Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 3:03pm
Nope. Injured. But he is available. Obviously Italy hoping they dont need him. If they are tied or behind, Id say we see him in the 60-70th minute.like_that;1203470 wrote:Is Ballotelli playing? My damn feed isn't working smh.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2012 3:21pm
Goal for Italy, just what they needed. Should results hold, Italy and Spain advance with the Italians winning the group.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 18, 2012 3:24pm
Italy can't be content with their 1-0 lead. It bit them in the ass the last 2 games they played. Spain will probably increase their tempo now that they know winning the group isn't secured.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 18, 2012 3:31pm
Power went out in the storm so I missed the goal...
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 3:39pm
Header off a corner. Off of Given, and Damien Duff cleared it off the line into the crossbar and clear. But it ha just gone over the line before Duff cleared it. I thought they may need to use the 4th official for once, but the referees were all over it from the start. Definite, but close, goal.hoops23;1203497 wrote:Power went out in the storm so I missed the goal...
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jun 18, 2012 3:52pm
Come on Spain, want you to win the Group so you stay on the opposite side of the bracket.
Or lose I guess so you miss the knockout round...I'm confusing myself.
Or lose I guess so you miss the knockout round...I'm confusing myself.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2012 4:01pm
Wowww, Croatia almost scores. That would certainly be the upset of the tournament!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 4:03pm
Casillas was huge there. What a save.
chicago510
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Jun 18, 2012 4:05pm
In the 3 way tie what is the tiebreaker? Right now Spain and Croatia lead in Goal Diff.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 18, 2012 4:06pm
gorocks99;1203488 wrote:Goal for Italy, just what they needed. Should results hold, Italy and Spain advance with the Italians winning the group.
I thought Italy has to win by 3 to advance if the other game was a tie?
That's what someone said the other day on here...
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2012 4:07pm
Here's how ESPN explains it:chicago510;1203534 wrote:In the 3 way tie what is the tiebreaker? Right now Spain and Croatia lead in Goal Diff.
"if these current results hold creating a three-way tie at 5 pts among Italy, Spain and Croatia, the three matches among the tied teams would be: Spain 1 Italy 1, Italy 1 Croatia 1, and Spain 0 Croatia 0.
In a three-way tie the first tiebreaker is GD in the matches involving the deadlocked teams- because all three games would have ended in ties, all three teams would have a GD in the relevant games of 0.
The next tiebreaker is goals scored in the matches involving the tied teams- if these results hold that means Italy wins the group with 2 goals scored in the pertinent contests and Spain and Croatia would be tied with 1 goal scored.
The next tiebreaker would then be GD in all group games which would make Spain the runner-up."
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 18, 2012 4:08pm
Someone wanna give a brief tie breaker rundown...for whatever reason I haven't researched it yet lol
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 4:10pm
I think it is so dumb that they got rid of Goal Differential for the 1st tiebreaker.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jun 18, 2012 4:10pm
Ok...so they throw Ireland out and re-run the tiebreakers? Thats how it sounds to me.
chicago510
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Jun 18, 2012 4:11pm
- Italy win, Croatia 0-0 Spain - Italy first, Spain second
- Italy win 1-0 or 2-0, Croatia 1-1 Spain - Spain first, Croatia second
- Italy win by two clear goals and score at least three, Croatia 1-1 Spain - Spain first, Italy second
- Italy win by four or more and score at least five, Croatia 1-1 Spain - Italy first, Spain second
- Italy win, Croatia 2-2 Spain - Spain first, Croatia second
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 18, 2012 4:12pm
Here's an idea. Get rid of ties.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2012 4:13pm
Pretty much. In a three-way tie scenario, the tiebreakers are:chicago510;1203541 wrote:Ok...so they throw Ireland out and re-run the tiebreakers? Thats how it sounds to me.
1. Goal differential in games involving the three teams (Italy v Spain, Italy v Croatia, Spain v Croatia)
2. Goals scored in games involving the three teams (Italy v Spain, Italy v Croatia, Spain v Croatia)
3. Goal differential in all group games (here's where Ireland enters the picture)
In a two-way tie, head-to-head is the first tiebreak, which is why Greece advanced over Russia from Group A.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 4:15pm
That would be a bad, bad idea. Only time ties are stupid is when its a friendly match, and who gives a fuck what the end result is.wildcats20;1203543 wrote:Here's an idea. Get rid of ties.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2012 4:17pm
Anyone else hoping for a Croatian miracle? Spain is fun to watch but it would be a HUGE upset if the Spanish went down now and missed the knockout stages.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 4:19pm
Not at all. Germany being the only top tier (imo) team left would suck.gorocks99;1203552 wrote:Anyone else hoping for a Croatian miracle? Spain is fun to watch but it would be a HUGE upset if the Spanish went down now and missed the knockout stages.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 18, 2012 4:20pm
Laley23;1203550 wrote:That would be a bad, bad idea. Only time ties are stupid is when its a friendly match, and who gives a fuck what the end result is.
Ties are always stupid.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2012 4:22pm
Coming from an NL guy like yourself, thats surprising to hear. It adds 3x more excitement and strategy to tournaments/qualifying/league matches.wildcats20;1203557 wrote:Ties are always stupid.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 18, 2012 4:23pm
Laley23;1203558 wrote:Coming from an NL guy like yourself, thats surprising to hear. It adds 3x more excitement and strategy to tournaments/qualifying/league matches.
Here's a strategy. WIN. lol
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 18, 2012 4:25pm
Anyway. How is this game only 1-0???
Not watching obviously, but I'm looking at the stats. On paper it looks like it should be something like 3 or 4
Not watching obviously, but I'm looking at the stats. On paper it looks like it should be something like 3 or 4
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jun 18, 2012 4:28pm
Desperate Croatia against timid Spain. Who will prevail? Italy also only one Irish miracle from being out.