticisms about removing "God" and "Jerusalem as the capital of Israel"...Takes 2/3 to approve the motion. First vote is 50/50. A stunned chairman is befuddled what to do. Says "let me do that again". Even more clearly about 50/50 this time. He sits there for a good 30 seconds, clueless how to proceed. Then someone tells him to take the vote a third time. Still doesn't seem to be 2/3, but he proclaims the motion passed anyway.

Will make a nice piece for the next Citizens United commercial, no doubt.
Sep 5, 2012 6:59pm
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Sep 5, 2012 7:04 PM
gut;1262223 wrote:LMFAO....The Dems propose an amendment to the platform addressing criticisms about removing "God" and "Jerusalem as the capital of Israel"...Takes 2/3 to approve the motion. First vote is 50/50. A stunned chairman is befuddled what to do. Says "let me do that again". Even more clearly about 50/50 this time. He sits there for a good 30 seconds, clueless how to proceed. Then someone tells him to take the vote a third time. Still doesn't seem to be 2/3, but he proclaims the motion passed anyway.

Will make a nice piece for the next Citizens United commercial, no doubt.
The Republicans did the same thing to pass the rules to prevent Ron Paul from being nominated from the floor and thereby allowed a speech to the delegates.
Sep 5, 2012 7:04pm
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Sep 5, 2012 7:07 PM
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Sep 5, 2012 7:07pm
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Sep 5, 2012 7:40 PM
Cleveland Buck;1262225 wrote:The Republicans did the same thing to pass the rules to prevent Ron Paul from being nominated from the floor and thereby allowed a speech to the delegates.
In some respects similar, but still very different. Although he did call for a vote 3-times before finally just ignoring the result in order to appease Obama. Obama did a flip-flop and railroaded it thru the party, just like he does as POTUS.

I can see the Repub argument not wanting Paul to hijack the convention. But it was funny to see the Dems yield to public criticism to amend a platform no one really pays attention to - a wholesale flip-flop in less than 24 hours.
Sep 5, 2012 7:40pm
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Sep 5, 2012 8:04 PM
Since both parties are equally despicable, and I just got the Rs, here are the Ds.

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Sep 5, 2012 8:04pm
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Sep 5, 2012 8:22 PM
gut;1262223 wrote:LMFAO....The Dems propose an amendment to the platform addressing criticisms about removing "God" and "Jerusalem as the capital of Israel"...Takes 2/3 to approve the motion. First vote is 50/50. A stunned chairman is befuddled what to do. Says "let me do that again". Even more clearly about 50/50 this time. He sits there for a good 30 seconds, clueless how to proceed. Then someone tells him to take the vote a third time. Still doesn't seem to be 2/3, but he proclaims the motion passed anyway.

Will make a nice piece for the next Citizens United commercial, no doubt.
This was the finniest thing I've seen in weeks. Poor Villaraigosa was literally shtting his pants on stage.

The video of the delegates booing putting God back in the platform will make some tasty commercials for sure.
Sep 5, 2012 8:22pm
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Sep 5, 2012 8:32 PM
fish82;1262265 wrote:Poor Villaraigosa was literally shtting his pants on stage.
I give the guy some credit - he was going to follow procedure. "Rookie" mistake as he had to be told to ignore the rules and make the pre-determined outcome. Contrast that with Boehner who had to hold back a smile as he ignored the rules, but he wasn't indecisive in the least.
Sep 5, 2012 8:32pm
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Sep 5, 2012 8:36 PM
fish82;1262265 wrote: The video of the delegates booing putting God back in the platform will make some tasty commercials for sure.
"...one nation, under God" BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Romney no longer needs to worry about getting the far right vote out. The Dems just handed him that. Maybe we can get Dick Durbin to tell us what their booing was implying.
Sep 5, 2012 8:36pm
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Sep 5, 2012 8:39 PM
gut;1262273 wrote:I give the guy some credit - he was going to follow procedure. "Rookie" mistake as he had to be told to ignore the rules and make the pre-determined outcome. Contrast that with Boehner who had to hold back a smile as he ignored the rules, but he wasn't indecisive in the least.
It's all in how you sell it. That said, Villaraigosa's national career is finished before it even starts.

I'll go out on a limb and postulate that more Amuricans care about the pinkos booing God than care whether Paul gets a speaking spot. ;)
Sep 5, 2012 8:39pm
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Sep 5, 2012 9:18 PM
gut;1262279 wrote:"...one nation, under God" BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Romney no longer needs to worry about getting the far right vote out. The Dems just handed him that. Maybe we can get Dick Durbin to tell us what their booing was implying.
I agree with you here. For a change. Dems at this convention are assholes for taking this position. Most Americans are theists...including a pleurality of Democrats. WTF are they doing here?
Sep 5, 2012 9:18pm
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Sep 5, 2012 9:20 PM
Footwedge;1262335 wrote:I agree with you here. For a change. Dems at this convention are ****s for taking this position. Most Americans are theists...including a pleurality of Democrats. WTF are they doing here?
To be fair, I suspect Obama didn't know about it and then said something. He's busy campaigning, like he has for most of the past 4+ years. But if they had simply ignored it the issue goes away.

