Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 30, 2012 9:30pm
No doubt, bunch of QQing chicken littles.hoops23;1158147 wrote: You guys would have bitched about who we took anyway.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 9:31pm
We didn't trade him for a 5th and 7th...just because we made up the 4th round pick in another trade doesn't mean we didn't get the 4th rounder for him lolhoops23;1158146 wrote:We gave up a 5th and a 7th round pick for Trent Richardson. Are you seriously bitching?
We basically got the 4th round pick back when we traded down in the 3rd round.
My god.
We just didn't have 2 4th round picks like we should have.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 30, 2012 9:32pm
I agree, especially since Weeden is not going to be as good as Brees.wes_mantooth;1158085 wrote:I kinda agree, but there is no excuse to have that many drops....we need to upgrade somewhat
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 30, 2012 9:34pm
SportsAndLady;1158152 wrote:We didn't trade him for a 5th and 7th...just because we made up the 4th round pick in another trade doesn't mean we didn't get the 4th rounder for him lol
We just didn't have 2 4th round picks like we should have.
We still had 2 4th rounders dip shit. Your not even a true browns fan. All you do is bitch. What real fan says they would rather go 2-14 than 7-9
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 30, 2012 9:43pm
lol this. We got our guy. Those picks likely wouldn't have made the team anyway.hoops23;1158147 wrote:And who the fuck cares if we gave up a 4th, 5th, and 7th.. You guys would have bitched about who we took anyway.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 30, 2012 9:45pm
You're*Crimson streak;1158158 wrote:We still had 2 4th rounders dip shit. Your not even a true browns fan. All you do is bitch. What real fan says they would rather go 2-14 than 7-9
Also, what makes you think it is your place to tell somebody if they are a true fan or not?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 9:49pm
How the fuck did we draft Travis Benjamin and James-Michael Johnson if we didn't have two 4th round picks?SportsAndLady;1158152 wrote:We didn't trade him for a 5th and 7th...just because we made up the 4th round pick in another trade doesn't mean we didn't get the 4th rounder for him lol
We just didn't have 2 4th round picks like we should have.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 30, 2012 9:55pm
that is my theory as well, but when I actually look at our roster...they may have been starters...lmaosleeper;1158168 wrote:lol this. We got our guy. Those picks likely wouldn't have made the team anyway.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 10:08pm
Because we would have had 3 4th round picks if we didn't get fleeced by Minnesotahoops23;1158178 wrote:How the fuck did we draft Travis Benjamin and James-Michael Johnson if we didn't have two 4th round picks?
3>2
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 10:09pm
James Michael Johnson and Benjamin are expected to do good things for this team, this year. Imagine if we could have gotten another one of those players on our depleted roster.sleeper;1158168 wrote:lol this. We got our guy. Those picks likely wouldn't have made the team anyway.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 10:09pm
So because I disagree w/ a regime's draft picks, I'm not a real fan...lulzCrimson streak;1158158 wrote:We still had 2 4th rounders dip shit. Your not even a true browns fan. All you do is bitch. What real fan says they would rather go 2-14 than 7-9
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 10:12pm
lol. Minny did not fleece us. You're saying this because you hate our draft. The Browns weren't willing to let another team move up to #3 and they made the aggressive move to assure they got Trent, a guy who will help this offense more than a WR will, especially in Cleveland.SportsAndLady;1158226 wrote:Because we would have had 3 4th round picks if we didn't get fleeced by Minnesota
3>2
Getting Fleeced would have been giving up our 2nd round and next years 1st and 4th rounders.
Giving up a 4th, 5th, and 7th is not a fleecing.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 10:13pm
They're not expected to do anything. They suck.SportsAndLady;1158229 wrote:James Michael Johnson and Benjamin are expected to do good things for this team, this year. Imagine if we could have gotten another one of those players on our depleted roster.
