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May 3, 2012 3:39 PM
sleeper;1161541 wrote:Gosh a ruddies; let's label people R's and D's and only vote for R's and D's no matter the issue.

That sounds like a winning strategy isadore.
well with your stand on sterilization, you might check for the National Socialist candidate.
May 3, 2012 3:39pm
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May 3, 2012 3:40 PM
sleeper;1161542 wrote:Well someone has to increase the standard of living for all Americans by taking a risk and earning a profit for their work.

If your world, we'd all get poorer and have a lower standard of living, but we'd all be equal. Sign me up! :rolleyes:
what a bunch of baloney, heck people invested and took risks when the top tax rate was 90%
May 3, 2012 3:40pm
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May 3, 2012 3:41 PM
isadore;1161547 wrote:well with your stand on sterilization, you might check for the National Socialist candidate.
The Democrats are already running Barack Obama. I'll pass and vote for someone who will make the poor work like the rest of us instead of sitting at home and watching Oprah.
May 3, 2012 3:41pm
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May 3, 2012 3:42 PM
isadore;1161548 wrote:what a bunch of baloney, heck people invested and took risks when the top tax rate was 90%
Yeah, and hid it all. Behaviors change isadore. The rich are rich because they are smart. Change the tax rate to 100% and you'd still complain because you can't fix stupid, not even with giving them $1,000,000 per year to live on; they will still complain.
May 3, 2012 3:42pm
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May 3, 2012 3:43 PM
isadore;1161546 wrote:i knew tons of people in that situation when I was in school. And it is not true poverty by along shot.
You can't be serious...family of four, on their own, <$13k income...please explain to me how that is not 'true poverty'. I would love to hear it since I lived it.

I was a typical college student for awhile, living at home, etc and you're correct, even though I only made about $8000 those years I was not truly poor.

However, when I made the decision to get married and have kids, and THEN go back to school full time...I most definitely was in poverty.
May 3, 2012 3:43pm
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May 3, 2012 3:46 PM
sleeper;1161550 wrote:The Democrats are already running Barack Obama. I'll pass and vote for someone who will make the poor work like the rest of us instead of sitting at home and watching Oprah.
if you are just going to repeat yourself with the Oprah stuff, put some quotations around or something.
May 3, 2012 3:46pm
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May 3, 2012 3:46 PM
jmog;1161555 wrote:You can't be serious...family of four, on their own, <$13k income...please explain to me how that is not 'true poverty'. I would love to hear it since I lived it.

I was a typical college student for awhile, living at home, etc and you're correct, even though I only made about $8000 those years I was not truly poor.

However, when I made the decision to get married and have kids, and THEN go back to school full time...I most definitely was in poverty.
At 13k income you made more than people who made zero. Therefore you are rich and should give your money to the less fortunate.

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May 3, 2012 3:46pm
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May 3, 2012 3:47 PM
isadore;1161560 wrote:if you are just going to repeat yourself with the Oprah stuff, put some quotations around or something.
Whatever they are watching is irrelevant. They aren't working because they are lazy/stupid or both. Combine those two, and they are poor and accountable for being poor to no one but themselves.
May 3, 2012 3:47pm
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May 3, 2012 3:48 PM
sleeper;1161553 wrote:Yeah, and hid it all. Behaviors change isadore. The rich are rich because they are smart. Change the tax rate to 100% and you'd still complain because you can't fix stupid, not even with giving them $1,000,000 per year to live on; they will still complain.
I have know alot of stupid people who have alot of money and alot of smart folks who have little. They should try your last suggestion and find out.
May 3, 2012 3:48pm
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May 3, 2012 3:49 PM
isadore;1161565 wrote:I have know alot of stupid people who have alot of money and alot of smart folks who have little. They should try your last suggestion and find out.
That's an extremely racist comment isadore. Are you implying black people are only rich because they sell drugs on the side?

Gosh a ruddies.
May 3, 2012 3:49pm
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May 3, 2012 3:49 PM
jmog;1161555 wrote:You can't be serious...family of four, on their own, <$13k income...please explain to me how that is not 'true poverty'. I would love to hear it since I lived it.

I was a typical college student for awhile, living at home, etc and you're correct, even though I only made about $8000 those years I was not truly poor.

