An Alzheimer's Question

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ernest_t_bass
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May 4, 2012 8:34am
First let me state that I don't know much about Alzheimer's, only what I've briefly seen on TV, so I don't know the full affects, or how realistic TV is. I saw a scenario on Grey's Anatomy (watch it with the wife, STFU), and I was wondering how people thought about the situation. I'd like to get your opinions.

Situation:

Dr. Webber's wife has Alzheimer's, and it's to the point where she NEEDS to be in a home. He puts her in a home, and within a short time, she seems to forget who he is, and has fallen in love with another man; an Alzheimer's patient as well. Dr. Webber walks in on his wife (she has little idea who he is, not to mention that he's her husband) and her new boyfriend doing it in her room. You can tell it is devastating for him, but almost like he's happy that she's happy.

Cut to the next week's episode, and you find Dr. Webber with another woman, one with whom he has flirted in the past (and she reciprocated), but he would not touch her because he was committed to his wife. Now that he has seen that his wife is with another man, he goes ahead and does the deed with this other woman.


What would you do? How do you feel about it? (Let's forget about the fact that I was watching Grey's Anatomy)
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like_that
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May 4, 2012 8:37am
ernest_t_bass;1162122 wrote:First let me state that I don't know much about Alzheimer's, only what I've briefly seen on TV, so I don't know the full affects, or how realistic TV is. I saw a scenario on Grey's Anatomy (watch it with the wife, STFU), and I was wondering how people thought about the situation. I'd like to get your opinions.

Situation:

Dr. Webber's wife has Alzheimer's, and it's to the point where she NEEDS to be in a home. He puts her in a home, and within a short time, she seems to forget who he is, and has fallen in love with another man; an Alzheimer's patient as well. Dr. Webber walks in on his wife (she has little idea who he is, not to mention that he's her husband) and her new boyfriend doing it in her room. You can tell it is devastating for him, but almost like he's happy that she's happy.

Cut to the next week's episode, and you find Dr. Webber with another woman, one with whom he has flirted in the past (and she reciprocated), but he would not touch her because he was committed to his wife. Now that he has seen that his wife is with another man, he goes ahead and does the deed with this other woman.

What would you do? How do you feel about it? (Let's forget about the fact that I was watching Grey's Anatomy)
I googled Dr. Webber's wife. I would be pretty happy with that outcome so I can bang somebody else better looking.
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hasbeen
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May 4, 2012 8:44am
like_that;1162124 wrote:I googled Dr. Webber's wife. I would be pretty happy with that outcome so I can bang somebody else better looking.

Plus uno.
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ernest_t_bass
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May 4, 2012 8:48am
like_that;1162124 wrote:I googled Dr. Webber's wife. I would be pretty happy with that outcome so I can bang somebody else better looking.
pnhasbeen;1162128 wrote:Plus uno.
LOL. We're not talking about the actual character. What would you do in YOUR life, to YOUR wife? (Even if you're not married, you can answer hypothetically).
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Raw Dawgin' it
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May 4, 2012 8:55am
My wife doesn't know who I am and is banging other men, yes I'm going to start banging other women and not feel bad.
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like_that
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May 4, 2012 8:58am
Raw Dawgin' it;1162137 wrote:My wife doesn't know who I am and is banging other men, yes I'm going to start banging other women and not feel bad.
This.

What else am I supposed to do. QQ the rest of my life?
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Raw Dawgin' it
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May 4, 2012 9:05am
like_that;1162140 wrote:This.

What else am I supposed to do. QQ the rest of my life?
Also, reps. I'd break dance if this happened to me and my wife looked like this

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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 9:34am
Others before self.

The difference between the actions of the husband and wife is that one knew they were breaking their agreement while one did not. There' no way I would be physically intimate with another person after vowing to my wife that I wouldn't. It wasn't a conditional agreement.
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like_that
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May 4, 2012 9:35am
LOL. I was waiting for Con_Alma's post.
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Raw Dawgin' it
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May 4, 2012 9:47am
Con_Alma;1162164 wrote:Others before self.

