like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 11, 2012 12:55pm
What's the difference? You already used the cop out "grey area" argument.ts1227;1223424 wrote:OK, we'll start enforcing all of JJs unwritten rules here too
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 1:30pm
Let me get this straight. If I get a basement ban I can come to the basement and bitch and it will be lifted. Wow way to moderate guys. If you're gonna ban someone to the basement stick to it don't second guess your decision. People will bitch about it even if its a minor name calling.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jul 11, 2012 1:43pm
So, someone infracted a poster based on their interpretation of the post. The mods discussed the post and came to the conclusion that the original interpretation was incorrect and overturned the infraction. This is worse than agreeing that the infraction was not warranted but still saying "fuck you, we're not correcting it because us mods stick together!"
Weren't people bitching about the mods discussing every post before they infract? Now, this isn't good enough?
If you're looking for a perfect system, you're not going to find it.
Weren't people bitching about the mods discussing every post before they infract? Now, this isn't good enough?
If you're looking for a perfect system, you're not going to find it.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 11, 2012 1:47pm
It's more that they're not on the same page - one mod infracted and banned hoops and other then said, nahh it wasn't that bad. So now, some mods have more say than other mods, at least thats what it looks like.
Maybe I'll tip them so i get better service.
Maybe I'll tip them so i get better service.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jul 11, 2012 1:50pm
they sure dohasbeen;1223479 wrote:people bitch
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jul 11, 2012 1:53pm
What it sounded like to me was a group of mods decided it wasn't that bad.Raw Dawgin' it;1223481 wrote:It's more that they're not on the same page - one mod infracted and banned hoops and other then said, nahh it wasn't that bad. So now, some mods have more say than other mods, at least thats what it looks like.
Maybe I'll tip them so i get better service.
That wouldn't make sense because a tip isn't meant to receive better service. A tip is used to judge value on the service you have already received.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 11, 2012 1:55pm
It wasn't a group.hasbeen;1223493 wrote:What it sounded like to me was a group of mods decided it wasn't that bad.
That wouldn't make sense because a tip isn't meant to receive better service. A tip is used to judge value on the service you have already received.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jul 11, 2012 1:57pm
se-alum;1223495 wrote:It wasn't a group.
Then I agree with the rest. An infraction should only be overturned by justin or the group of moderators.
That really is stupid. You're a mod with less power.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 11, 2012 1:58pm
My head hurts from reading this. Bottom line, OC is running a fine line ATM. Wants to clean things up a bit so we don't read 40 pages of posters going at it, but also want teh lulz to continue, just in a less thread derailment way. Going to take some growing pains. I think some common sense and poster history need to come into play here. Hoops, an all pwn team member, great poster etc... should garner some credibility on here esp considering how long he's been on here. To ban him for liberal trash comment (esp when its true lolz) should not be a basement ban. Thats fucking Cry4Fail territory right there. Glad it was reversed. I'm just glad the OC mods aren't all like Cry4Fail who would refuse to aknowledge his fail and correct it. Props to the mods for reversing that.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 11, 2012 2:03pm
Cry4Fail doesn't even post anymore. He's trash.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 11, 2012 2:03pm
The point is, hasbeen, no one except the small minority likes the new rules. They are retarded.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jul 11, 2012 2:05pm
I think CoA is right. It's a fine line and it hasn't all been ironed out yet. But some of the infractions that have been handed out are pretty fucking ticky tack.sleeper;1223509 wrote:The point is, hasbeen, no one except the small minority likes the new rules. They are retarded.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 11, 2012 2:06pm
It's incompetent moderation. Nothing more, nothing less. I've never been a member of a forum that was this terrible at enforcing rules.hasbeen;1223512 wrote:I think CoA is right. It's a fine line and it hasn't all been ironed out yet. But some of the infractions that have been handed out are pretty fucking ticky tack.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 11, 2012 2:07pm
And the mods all interpret them in different ways and then undermine each other. Basically - if a mod does something, another mod shouldn't come in and say they were wrong. Justin should have say over that but all mods should respect the decisions made by another mod. se-alum is clearly the bitch of the mods.sleeper;1223509 wrote:The point is, hasbeen, no one except the small minority likes the new rules. They are retarded.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 11, 2012 2:07pm
Plus One.hasbeen;1223512 wrote:I think CoA is right. It's a fine line and it hasn't all been ironed out yet. But some of the infractions that have been handed out are pretty fucking ticky tack.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 2:08pm
The rules dont bug me much. I know the written and the unwritten ones and follow them the best I can. I have been warned and deserved it. I think with it being so relaxed for so long people are just used to it. In the beginning anything was fine with the few exceptions revealing someones identity and no nudity. I understand both sides cause I love to say GFY and call people names just like the next guy. I also understand jj i mean justins side. He wants to grow the forum and to do so, rules will have to be enforced which will piss some people off.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 2:09pm
hasbeen;1223512 wrote:I think CoA is right. It's a fine line and it hasn't all been ironed out yet. But some of the infractions that have been handed out are pretty fucking ticky tack.
reps
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 11, 2012 2:11pm
Seriously - open a thread an show the posts that get warnings and infractions. We'll then have benchmarks on what is and isn't ok to post.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 11, 2012 2:13pm
Then they wouldn't be able to bring up the "grey area" argument.Raw Dawgin' it;1223525 wrote:Seriously - open a thread an show the posts that get warnings and infractions. We'll then have benchmarks on what is and isn't ok to post.
Also no one gives a fuck what you think, and nobody gives a fuck if you get to see the infractions or not.
/LJ
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 11, 2012 2:24pm
This post needed more GFYs.mcburg93;1223519 wrote:The rules dont bug me much. I know the written and the unwritten ones and follow them the best I can. I have been warned and deserved it. I think with it being so relaxed for so long people are just used to it. In the beginning anything was fine with the few exceptions revealing someones identity and no nudity. I understand both sides cause I love to say GFY and call people names just like the next guy. I also understand jj i mean justins side. He wants to grow the forum and to do so rules will have to be enforced which will piss some people off.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 11, 2012 2:30pm
+1. Mcburg has quickly established himself as one of the bigger bitches on OC.sleeper;1223539 wrote:This post needed more GFYs.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 2:36pm
GFYsleeper;1223539 wrote:This post needed more GFYs.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 2:36pm
GFYlike_that;1223544 wrote:+1. Mcburg has quickly established himself as one of the bigger bitches on OC.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 11, 2012 2:41pm
I liked you more when you made more of these types of posts.mcburg93;1223556 wrote:GFY
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2012 2:44pm
reps now GFYlike_that;1223560 wrote:I liked you more when you made more of these types of posts.