O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 20, 2012 11:37pm
Use both. They each have their strengths.
I prefer PCs, because I like control. The ability to easily edit the registry, plus the selection of Windows-capable applications makes options more varied.
However, the Mac and its compatible software is phenomenal for my digital media display creation.
The "PC" (laptop) I bought was about the same cost as most Macs, and the performance is (in my opinion) better for the same cost.
The problem with this discussion is that people are trying to compare a $1,200 Mac with a $400-600 Dell or HP. Of course the Mac is going to be better. That kind of Mac was built to be better.
When you compare two that are built for about the same cost, you're going to get CLOSE to the same result.
I prefer PCs, because I like control. The ability to easily edit the registry, plus the selection of Windows-capable applications makes options more varied.
However, the Mac and its compatible software is phenomenal for my digital media display creation.
The "PC" (laptop) I bought was about the same cost as most Macs, and the performance is (in my opinion) better for the same cost.
The problem with this discussion is that people are trying to compare a $1,200 Mac with a $400-600 Dell or HP. Of course the Mac is going to be better. That kind of Mac was built to be better.
When you compare two that are built for about the same cost, you're going to get CLOSE to the same result.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 21, 2012 11:09am
I think its marginally hilarious that you want to compare to similar priced Macs vs. PCs and say they aren't too different. I just gave you a perfect example of a MAC and a PC that were relatively the same spec-wise and you dismiss it because the Dell isn't a high end PC.Automatik;1206551 wrote:lol..I don't even have a 2k+ Mac. Specs aren't the whole story, but I'm sure you knew that.
The computer I posted is more comparable to the 2k MBP in your earlier post, it's a Dell if you haven't figured that out by now. The one you posted was probably aimed more towards 18 year olds fresh out of high school.
Neither are MACs. It's pure marketing that is pumped into your subconscious and its clearly working since you are now a delusional backer of the product. How does defeat taste? I've heard its fairly salty, but I wouldn't know, so tell me.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 21, 2012 12:20pm
And Dell actually makes pretty good PCs at the higher end of the market. And servers.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jun 21, 2012 1:12pm
sleeper;1207159 wrote:I think its marginally hilarious that you want to compare to similar priced Macs vs. PCs and say they aren't too different. I just gave you a perfect example of a MAC and a PC that were relatively the same spec-wise and you dismiss it because the Dell isn't a high end PC.
Neither are MACs. It's pure marketing that is pumped into your subconscious and its clearly working since you are now a delusional backer of the product. How does defeat taste? I've heard its fairly salty, but I wouldn't know, so tell me.
Had you not welched on the iPad bet, youd know what it tasted like. And how expensive it is.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 21, 2012 5:23pm
I had pretty good luck with 2 or 3 Dell laptops. The issue with them is primarily customer service (the worst!). If you have a warranty you're basically screwed (especially as a home user), but ordering and getting timely delivery can be a bitch, too. And they really aren't cheaper anymore than comparative pc's with better quality and service records.WebFire;1207265 wrote:And Dell actually makes pretty good PCs at the higher end of the market. And servers.
As to the thread topic, you can definitely find comparative pc's priced @ the Macs (although $100 on $2k is still fairly significant, but perhaps justifiable for other reasons). But if you shop around a bit much better deals aren't that tough to find.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 21, 2012 5:51pm
I still have an HP from July of 2007 that does fine, and that I use on occasion. It was a well-made computer, and I actually took care of it and used some sense when surfing the Interwebz.
As far as the "virus" issue is concerned, it's virtually negligible if you take care of it like you would anything else you own.
As far as the "virus" issue is concerned, it's virtually negligible if you take care of it like you would anything else you own.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 21, 2012 5:57pm
I can probably count on 1 hand the number of viruses I've had the past 10 years. There's pretty good free protection out there. I think people getting viruses must be going to a lot of really shady sites and probably downloading a bunch of music and torrents (illegally).O-Trap;1207683 wrote:I still have an HP from July of 2007 that does fine, and that I use on occasion. It was a well-made computer, and I actually took care of it and used some sense when surfing the Interwebz.
As far as the "virus" issue is concerned, it's virtually negligible if you take care of it like you would anything else you own.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 21, 2012 6:05pm
I'll see your "music and torrents," and I'll raise you adult material, even.gut;1207692 wrote:I can probably count on 1 hand the number of viruses I've had the past 10 years. There's pretty good free protection out there. I think people getting viruses must be going to a lot of really shady sites and probably downloading a bunch of music and torrents (illegally).