The difference between the actions of the husband and wife is that one knew they were breaking their agreement while one did not. There' no way I would be physically intimate with another person after vowing to my wife that I wouldn't. It wasn't a conditional agreement.
You'd be a ghost to your wife but still be faithful? She'd be a stranger to you and you'd still not try and find someone else?
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ernest_t_bass
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May 4, 2012 9:53am
Con, you didn't vote.
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 9:54am
Raw Dawgin' it;1162175 wrote:You'd be a ghost to your wife but still be faithful? She'd be a stranger to you and you'd still not try and find someone else?
The vow wasn't conditional.
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Manhattan Buckeye
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May 4, 2012 9:54am
Wife's maternal grandmother has had Alzheimer's for the past 12 years. It is a living death. Even in the the earlier stages of it she wouldn't know who she's speaking to, and would forget a conversation 2 minutes after it started. She's completely out of it now. It got to the point that her husband (who died in '07) couldn't stand to be in the same room with her, but he made sure she was well taken care of at the facility.

If for some reason I developed Alzheimer's at a "youngish" age, the last thing I would want would be for my wife to deal with it for 40+ years or so and let my affliction destroy her life as well.
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 9:54am
ernest_t_bass;1162181 wrote:Con, you didn't vote.
I rarely do.
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ernest_t_bass
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May 4, 2012 9:54am
like_that;1162165 wrote:LOL. I was waiting for Con_Alma's post.
Raw Dawgin' it;1162175 wrote:You'd be a ghost to your wife but still be faithful? She'd be a stranger to you and you'd still not try and find someone else?
This is the whole "ethical" part of it, though. It truly is a situation of ethics, b/c this is one based on values, etc.
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Raw Dawgin' it
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May 4, 2012 10:09am
the relationship at that point is over. I'll visit her, but i'm moving on.
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 10:10am
Raw Dawgin' it;1162199 wrote:the relationship at that point is over. I'll visit her, but i'm moving on.
I disagree. It's simply a different relationship than before.
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sleeper
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May 4, 2012 10:11am
I'm an atheist so I have no morals. I would bang whoever, whenever, however regardless of any vows or conditions.
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like_that
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May 4, 2012 10:14am
Con_Alma;1162201 wrote:I disagree. It's simply a different relationship than before.
The relationship is over. She moved on and is banging another guy.
sleeper;1162202 wrote:I'm an atheist so I have no morals. I would bang whoever, whenever, however regardless of any vows or conditions.
STFU.
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 10:17am
like_that;1162205 wrote:The relationship is over. She moved on and is banging another guy.



STFU.
Her moving on and banging another guy doesn't end the relationship. It changes it. The relationship ends at physical death.
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like_that
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May 4, 2012 10:18am
Con_Alma;1162209 wrote:Her moving on and banging another guy doesn't end the relationship. It changes it. The relationship ends at physical death.
Well, maybe if you are a sackless pussy, but if my gf or wife is banging another guy, that means the relationship is over.
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Raw Dawgin' it
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May 4, 2012 10:19am
Con_Alma;1162201 wrote:I disagree. It's simply a different relationship than before.
Do you have relationships with strangers? What kind of relationship would you have with someone who will never know who you are? It have a great relationship with kate upton, she just doesn't know it ;)
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 10:21am
Raw Dawgin' it;1162213 wrote:Do you have relationships with strangers? What kind of relationship would you have with someone who will never know who you are? It have a great relationship with kate upton, she just doesn't know it ;)
I'm not married to strangers. If I were married to someone and they then became unable to know who I was, I would still have a relationship with them, yes. My role would be very different in their lives but it wouldn't change the commitment I made to them.
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Con_Alma
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May 4, 2012 10:22am
like_that;1162212 wrote:Well, maybe if you are a sackless ****, but if my gf or wife is banging another guy, that means the relationship is over.
I'm sure it would mean it was over for you. I'm not answering for you. I am answering for me. Being married isn't solely about who I choose to be intimate with.
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sleeper
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May 4, 2012 10:22am
like_that;1162205 wrote:The relationship is over. She moved on and is banging another guy.



STFU.
Yes like_that, I even bang your mom.