However, when I made the decision to get married and have kids, and THEN go back to school full time...I most definitely was in poverty.
no you weren't. again an obvious short term transient situation.
Just to settle my own curiousity, when was this.
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May 3, 2012 3:52 PM
sleeper;1161562 wrote:Whatever they are watching is irrelevant. They aren't working because they are lazy/stupid or both. Combine those two, and they are poor and accountable for being poor to no one but themselves.
If its irrelevant why do you repeatedly bring it up. You keep writing it. If something you repeat again and again is irrelevant, how can we judge your other statements, Are they all irrelevant?
May 3, 2012 3:52pm
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May 3, 2012 3:55 PM
isadore;1161572 wrote:If its irrelevant why do you repeatedly bring it up. You keep writing it. If something you repeat again and again is irrelevant, how can we judge your other statements, Are they all irrelevant?
They are irrelevant because you can substitute Oprah for NPR and it would still be as useless as sitting at home eating cheese.

My other statements are valid. The poor are poor because they are stupid. Giving them money to sit on their ass does nothing for them and nothing for America. I thought you were better than that.
May 3, 2012 3:55pm
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May 3, 2012 4:05 PM
sleeper;1161576 wrote:The poor are poor because they are stupid.
Actually, they're smarter than you give them credit for. Go bust hump at McD's for $7 an honor, or suck $10/hr from the govt teet sitting at home on your ass? Only a moron would take the McD's job. And when you want the gubmit to give you a raise, just pop-out another kid.
May 3, 2012 4:05pm
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May 3, 2012 4:07 PM
gut;1161599 wrote:Actually, they're smarter than you give them credit for. Go bust hump at McD's for $7 an honor, or suck $10/hr from the govt teet sitting at home on your ass? Only a moron would take the McD's job. And when you want the gubmit to give you a raise, just pop-out another kid.
Only a liberal would do what you describe. There used to be a thing called pride in America, now its just a bunch of sloths voting for Obama and leeching the system.
May 3, 2012 4:07pm
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May 3, 2012 4:07 PM
Nobody suggested NPR or anything but you and Oprah, again and again you fixated on Oprah, why are you fixated on Oprah.
The poor are poor for many reasons. Age and disability are major ones that have nothing to do with intelligence.
May 3, 2012 4:07pm
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May 3, 2012 4:08 PM
isadore;1161604 wrote:Nobody suggested NPR or anything but you and Oprah, again and again you fixated on Oprah, why are you fixated on Oprah.
The poor are poor for many reasons. Age and disability are major ones that have nothing to do with intelligence.
Oprah was black so she was poor and became rich. A black man become president. The poor and blacks have no one to blame but themselves for being poor.

Of course, you being a racist don't think black people are smart.
May 3, 2012 4:08pm
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May 3, 2012 4:10 PM
sleeper;1161605 wrote:Oprah was black so she was poor and became rich. A black man become president. The poor and blacks have no one to blame but themselves for being poor.

Of course, you being a racist don't think black people are smart.
only among the heartless paulites, randites and republicans
May 3, 2012 4:10pm
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May 3, 2012 4:11 PM
isadore;1161606 wrote:only among the heartless paulites, randites and republicans
Isadore, why do you think minorities aren't smart enough to get a job? I think they can do it, you seem unconvinced.
May 3, 2012 4:11pm
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May 3, 2012 5:03 PM
Sleeper, you of all people should realize that we NEVER feed the trolls. ;)
May 3, 2012 5:03pm
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May 3, 2012 5:03 PM
isadore;1161569 wrote:no you weren't. again an obvious short term transient situation.
Just to settle my own curiousity, when was this.
2003-2005, I would say 3 years isn't so "short term"
May 3, 2012 5:03pm
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May 3, 2012 5:46 PM
sleeper;1161610 wrote:Isadore, why do you think minorities aren't smart enough to get a job? I think they can do it, you seem unconvinced.
I think rich racist wont hire them.
May 3, 2012 5:46pm
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May 3, 2012 5:47 PM
isadore;1161667 wrote:I think rich racist wont hire them.
Maybe he should start his own company and make his own money. I wouldn't hire a minority, I mean are you kidding? Isadore, you have a job, would you hire someone with a different skin color?
May 3, 2012 5:47pm
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May 3, 2012 5:49 PM
jmog;1161649 wrote:2003-2005, I would say 3 years isn't so "short term"
of course it is, as you set there with your degree already and were just on a countdown to big bucks.
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May 3, 2012 5:50 PM
sleeper;1161668 wrote:Maybe he should start his own company and make his own money. I wouldn't hire a minority, I mean are you kidding? Isadore, you have a job, would you hire someone with a different skin color?
why not.
May 3, 2012 5:50pm