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Dec 22, 2009 9:57 AM
Todd McShay stated in an article in the Columbus Dispatch that he recommends that both Heyward and Gibson should stay next year.
Dec 22, 2009 9:57am
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Dec 22, 2009 10:11 AM
wkfan wrote: Todd McShay stated in an article in the Columbus Dispatch that he recommends that both Heyward and Gibson should stay next year.
But he also said Heyward is a 1st rounder and Gibons is a 1st-2nd rounder. So I don't know why he would say they should return after saying that.
Dec 22, 2009 10:11am
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Dec 22, 2009 10:24 AM
Because Todd, like I, probably believes those guys can get themselves into the top 15 picks with another year.
Dec 22, 2009 10:24am
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Dec 22, 2009 10:54 AM
Just to put it into perspective, and probably something that these guys are looking at, here is a link to the rookie pay scale:

http://realgm.com/src_rookiescale.php

I'm kind of in the dark as to the upcoming labor agreement, but many people seem to think that the rookie scale will decrease significantly, and there is a chance of a holdout next year.

So in a way it might make sense to go ahead and leave if you are a 1st rounder, also you get to free agency much quicker.
Dec 22, 2009 10:54am
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Dec 22, 2009 3:38 PM
I'm speaking only if they come out early will some of these guys not be drafted, I agree if the marginal ones play another year in college that all will get drafted. But I'm one of those who said Brian Hartline would not get drafted, so what do I know.
Dec 22, 2009 3:38pm
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Dec 22, 2009 4:04 PM
They would all get drafted this year.
Dec 22, 2009 4:04pm
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0311sdp

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Dec 23, 2009 10:31 AM
I don't think so, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just don't see Browning, Sanzenbacher, and the two corners being drafted. Remember they only draft 7 rounds anymore or about 224 players, I just don't think that right now these guys are among the best 200 players available across the whole country.
Dec 23, 2009 10:31am
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Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM
I'd be happy if Chekwa was gone. His play makes me sick. Maybe give Jamie Wood a shot next year.
Dec 23, 2009 10:37am
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Dec 23, 2009 12:14 PM
I'm not defending anyone. But I don't understand when people say something like, "I can't wait until Chekwa is gone. His play makes me sick."

I'm not saying he's a standout, but there is a reason he is playing. It's because he's the best OSU has to offer. So you bench him for someone worse?
Dec 23, 2009 12:14pm
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Dec 23, 2009 12:30 PM
Wood has a lot of potential..if you watch the games you see that Chekwas play is...pretty bad. He is consistently getting beat and missing tackles and is the weak-link in the defense IMO.I think Russel should be starting over him.Torrence's coverage could be better, but atleast he is a solid tackler.

Not sure if they are red-shirted or not..but they have C.J. Barnett and Jamie Wood, both if im not mistaken were recruited pretty highly out of high school. You never know unless you give them a chance. And I'm not saying you give them a chance in the Rose Bowl :P
Dec 23, 2009 12:30pm
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Dec 23, 2009 12:32 PM
I understand where you are coming from, and there are always guys that I don't like seeing either. But I think not only does it speak about that specific player, but moreso the depth at that position.

Everyone hated on Alex Boone for obvious reasons, but if there was anyone better than him, they would have played.
Dec 23, 2009 12:32pm
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0311sdp

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Dec 23, 2009 1:27 PM
thedynasty1998 wrote: I understand where you are coming from, and there are always guys that I don't like seeing either. But I think not only does it speak about that specific player, but moreso the depth at that position.

Everyone hated on Alex Boone for obvious reasons, but if there was anyone better than him, they would have played.
There probably were better players but OSU didn/t want to burn their redshirts, but that's another story, you're right these guys right now are the best they have but that doesn't mean that the NFL will draft them.
Dec 23, 2009 1:27pm
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Dec 24, 2009 12:54 PM
They should all stay to be seniors, so they can come back and win the title like lasts years group.......oh wait, nevermind.
Dec 24, 2009 12:54pm
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Dec 24, 2009 8:54 PM
cats gone wild wrote: They should all stay to be seniors, so they can come back and win the title like lasts years group.......oh wait, nevermind.
Ha ha, coming from a fan of a team that has a combined 8 losses the past two seasons (as I predicted btw!), thats pretty funny!! :)
Dec 24, 2009 8:54pm
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Dec 25, 2009 12:23 AM
Chekwa and Russell are the reasons why Colt McCoy killed the secondary last season. Notice that Malcolm Jenkins was the only guy really doing well in that game last year, but McCoy kept picking on Chekwa and it paid off for them.

Chekwa would not be drafted, along with Browning or Sanzenbacher.