And I think some of the "protests" were more upset over buckling to the criticism, and then the railroad job. It was just so painfully transparent in the first place. This is a case of where politics got in the way of sanity.
Sep 5, 2012 9:20pm
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Sep 5, 2012 9:23 PM
Back to the convention, wtf is Sandra Fluke doing speaking at this convention?
Sep 5, 2012 9:23pm
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Sep 5, 2012 10:18 PM
This "convention" is full of anger, hatred, venom and derision the likes I've not seen before. Booing God??? Seriously? And THEY want to represent the majority of Americans?

Time for a divorce I say so they can go fester all by themselves.
Sep 5, 2012 10:18pm
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Sep 5, 2012 10:26 PM
gut;1262346 wrote:Back to the convention, wtf is Sandra Fluke doing speaking at this convention?
Give the Donks credit, at least they put her on when most people are watching the Giants/Cowboys. My guess is she's still lying about the cost of birth control and how she expects the taxpayers to pay for its unfounded costs. At least that explains our current deficits in paying for stuff we shouldn't and overpaying to boot.
Sep 5, 2012 10:26pm
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Sep 5, 2012 11:13 PM
Slick Willy is up there rolling along like it is open mic night. He misses the spotlight so much it just kills him, but he is on a roll tonight.
Sep 5, 2012 11:13pm
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Sep 5, 2012 11:18 PM
Sandra Fluke literally made my skin crawl. Although I admire her ability to completely mischaracterize someone she knows nothing about. It's the great strawman campaign is what it is.

And Slick Willy the politician is on form. Great speech, sadly I have to believe a lot of people are going to be deluded into thinking he's not up there as a partisan politician.

I'll sum up the two parties this way: One believes in trickle down, one believes in redistribution. Now, the track record for trickle down is not great, but it trumps redistribution which we see failing all over the world. Not only that, it doesn't even succeed very well at redistributing as the growing wealth gap is a GLOBAL problem.
Sep 5, 2012 11:18pm
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Sep 5, 2012 11:19 PM
IggyPride00;1262500 wrote:Slick Willy is up there rolling along like it is open mic night. He misses the spotlight so much it just kills him, but he is on a roll tonight.
He's extremely persuasive. He just exudes trust and honesty, but I wonder if the fact checkers were even able to keep up with him. He does make spinning an art form.
Sep 5, 2012 11:19pm
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Sep 5, 2012 11:23 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1262420 wrote:Give the Donks credit, at least they put her on when most people are watching the Giants/Cowboys. My guess is she's still lying about the cost of birth control and how she expects the taxpayers to pay for its unfounded costs. At least that explains our current deficits in paying for stuff we shouldn't and overpaying to boot.
I don't know if you saw her, but she's talking about Romney doesn't/didn't rebuke people for making sexist, bigoted, racist, etc... attacks. And, yet, just this week is Obama silent with multiple association of Nazis, etc... Key difference, though, is Rush Limbaugh is not a politician and doesn't warrant being acknowledged or reprimanded any more than Bill Maher or any other talking head.
Sep 5, 2012 11:23pm
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Sep 6, 2012 5:48 AM
Clinton made an extremely persuasive case for his third term. Not sure how much he helped Bam though. ;)
Sep 6, 2012 5:48am
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Sep 6, 2012 8:05 AM
fish82;1262612 wrote:Clinton made an extremely persuasive case for his third term. Not sure how much he helped Bam though. ;)
He wasn't there to help Obama, at all! This was all about staying in the good graces of the Democratic party for Hillary's run in '16. Clinton has called Obama "amateur" and "incompetent". Honestly, I'm not sure the Clinton's are far enough left for todays Democratic party.
Sep 6, 2012 8:05am
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Sep 6, 2012 8:14 AM
He wasn't there to help Obama, at all! This was all about staying in the good graces of the Democratic party for Hillary's run in '16. Clinton has called Obama "amateur" and "incompetent". Honestly, I'm not sure the Clinton's are far enough left for todays Democratic party.
My thoughts exactly. Slick Willie is a pretty solid political animal. The Clintons will be running in 2016.
Sep 6, 2012 8:14am
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Sep 6, 2012 10:12 AM
Ty Webb;1261818 wrote:OFA has internal polling that has Romney down 9 in Ohio...some there are quite a few whon would vote
I had lunch with a certain Republican State Senator a week before SB 5 vote and he told me their polls had the vote for that really close also. Me thinks they need a better poll:rolleyes:
Sep 6, 2012 10:12am
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Sep 6, 2012 10:22 AM
BGFalcons82;1262401 wrote:This "convention" is full of anger, hatred, venom and derision the likes I've not seen before. Booing God??? Seriously?
Add in an incredible amount of whining too; I guess that comes from community activism/agitation. These radicals have taken the wars on class and culture to levels never before seen.
Sep 6, 2012 10:22am
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Sep 6, 2012 10:25 AM
HitsRus;1262681 wrote:My thoughts exactly. Slick Willie is a pretty solid political animal. The Clintons will be running in 2016.
It would be difficult for that to happen, Hillary would be too old and an Obama victory this year would likely kill any chance of her winning in '16, or any DEM for that matter. The best thing for the Clintons would be for Obama to lose. The DEMs have shifted so far left this year (I just read Sandra Fluke's speech - good grief what an idiot) that I see a lot of current voters going Indy, and I have very little confidence that 4 more years of Obama will put the DEMs in the public's favorable graces. Even if Hillary is up for it does she want to take over a country that will likely carry a US$25T debt?
Sep 6, 2012 10:25am