wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 20, 2012 4:50pm
Automatik;1206516 wrote:You're right, but that's not their style. Same with the phones, 3 versions of the same phone, annual release, still killin it.
I agree though, 2k+ for a laptop is insane.
Yeah, people are comparing the thousand dollar Mac with an inspiron. It is aimed at the same market as xps, thinkpad and other premium builds, do the comparison is not fair.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 5:02pm
But at the same time, we are comparing Macs to PCs. So is it not accurate to say you can get a PC laptop for much less than a MBP?wes_mantooth;1206518 wrote:Yeah, people are comparing the thousand dollar Mac with an inspiron. It is aimed at the same market as xps, thinkpad and other premium builds, do the comparison is not fair.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 20, 2012 5:05pm
Yeah, definitely accurate. You can also get a Ford Festiva for much less than a Porche 911.WebFire;1206530 wrote:But at the same time, we are comparing Macs to PCs. So is it not accurate to say you can get a PC laptop for much less than a MBP?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 20, 2012 5:05pm
WebFire;1206530 wrote:But at the same time, we are comparing Macs to PCs. So is it not accurate to say you can get a PC laptop for much less than a MBP?
Def accurate.... I am just saying that I think they are aimed at different markets. Fwiw, I have an inspiron i5 and love it. I think it cost 600, but it was bought over a year ago
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 20, 2012 5:08pm
And your point? They have similar specs(actually the Dell has better specs) and costs over $1,000 less. How does it feel to be wrong?Automatik;1206506 wrote:lol...you're comparing that to a DELL.
The new MBP is high that's for damn sure.
Compare the regular MBP line to a loaded Asus or thinkpad. Then try the Zenbooks w/ the Air models. The difference isn't much.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 20, 2012 5:09pm
This posts reeks of backtracking and buying into subjective marketing bullshit. I love being right with minimal effort. How does it feel to be wrong?Automatik;1206516 wrote:You're right, but that's not their style. Same with the phones, 3 versions of the same phone, annual release, still killin it.
I agree though, 2k+ for a laptop is insane.
There was a time when the build quality between Mac laptops and PCs wasn't too close, besides Lenovo IMO. If you haven't figured it out I love thinkpads.
But lately they the competition has stepped it up with better cases, hardware, etc. Asus is another brand that makes nice stuff. Even though they have gotten better, I still won't give props to Dell. F that company.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 20, 2012 5:16pm
So you post a top of the line MBP and a run of the mill Dell and you win? lmao...try harder.sleeper;1206540 wrote:This posts reeks of backtracking and buying into subjective marketing bullshit. I love being right with minimal effort. How does it feel to be wrong?
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 20, 2012 5:27pm
I only focused on specs. Isn't it sad you pay $1000 more for a computer with the same specs because it looks cool? Isn't it sad a run of the mill Dell beats your MBP?Automatik;1206543 wrote:So you post a top of the line MBP and a run of the mill Dell and you win? lmao...try harder.
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Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 20, 2012 5:32pm
lol..I don't even have a 2k+ Mac. Specs aren't the whole story, but I'm sure you knew that.sleeper;1206548 wrote:I only focused on specs. Isn't it sad you pay $1000 more for a computer with the same specs because it looks cool? Isn't it sad a run of the mill Dell beats your MBP?
The computer I posted is more comparable to the 2k MBP in your earlier post, it's a Dell if you haven't figured that out by now. The one you posted was probably aimed more towards 18 year olds fresh out of high school.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jun 20, 2012 6:18pm
We can argue the hardware differences for weeks and the bottom-line is the hardware for Mac vs. PC = more or less the same computing power.
What we're really talking about here is not the hardware, but the OS.
I use both PC's and Mac's. I prefer PC's personally but that's just me. If you want great graphics processing, a Mac is what you need. If you're crunching numbers and words, I'll choose the Windows-based PC every time.
What we're really talking about here is not the hardware, but the OS.
