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Con_Alma
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Jun 14, 2012 8:46pm
Policies don't stop bullying.
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MontyBrunswick
Jun 14, 2012 8:50pm
[h=2]dumbass   [duhm-as][/h]isadore;1200219 wrote:so·cial dar·win·ism
Noun:
The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection
noun Slang: Vulgar . a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.
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isadore
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Jun 14, 2012 9:19pm
the right policy correctly implemented does.Con_Alma;1200244 wrote:Policies don't stop bullying.
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isadore
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Jun 14, 2012 9:25pm
youCon_Alma;1200243 wrote:Of course they should have a policy. Did someone say they shouldn't? Don't they all have such policy's?
given the number of kids going to school and the amount of time they spend there, it schools are entity that should be actively involved in fighting bullying,Con_Alma wrote:I respectfully decline any movement by schools to provide services that others entities are specifically in place to perform. If kids or families have a problem they need to seek those entities out.
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isadore
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Jun 14, 2012 9:29pm
gosh a ruddies, I taught you what social darwinism meant, a little positive feedback would have been nice. oh well at least I had the pleasure of adding the term social darwinism to your vocabulary.dlazz;1200246 wrote:dumbass   [duhm-as]
noun Slang: Vulgar . a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.
Pick6
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Jun 14, 2012 9:30pm
what is this policy?isadore;1200275 wrote:the right policy correctly implemented does.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jun 14, 2012 10:08pm
Ah gotcha
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2012 10:22pm
Raise taxes on the wealthy.Pick6;1200309 wrote:what is this policy?
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isadore
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Jun 14, 2012 10:41pm
always a good policysleeper;1200441 wrote:Raise taxes on the wealthy.
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isadore
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Jun 14, 2012 10:50pm
well this is a good startPick6;1200309 wrote:what is this policy?
http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=435&ContentID=29246&
http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=431&ContentID=29246&Content=125774
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gut
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Jun 14, 2012 11:30pm
A bully tax. Might even call it the "Mitt Romney tax". You could be onto something.sleeper;1200441 wrote:Raise taxes on the wealthy.
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Con_Alma
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Jun 15, 2012 6:15am
A policy is not social services. Sorry but you're incorrect here. I am under the impression that all schools have policies against such behavior.isadore;1200296 wrote:you
given the number of kids going to school and the amount of time they spend there, it schools are entity that should be actively involved in fighting bullying,
DO they not?
It won't matter anyway because the most stringent policy won't stop bullying.
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Con_Alma
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Jun 15, 2012 6:17am
So the State mandated in 2007 all schools put a policy in place banning bullying? It either hasn't stopped bullying or the schools haven't done it. Which is it?
ManO'War
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Jun 15, 2012 8:23am
I just read an article on former pro football players committing suicide, so were they bullied too??
There has to be more going on with a person than just being "bullied" for them to kill themselves.
I remember quite a few kids who were outcasts and made fun of when I was in school. None of them killed themselves.
So the cause-effect here seems pretty weak at best.
There has to be more going on with a person than just being "bullied" for them to kill themselves.
I remember quite a few kids who were outcasts and made fun of when I was in school. None of them killed themselves.
So the cause-effect here seems pretty weak at best.
redstreak one
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Jun 15, 2012 8:48am
8760 Hours in a year, 1274 hours in a school year. Unfortunately the internet is 24/7! Schools have a role, but must have support.isadore;1200242 wrote:since kids spend so much time in school, it makes sense for schools to have a policy about bullying.
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isadore
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Jun 15, 2012 9:52am
the number of school hours is somewhat understated, many students spend hours a day riding the bus to and from school, many students spend several hours a week in extracurricular activities.redstreak one;1200987 wrote:8760 Hours in a year, 1274 hours in a school year. Unfortunately the internet is 24/7! Schools have a role, but must have support.
redstreak one
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Jun 15, 2012 10:00am
^^^^ Many students walk, take public transportation, ride with parents or drive themselves. The point is, school isnt equipped to handle this alone. They play a role, but with no support %from parents, community or society as a whole they will fail.
180 days a year, our school is 7 hours per for my total. Even if you factor in bus rides, that still only accounts for 16% or so.
180 days a year, our school is 7 hours per for my total. Even if you factor in bus rides, that still only accounts for 16% or so.
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isadore
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Jun 15, 2012 10:05am
It takes time to implement a policy.Con_Alma;1200953 wrote:So the State mandated in 2007 all schools put a policy in place banning bullying? It either hasn't stopped bullying or the schools haven't done it. Which is it?
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isadore
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Jun 15, 2012 10:07am
and that is more than any where else in a social situation.redstreak one;1201041 wrote:^^^^ Many students walk, take public transportation, ride with parents or drive themselves. The point is, school isnt equipped to handle this alone. They play a role, but with no support %from parents, community or society as a whole they will fail.
180 days a year, our school is 7 hours per for my total. Even if you factor in bus rides, that still only accounts for 16% or so.
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isadore
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Jun 15, 2012 10:08am
the best enforced law never eliminates crime but reduces it, the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.Con_Alma;1200952 wrote:A policy is not social services. Sorry but you're incorrect here. I am under the impression that all schools have policies against such behavior.
DO they not?
It won't matter anyway because the most stringent policy won't stop bullying.
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MontyBrunswick
Jun 15, 2012 10:20am
what is your "best policy"?isadore;1201053 wrote:the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.
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Con_Alma
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Jun 15, 2012 10:31am
I don't think I disagreed with this anywhere. I have, however, added to that premise. A school and a policy won't rid society of bullying...ever.isadore;1201053 wrote:the best enforced law never eliminates crime but reduces it, the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.