If the Bengals drafted them, they would be good, but unfortunately, the Browns drafted them.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 30, 2012 10:13pm
Not only that, but we had ammo. 13 rookies are not making this squad, hell our 11 aren't making this squad.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 30, 2012 10:19pm
right, but that is why i am puzzled as to why they didn't trade up a couple times. Of course, that is assuming they didn't try, but couldn't find a partner.Commander of Awesome;1158243 wrote:Not only that, but we had ammo. 13 rookies are not making this squad, hell our 11 aren't making this squad.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 10:20pm
Exactly. No matter the team, there are players drafted, especially in the 6th and 7th rounds that won't make the squad. Hell, there are times when the 5th rounders don't make it.Commander of Awesome;1158243 wrote:Not only that, but we had ammo. 13 rookies are not making this squad, hell our 11 aren't making this squad.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 30, 2012 10:20pm
Me too, esp in the second/3rd when decent WRs were available. Puzzling.wes_mantooth;1158263 wrote:right, but that is why i am puzzled as to why they didn't trade up a couple times. Of course, that is assuming they didn't try, but couldn't find a partner.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 30, 2012 10:20pm
Or in the Browns case, 2nd rounders. David Fucking Veikune. SMH.hoops23;1158266 wrote:Exactly. No matter the team, there are players drafted, especially in the 6th and 7th rounds that won't make the squad. Hell, there are times when the 5th rounders don't make it.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 30, 2012 10:23pm
And if Kendall Wright was their guy, I don't like that they didn't use some of that ammo that they def had to move up and grab him. With that being said, I was never a fan of him, but I would have rather them get their guy...like they did with Trich
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 10:25pm
hoops23;1158238 wrote:lol. Minny did not fleece us. You're saying this because you hate our draft. The Browns weren't willing to let another team move up to #3 and they made the aggressive move to assure they got Trent, a guy who will help this offense more than a WR will, especially in Cleveland.
Getting Fleeced would have been giving up our 2nd round and next years 1st and 4th rounders.
Giving up a 4th, 5th, and 7th is not a fleecing.
FleecedA few days ago, CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman, writing on the draft trade that allowed the Browns to switch first-round spots with Vikings by giving up three later draft picks, said that Cleveland “bought what the Vikings were cooking and suckers were born.”
The reason for the trade in the first place was so that the Browns could be assured that Alabama running back Trent Richardson would be available for them to take, and Freeman hears that that the Vikings were bluffing about other teams' interest in moving into their No. 3 spot.
Wrote Freeman: “Cleveland was convinced at least several teams were prepared to leap them when by all accounts that wasn't going to happen. Even one day later, some teams around the league remain totally perplexed at the Browns giving up three picks to move one spot when they didn't have to.”
hoops23
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Apr 30, 2012 10:26pm
lol, yea... And Robiskie.Commander of Awesome;1158269 wrote:Or in the Browns case, 2nd rounders. David Fucking Veikune. SMH.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 30, 2012 10:26pm
Lol Benjamin is definitely expected to be pretty good. He was "our answer" at WR by this regime.hoops23;1158242 wrote:They're not expected to do anything. They suck.
If the Bengals drafted them, they would be good, but unfortunately, the Browns drafted them.
JMJ I'm actually expecting big things because I think he was a steal and a good pick.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 10:29pm
It's not a fleece. Heckert said he felt some team would try to move up to #3. We all know how much Tampa loved Trent. I'm sure there were some others as well.SportsAndLady;1158285 wrote:Fleeced
Regardless, the Browns didn't take the chance to lose him. I have no problem with that.
Again, we have up a 4th, 5th, and 7th... Basically got the 4th back.... You're trying to hard.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 30, 2012 10:30pm
Nope. They suckSportsAndLady;1158288 wrote:Lol Benjamin is definitely expected to be pretty good. He was "our answer" at WR by this regime.
JMJ I'm actually expecting big things because I think he was a steal and a good pick.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 30, 2012 10:31pm
I was actually high on that pick...lolfail on me. SMH. Veikune I hate from the sec I heard his name, hated even more when I saw him in TC. Seriously in TC you'd think the guy never put pn pads before. He was HORRIBLE.hoops23;1158287 wrote:lol, yea... And Robiskie.