Crimson streak;1228521 wrote:Irving waiters probabled hedo or j rich. Then either zeller or Thompson at the 4 Bynum at 5. With gee, boobie, samuels, av off the bench. I'm guessing Thompson or av go in the trade. With an improved kyrie and the Bynum and add in waiters who if averages 15 is a huge upgrade. I could see around 4-5-6
Curious at who you see making a run at the playoffs in the East. Outside of Boston and Mia and I guess NY I'm having a hard time coming up with other teams that improved. Atl got worse IMO, Bobcats I don't see making a run. Chic possibly, be hard without Rose. NY I think is stagnant/could argue they're worse. Toronto maybe, depending on valciousnosususohshs (or however its spelled). Wizards I would doubt it. Orlando will be worse without Howard. Philly and Indy I'd put in the mix, though Philly got worse IMO.wildcats20;1228517 wrote:I don't know about easily, but they could definitely make a run at the 7 or 8.
Commander of Awesome;1228526 wrote:Curious at who you see making a run at the playoffs in the East. Outside of Boston and Mia and I guess NY I'm having a hard time coming up with other teams that improved. Atl got worse IMO, Bobcats I don't see making a run. Chic possibly, be hard without Rose. NY I think is stagnant/could argue they're worse. Toronto maybe, depending on valciousnosususohshs (or however its spelled). Wizards I would doubt it. Orlando will be worse without Howard. Philly and Indy I'd put in the mix, though Philly got worse IMO.
So I have Mia, Boston, Pacers, Nets as in. Maybe Mil gets in this yr, and leaves 3 more spots. I'd think with a healthy Bynum the Cavs could make the playoffs.
Commander of Awesome;1228526 wrote:Curious at who you see making a run at the playoffs in the East. Outside of Boston and Mia and I guess NY I'm having a hard time coming up with other teams that improved. Atl got worse IMO, Bobcats I don't see making a run. Chic possibly, be hard without Rose. NY I think is stagnant/could argue they're worse. Toronto maybe, depending on valciousnosususohshs (or however its spelled). Wizards I would doubt it. Orlando will be worse without Howard. Philly and Indy I'd put in the mix, though Philly got worse IMO.
So I have Mia, Boston, Pacers, Nets as in. Maybe Mil gets in this yr, and leaves 3 more spots. I'd think with a healthy Bynum the Cavs could make the playoffs.
Laley23;1228549 wrote:Brand. I think thats it. But I was out of town for 4 days and missed a TON of NBA action.
Yep, thats one I didnt know about. Pretty big loss. Productive scorer for them. Gonna be tough to replace that type of guard.Terry_Tate;1228557 wrote:And Lou Williams.
I think the 76ers will be good and probably in the playoffs, but its time to give ET the keys to the car and let him sink or swim. I really think they go up or down depending on how he improves.
I don't agree with you about Chicago. To me they're like the old Cavs without LBJ, Carlos User Looser Boozer isn't leading them into the playoffs. Deng and him can't ever stay healthy and I just don't buy into them making it, unless Rose comes back early and healthy. Atlanta only got worse IMO, they lost their go to number 1 scorer, and while still talented I think they falter. Mil is in the same boat IMO as last season. Some decent players, but don't scare anyone. They got rid of Bogut for Jack city who plays negative defense. Their back court is really undersized, and have a tendency to take HORRIBLE shots.wildcats20;1228535 wrote:I mean obviously they are going to be better. And I don't think the playoffs are out of the question. But to say they would easily make it? I mean come on.
Commander of Awesome;1228687 wrote:I don't agree with you about Chicago. To me they're like the old Cavs without LBJ, Carlos User Looser Boozer isn't leading them into the playoffs. Deng and him can't ever stay healthy and I just don't buy into them making it, unless Rose comes back early and healthy. Atlanta only got worse IMO, they lost their go to number 1 scorer, and while still talented I think they falter. Mil is in the same boat IMO as last season. Some decent players, but don't scare anyone. They got rid of Bogut for Jack city who plays negative defense. Their back court is really undersized, and have a tendency to take HORRIBLE shots.
76ers got worse, as did the knicks. I think the Knicks still find a way in, I'm undecided on the 76ers. I think the Cavs with ROY Irving, and widely considered the #2 center in the league (yet to be seen if his head is in the game) a nice back up at #4 and #5 in Zeller, hopefully an improved #2 guard in Waiters (again a maybe) could and should be in the mix for a playoff spot. Especially with how weak the East looks right now.
Until I started writing this post last night, I hadn't even considered how weak the East the looks for the upcoming season. Its pretty bleak.
You also forget that we were in tank mode last season. I understand what you're getting at. And to some extent I agree, I'm just explaining with how terrible the east is, and the Cavs end up with the second best center in the league I would expect them to make the playoffs. If that categorized as "easily" then so be it.wildcats20;1228698 wrote:I never said they wouldn't.
But saying they EASILY make the playoffs after finishing 14 games out of the 8 seed last year is laughable.
Is that wrong? Is it not possible we get a 4, 5, or 6 seed?wildcats20;1228700 wrote:Let alone saying a 4, 5 or 6 is possible.
I do. We're gonna get the 1 seed.SportsAndLady;1228705 wrote:Is that wrong? Is it not possible we get a 4, 5, or 6 seed?
Do you know the future?
wildcats20;1228700 wrote:Let alone saying a 4, 5 or 6 is possible.
Da Fuq?Mulva;1229077 wrote:The east is gonna be so bad.
ohiobucks1;1229190 wrote:Da Fuq?
The Celtics, Pacers, and possibly bulls are all very GOOD teams. The Heat and Nets are going to be GREAT teams.
How can you say a league is bad when at least 5 teams are very good?
+1, I am not buying into this Nets hype.Laley23;1229200 wrote:Nets added Joe Johnson, and all the sudden they are going to go from terrible to great? Joe Johnson is not that good.
Will the be improved? Certainly. A healthy Lopez, Johnson being added and Wallace for a whole year. But those are all just complementary pieces. Williams is the only star, and they were still terrible last year and have the bulk of that coming back.like_that;1229201 wrote:+1, I am not buying into this Nets hype.