I use both PC's and Mac's. I prefer PC's personally but that's just me. If you want great graphics processing, a Mac is what you need. If you're crunching numbers and words, I'll choose the Windows-based PC every time.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 8:14pm
Nonetheless, you cannot argue that a Porsche doesn't cost much more than a Ford.Automatik;1206533 wrote:Yeah, definitely accurate. You can also get a Ford Festiva for much less than a Porche 911.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 20, 2012 8:20pm
No doubt, but the point is, when compared to other high end competitor models, the pricing is not that far off. See my earlier post.WebFire;1206633 wrote:Nonetheless, you cannot argue that a Porsche doesn't cost much more than a Ford.
PC makers produce lower end, cheaper models to meet all budgets and have endless options. Apple simply does not. It's genius, but it pisses me off. They limit your choices. Either buy their expensive high end product or don't buy it at all.
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yobro08
Posts: 237
Jun 20, 2012 8:55pm
my pc lasted me 2.5 years, my macs at 1.5 years right now..ill wait a year to make the decision so far the mac is way better than my pos hp that costed the same
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 20, 2012 9:18pm
I never said it was "superior"WebFire;1206512 wrote:We do buy them more RAM. And yes, PC users do too. My point is Mac hardware isn't superior as you claim.
I said the OS is built for the hardware... It usually gives the user a more seamless experience..
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 9:38pm
My disagreement is that a less powerful Mac can do as well or better than a slightly better spec'd PC.hoops23;1206691 wrote:I never said it was "superior"
I said the OS is built for the hardware... It usually gives the user a more seamless experience..
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 9:39pm
Both sides have stories like that. We have PCs and Macs (about 55 PCs, 15 Macs) that last 4-5 years and I only EOL them because of age. I also have a few of both that are problems from the day the box is opened.yobro08;1206660 wrote:my pc lasted me 2.5 years, my macs at 1.5 years right now..ill wait a year to make the decision so far the mac is way better than my pos hp that costed the same
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 20, 2012 9:41pm
What are you disagreeing with? My MBP is slightly less powerful than my friends laptop but I'm able to run Diablo 3 on high settings and he's struggling on lower settings... I have an early 2011 MBP with the 2.3 GHz i5 with 8 GB RAM and an integrated Intel HD 3000 graphics card! INTEGRATED!!!!!!!WebFire;1206720 wrote:My disagreement is that a less powerful Mac can do as well or better than a slightly better spec'd PC.
I believe my MBP was the last model to have an integrated graphics card.
And I know games aren't the best judge on overall performance, but my original statement was regarding that.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jun 20, 2012 9:42pm
Thing I don't get is the complex mac users get tagged with. I love my mac products but you wouldn't know I had a mac unless I told you. Those I know have macs don't act any differently at all. Its complete bullshit, and no I don't drive a VW Jetta either but occasionally the smell of my own farts is ok 
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 9:50pm
Oh, we should use your one sample then. Carry on.hoops23;1206728 wrote:What are you disagreeing with? My MBP is slightly less powerful than my friends laptop but I'm able to run Diablo 3 on high settings and he's struggling on lower settings... I have an early 2011 MBP with the 2.3 GHz i5 with 8 GB RAM and an integrated Intel HD 3000 graphics card! INTEGRATED!!!!!!!
I believe my MBP was the last model to have an integrated graphics card.
And I know games aren't the best judge on overall performance, but my original statement was regarding that.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 20, 2012 9:55pm
I think you're failing the realize that this never ending argument basically comes down personal preference and opinion.WebFire;1206740 wrote:Oh, we should use your one sample then. Carry on.
I just enjoy shooting the shit when people make retarded claims. I dominate on both types daily anyway.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 20, 2012 9:56pm
lol. Yep, that's what I said :rolleyes:WebFire;1206740 wrote:Oh, we should use your one sample then. Carry on.
Why u so mad tho?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 10:00pm
I agree. I don't dislike Macs. Just don't like when people claim one is superior than the other.Automatik;1206744 wrote:I think you're failing the realize that this never ending argument basically comes down personal preference and opinion.
I just enjoy shooting the shit when people make retarded claims. I dominate on both types daily anyway.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 20, 2012 10:01pm
I'm not really.hoops23;1206747 wrote:lol. Yep, that's what I said :rolleyes:
Why u so mad tho?
hoops23
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Jun 20, 2012 10:04pm
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