sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jun 12, 2012 8:14pm
I'm not saying that there isn't strategy involved when there's a DH. I'm saying there's more strategy involved when the pitcher is forced to hit.hoops23;1197224 wrote:The NL is the only league without a DH to my knowledge. Little League, HS, College, MiLB, all have DH.
This isn't the 1930's. I want to see the best hitters available hitting.
You got your slugging DH up in the 9th with the bases loaded in a tie game... There's no strategy in how the other team approaches that?
Let's say you have the pitcher up int he same scenario, instead you send a PH batting .210 to the plate. Exciting.
Like right now...walking the #8 batter to get to the pitcher. I would say that's a strategic move by the Indians. Would you disagree with that?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 12, 2012 8:15pm
lol, yeah... One series proves everything. Interleague records? All star record over the last 15 years?Midstate01;1197233 wrote:Oh ok. Thanks
Rangers scored 100000000 runs last year. Lost to the cards in the world series
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Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jun 12, 2012 8:16pm
hoops23;1197237 wrote:lol, yeah... One series proves everything. Interleague records? All star record over the last 15 years?
All star record?? Lol nobody gives 2 fucks about the all star game.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 12, 2012 8:18pm
Sure. But its stupid strategy. I mean, of course they are going to, cause the pitchers suck at hitting. I would rather see the #8 hitter get pitched to than the pitcher. In other words, its strategy because its forced strategy. It is something a 5 year old could do. Walk the 8 hitter to get to the pitcher.sherm03;1197236 wrote:I'm not saying that there isn't strategy involved when there's a DH. I'm saying there's more strategy involved when the pitcher is forced to hit.
Like right now...walking the #8 batter to get to the pitcher. I would say that's a strategic move by the Indians. Would you disagree with that?
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jun 12, 2012 8:19pm
Can we go back to talking about the game. Series threads are for this shit.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 12, 2012 8:19pm
It was only a part of the equation, but I doubt one league would like to be the whipping boy for so long.Midstate01;1197241 wrote:All star record?? Lol nobody gives 2 fucks about the all star game.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 12, 2012 8:20pm
Series thread is going just fine, thanks.Midstate01;1197245 wrote:Can we go back to talking about the game. Series threads are for this shit.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jun 12, 2012 8:21pm
Maybe that's why pitchers suck so bad at hitting when they are in the majors. If we do away with the DH rule in Little League, HS, and college...more pitchers would be able to hit in the majors.hoops23;1197224 wrote:The NL is the only league without a DH to my knowledge. Little League, HS, College, MiLB, all have DH.
Midstate01 wrote:Can we go back to talking about the game. Series threads are for this shit.
Now we can.
Cueto definitely settling in after that first inning.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jun 12, 2012 8:21pm
hoops23;1197247 wrote:Series thread is going just fine, thanks.
Cool go use it then. So this thread can be about the game. Christ
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jun 12, 2012 8:24pm
Midstate01;1197251 wrote:Cool go use it then. So this thread can be about the game. Christ
You mad bro?
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jun 12, 2012 8:25pm
Gomez gets a hit.
Pitchers are 2/4 right now. Cleanup hitters are 0/4.
Suck it DHs.
Pitchers are 2/4 right now. Cleanup hitters are 0/4.
Suck it DHs.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jun 12, 2012 8:26pm
OMG! How rich!
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 12, 2012 8:28pm
The two improvements that would improve the MLB product are Eliminate the DH and call balls and strikes intentionally. Scoring will go up because there are a lot of hitters that have an excellent eye that is way undervalued because of the poor balls and strike calls which makes their great skill reduced to chance value. Then the pitcher, instead of legitimately working the hitter, and navigating the line-up from inning to inning, spends most of his intelligence and skill on trying to see where the ump gives him strikes he doesn't deserve and exploiting the hitters, especially those who have the keen batting eyes who should be the really valuable players. That is the crux of the game to have the pitchers and hitters have a fair confrontation!
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 12, 2012 8:36pm
Sliding to the outside of the base paid dividends for Heisey on the SB.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 12, 2012 8:38pm
and a shitty throw from Santana seemed to helpmhs95_06;1197268 wrote:Sliding to the outside of the base paid dividends for Heisey on the SB.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jun 12, 2012 8:38pm
BP doesn't ground into a double play! My feet feel cold underneath me. Possible that hell has frozen over?
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 12, 2012 8:38pm
Get Bruce an anti anxiety pill!
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jun 12, 2012 8:39pm
And Bruce gets the run in. Didn't think he got it deep enough, but it does the job.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 12, 2012 8:40pm
Right! He is still out though if he doesn't use his head and slides into the middle of the base.wes_mantooth;1197269 wrote:and a ****ty throw from Santana seemed to help
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jun 12, 2012 8:41pm
Right on! As little guys, who were your best hitters? The guys who could pitch. Then the DH took all that away.sherm03;1197250 wrote:Maybe that's why pitchers suck so bad at hitting when they are in the majors. If we do away with the DH rule in Little League, HS, and college...more pitchers would be able to hit in the majors.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 12, 2012 8:42pm
If Gomez gets out of this game only giving up 2 runs, it will be a minor miracle. He blows.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jun 12, 2012 8:43pm
Great pitch selection on the first to Ludwick and he's behind the 8-ball.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jun 12, 2012 9:03pm
They almost never take BP either. Step in the box and give it a go atleast. Ive watched guys like Wainwright not even try in his AB'sMaybe that's why pitchers suck so bad at hitting when they are in the majors. If we do away with the DH rule in Little League, HS, and college...more pitchers would be able to hit in the majors.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jun 12, 2012 9:07pm
Well done Cueto
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jun 12, 2012 9:07pm
DH in Little League?hoops23;1197224 wrote:The NL is the only league without a DH to my knowledge. Little League, HS, College, MiLB, all have DH.
This isn't the 1930's. I want to see the best hitters available hitting.
You got your slugging DH up in the 9th with the bases loaded in a tie game... There's no strategy in how the other team approaches that?
Let's say you have the pitcher up int he same scenario, instead you send a PH batting .210 to the plate. Exciting.