It's true. Most people I've seen have issues either had warnings they ignored or downloaded something they know they shouldn't have. Contrary to popular belief, something can't just install and run itself on people's computers. It has to be catalyzed by the computer user.
I know you know that, but it just shocks me how people can think that they went to a website and it put malware on their computer without their knowledge.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 21, 2012 7:52pm
Going on 9 years with my Dell Desktop.WebFire;1207265 wrote:And Dell actually makes pretty good PCs at the higher end of the market. And servers.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 21, 2012 7:54pm
There was no bet and the money wasn't the issue. It would have been, what, like $20k? :laugh:j_crazy;1207344 wrote:Had you not welched on the iPad bet, youd know what it tasted like. And how expensive it is.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 22, 2012 11:18am
I was going to say this, basically.O-Trap;1206863 wrote:The problem with this discussion is that people are trying to compare a $1,200 Mac with a $400-600 Dell or HP. Of course the Mac is going to be better. That kind of Mac was built to be better.
The product, as a whole, isn't made to last forever. New computers will come out every year. Each company will "upgrade" every year. I am not about to pay $1,200 for a product that just will be "upgraded" in a year or two. Computers will crap out eventually, as well. I know they are basically "throw away" materials. Yes, you can continue to fix different parts and such, but computers won't last forever.
I will buy 3-5 PCs before I'd spend the money to buy a Mac. It's money better spent, in my opinion.
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Bob Dole
Posts: 62
Jun 22, 2012 12:25pm
False. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_%28computer_worm%29O-Trap;1207698 wrote: Contrary to popular belief, something can't just install and run itself on people's computers. It has to be catalyzed by the computer user.
Most computer viruses (recently) take advantage of out-of-date Adobe Reader/Flash plugins. A user has to browse to a site with a malicious advert and they're instantly boned. The site in question does NOT have to be a shady site. Facebook has been the victim of malicious ads before.
If you get that little Adobe prompt when you turn your computer on, there's a reason it wants updated: They've patched an exploit virus programmers are using.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 22, 2012 1:06pm
Ummm, this very site had that problem some time ago.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 22, 2012 2:04pm
Damn. Good call. I'd heard of that years ago, but I thought that had been all patched up by now.Bob Dole;1209029 wrote:False. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(computer_worm)
Most computer viruses (recently) take advantage of out-of-date Adobe Reader/Flash plugins. A user has to browse to a site with a malicious advert and they're instantly boned. The site in question does NOT have to be a shady site. Facebook has been the victim of malicious ads before.
If you get that little Adobe prompt when you turn your computer on, there's a reason it wants updated: They've patched an exploit virus programmers are using.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 26, 2012 9:09am
If you're a Mac user, clearly you have money to burn according to Orbitz: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html?mod=djemalertNEWS
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jul 9, 2012 9:12am
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 9, 2012 9:51am
lmao...you would have to be a tard to drop that much on a desktop PC and an even bigger one to spend that much on a Mac.
Build your own.
Build your own.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 9, 2012 10:08am
WebFire;1221381 wrote:
lolz'd
"But it's a Mac, so it's better, even if everything else is the same."
Agreed. You can get a damn-near bank-cracking PC for that price. I knew a guy who built one for about $2K that had a 64-core HD (well, 8 double-quads) and substantially more RAM than those. It was beyond what anyone would need for anything ethical for a long, long time.Automatik;1221395 wrote:lmao...you would have to be a tard to drop that much on a desktop PC and an even bigger one to spend that much on a Mac.
Build your own.
However, I'm pretty sure he built the whole thing to run a brute forcer, so it technically makes sense.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 9, 2012 10:10am
A good friend of mine recently dropped over 3k on an Alienware desktop. :laugh:
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 9, 2012 10:17am
SMDH ...Automatik;1221404 wrote:A good friend of mine recently dropped over 3k on an Alienware desktop. :laugh:
Your friend needs to care more about practicality and less about colored lights.
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MontyBrunswick
Jul 9, 2012 11:02am
O-Trap;1221401 wrote: I knew a guy who built one for about $2K that had a 64-core HD (well, 8 double-quads) .
What the fuck are you talking about
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 9, 2012 11:18am
Thanks for the catch. Not HD. Processor.dlazz;1221442 wrote:What the fuck are you talking about
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MontyBrunswick
Jul 9, 2012 11:45am
I still don't know what you're talking about
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 9, 2012 12:05pm
Ah well. I tried. You did help me notice an error in what I'd said, so thanks for that.dlazz;1221478 wrote:I still don't know what you're talking about
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MontyBrunswick
Jul 9, 2012 12:14pm
It's cool, I still love you.