Grade the Browns 2012 Draft

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BR1986FB
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Apr 30, 2012 3:09pm
SportsAndLady;1157805 wrote:How often do you frequent the website zootube.com? Lmao
Not familiar with it but I did see you started your own site, whippedlikeapussy.org
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Apr 30, 2012 3:12pm
BR1986FB;1157789 wrote:Correct when I can do the SAME thing from home WHILE making money.

Perhaps I'll explain it in a language you'll understand...

#winwin :rolleyes:
There's more to life than making money. Sometimes its worth to take the extraordinary effort of getting free tickets, driving 3 hours for a game, and then driving back home on ONE Sunday in your entire life.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 30, 2012 3:14pm
sleeper;1157813 wrote:There's more to life than making money. Sometimes its worth to take the extraordinary effort of getting free tickets, driving 3 hours for a game, and then driving back home on ONE Sunday in your entire life.
Perhaps one day...
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DeyDurkie5
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Apr 30, 2012 3:15pm
I love the browns
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Apr 30, 2012 3:19pm
DeyDurkie5;1157818 wrote:I love the browns
Reps
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sleeper
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Apr 30, 2012 3:29pm
DeyDurkie5;1157818 wrote:I love the browns
Reps.
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Early Cuyler
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Apr 30, 2012 3:37pm
Working at home = selling junk on ebay/filling out surveys. Errybody knows this!
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BR1986FB
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Apr 30, 2012 3:48pm
Early Cuyler;1157835 wrote:Working at home = selling junk on ebay/filling out surveys. Errybody knows this!
LOL...I'm a director for an executive recruiting firm.
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Apr 30, 2012 3:49pm
BR1986FB;1157844 wrote:LOL...I'm a director for an executive recruiting firm.
Let me know when you are unemployed. Those jobs are scams.
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Apr 30, 2012 4:20pm
Will Burge ‏ @WillBurge League source: #Browns 3rd Rd pick John Hughes fielded multiple calls from teams @ that time & Saints were poised 2 select him 2 spots later
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Apr 30, 2012 4:22pm
DeyDurkie5;1157878 wrote:Will Burge ‏ @WillBurge League source: #Browns 3rd Rd pick John Hughes fielded multiple calls from teams @ that time & Saints were poised 2 select him 2 spots later
Wish the saints would have traded up to get him.....I haven't read one good thing about him.
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Apr 30, 2012 4:28pm
wes_mantooth;1157879 wrote:Wish the saints would have traded up to get him.....I haven't read one good thing about him.
I'm not defending the pick, just giving insight as to why they took him.
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Apr 30, 2012 4:33pm
DeyDurkie5;1157880 wrote:I'm not defending the pick, just giving insight as to why they took him.

Yeah I know. I am just shocked they did it.
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Apr 30, 2012 4:36pm
wes_mantooth;1157881 wrote:Yeah I know. I am just shocked they did it.
I look at i like this. I am not being paid to scout these players. If they think he is worth it there, then I'll believe them. I have never doubted Heckert before, and won't start now. People like Mcshay and Kiper give this notion of "sixth round talent" or "reaching"..it's all bullshit to me.
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Apr 30, 2012 5:16pm
Hughes' strength is plugging the gaps with his big frame and being a stout run stopper. That's why the Browns wanted him. Our run defense was still horrible last season. Taylor and Rubin can't play every down and be effective.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 30, 2012 5:38pm
sleeper;1157846 wrote:Let me know when you are unemployed. Those jobs are scams.
Yeah, considering I'm an owner of the company and have been with them going on 20 years....scams. :rolleyes:
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Apr 30, 2012 5:56pm
DeyDurkie5;1157882 wrote:I look at i like this. I am not being paid to scout these players. If they think he is worth it there, then I'll believe them. I have never doubted Heckert before, and won't start now. People like Mcshay and Kiper give this notion of "sixth round talent" or "reaching"..it's all bull**** to me.
I think this is the second time I've repped you today.

EDIT: Well I tried, but I gotta spread the love around. I woulda repped you ;)
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Apr 30, 2012 5:57pm
hoops23;1157895 wrote:Hughes' strength is plugging the gaps with his big frame and being a stout run stopper. That's why the Browns wanted him. Our run defense was still horrible last season. Taylor and Rubin can't play every down and be effective.
Shame on the Browns for drafting depth at a crucial position!!!
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BR1986FB
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Apr 30, 2012 6:02pm
lhslep134;1157918 wrote:I think this is the second time I've repped you today.

EDIT: Well I tried, but I gotta spread the love around. I woulda repped you ;)
Durkie's been bringing it pretty strong lately.
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Apr 30, 2012 6:13pm
BR1986FB;1157908 wrote:Yeah, considering I'm an owner of the company and have been with them going on 20 years....scams. :rolleyes:
Yeah I can make stuff up on the internet too. :rolleyes:
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Al Bundy
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Apr 30, 2012 6:15pm
DeyDurkie5;1157882 wrote:I look at i like this. I am not being paid to scout these players. If they think he is worth it there, then I'll believe them. I have never doubted Heckert before, and won't start now. People like Mcshay and Kiper give this notion of "sixth round talent" or "reaching"..it's all bull**** to me.
I have to laugh when people use Kiper, McShay, or any of the scouting services as references. These are all made of people who aren't talented enough to get hired by an NFL team.
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Apr 30, 2012 6:16pm
As an outsider, a rival fan of the steelers, I guess I will chime in.

The QB has always been one of the most important spots on the field, and nowadays it is evern more so. The passing game is more important now than ever before in the league. Running attacks and being a great team because of running has really taken a backseat. Peterson and the VIkes took off when Favre was there. Gore in SF was great, but it wasnt until Smith started to be able to win games did they take the next step.

The browns were horrible at WR and I think that should have been their first pick. Richardson, yeah, he is good, but you guys needed to go WR eary and often. The old QB thing......well, I am not going to say anything other than if a team with a great track record of drafting guys gets him then maybe it gets talked about as a good move, but the browns dont have that luxury.
I think the jury is still out on McCoy. WHen you dont have any wideouts to throw to and have a scheme on offense that looks like it is week one in the preseason, it is hard to really stand out.

The defense was really good last year, and that is hard to do when the offense is was as bad as it was.


I have to agree....some headscratching moments there for the browns.

So that probably means they will prove everyone wrong
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thavoice
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Apr 30, 2012 6:18pm
Al Bundy;1157928 wrote:I have to laugh when people use Kiper, McShay, or any of the scouting services as references. These are all made of people who aren't talented enough to get hired by an NFL team.
Ya know..I dont have much love for those pundits, but they have watched more film on the guys than everyone on the OC combined. Do they miss on some? Sure they do. thing is..when it is all said and done no one really remembers what the hell they say. They have a perfect job with no accountability to what they say or evaluate players.
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Al Bundy
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Apr 30, 2012 6:27pm
thavoice;1157932 wrote:Ya know..I dont have much love for those pundits, but they have watched more film on the guys than everyone on the OC combined. Do they miss on some? Sure they do. thing is..when it is all said and done no one really remembers what the hell they say. They have a perfect job with no accountability to what they say or evaluate players.
I am not saying that people on the OC know more, but people in the NFL do. If these guys could accurately predict what every player was going to do, there are many owners that would pay them millions.
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Apr 30, 2012 6:32pm
DeyDurkie5;1157878 wrote:Will Burge ‏ @WillBurge League source: #Browns 3rd Rd pick John Hughes fielded multiple calls from teams @ that time & Saints were poised 2 select him 2 spots later
That's not shocking considering they took a dude from Canada in another pick that everyone hated instead.