Saine may be drafted based on intangibles and athleticism, but even he may be a long shot.
Dec 25, 2009 12:23am
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Dec 25, 2009 12:00 PM
centralbucksfan wrote:
cats gone wild wrote: They should all stay to be seniors, so they can come back and win the title like lasts years group.......oh wait, nevermind.
Ha ha, coming from a fan of a team that has a combined 8 losses the past two seasons (as I predicted btw!), thats pretty funny!! :)
Great comeback to my correct statement, lol.Yeah, Im sure you predicted it. Why dont you predict who will be ranked higher at the end of the year, OSU or LSU? I can guarantee you OSU will drop out of the top 10 while LSU gets in the top 10. Book it.
Dec 25, 2009 12:00pm
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Dec 25, 2009 12:53 PM
All of them will be drafted. I'll laugh when Checkwa goes in the mid rounds. He's a CB from OSU that will have a few years starting experience on successful teams. He's not as bad as many make him out to be. But that is typical of OSU fans.
Dec 25, 2009 12:53pm
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Dec 25, 2009 1:49 PM
jpake1 wrote: All of them will be drafted. I'll laugh when Checkwa goes in the mid rounds. He's a CB from OSU that will have a few years starting experience on successful teams. He's not as bad as many make him out to be. But that is typical of OSU fans.
I really don't think he is that bad at all, most of the time he just needs to turn his dang head around because he is right there.
Dec 25, 2009 1:49pm
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Dec 25, 2009 2:27 PM
Chekwa's got good speed and his coverage skills are better than people make them out to be. I don't think he'd be drafted this year but next year is certainly in the realm of possibility.
Dec 25, 2009 2:27pm
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Dec 25, 2009 3:46 PM
jpake1 wrote: All of them will be drafted. I'll laugh when Checkwa goes in the mid rounds. He's a CB from OSU that will have a few years starting experience on successful teams. He's not as bad as many make him out to be. But that is typical of OSU fans.
Checkwa's main problem...when to turn and find the ball. He has no clue in this regard. Very frustrating to watch.
Dec 25, 2009 3:46pm
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Dec 25, 2009 3:58 PM
jpake1 wrote: All of them will be drafted. I'll laugh when Checkwa goes in the mid rounds. He's a CB from OSU that will have a few years starting experience on successful teams. He's not as bad as many make him out to be. But that is typical of OSU fans.
You're not very familiar with how the draft works, are you?

Chekwa would't be drafted just because he's a corner from OSU. Experience means nothing, and if anything it hurts him because he's still barely mediocre despite his experience.

If you think Bryant Browning would be drafted, then you're an idiot. Adrien Clarke was much better than Browning, as was Bryce Bishop. They barely got drafted.
Dec 25, 2009 3:58pm
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Dec 25, 2009 6:09 PM
Rumblings on one of the OSU sites is that Gibson and Chekwa are gone -- but Heyward will be staying, along with everyone else.

If that turns out to be true, Ohio State will be fine. Although Chekwa has experience, there are some incoming guys (redshirts and freshmen) who can fill the void. With a DL and LB corps that will put intense pressure on most QBs, the DBs will likely be given some help as they grow up.

The big early test, of course, will be when Miami comes into Columbus.
Dec 25, 2009 6:09pm
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Dec 25, 2009 10:20 PM
DaBrowns41 wrote:
jpake1 wrote: All of them will be drafted. I'll laugh when Checkwa goes in the mid rounds. He's a CB from OSU that will have a few years starting experience on successful teams. He's not as bad as many make him out to be. But that is typical of OSU fans.
You're not very familiar with how the draft works, are you?

Chekwa would't be drafted just because he's a corner from OSU. Experience means nothing, and if anything it hurts him because he's still barely mediocre despite his experience.

If you think Bryant Browning would be drafted, then you're an idiot. Adrien Clarke was much better than Browning, as was Bryce Bishop. They barely got drafted.
You seriously don't think Chekwa would get drafted? LOL, and you're running around telling someone they aren't familiar with the way the draft works?!
Dec 25, 2009 10:20pm
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Dec 25, 2009 11:08 PM
Writerbuckeye wrote: Rumblings on one of the OSU sites is that Gibson and Chekwa are gone -- but Heyward will be staying, along with everyone else.

If that turns out to be true, Ohio State will be fine. Although Chekwa has experience, there are some incoming guys (redshirts and freshmen) who can fill the void. With a DL and LB corps that will put intense pressure on most QBs, the DBs will likely be given some help as they grow up.

The big early test, of course, will be when Miami comes into Columbus.
Heyward would be a fool to stay with the real possibility of a rookie salary cap next year.
Dec 25, 2009 11:08pm
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Dec 26, 2009 11:39 AM
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Heyward would be a fool to stay with the real possibility of a rookie salary cap next year.
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Heyward wouldn't be affected by the cap. He won't be a top 15 pick. He isn't listed on any draft analysis's top 30 big board.
Dec 26, 2009 11:39am