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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Apr 18, 2012 7:17pm
Oh no the school now has two make another diesicion on another student. Let the student present their case and make a ruling a half hour outta the school boards year is worth it for a student to get a once in a lifetime opportunity. If the girl did miss days to help her parents who were in a serious car rep she should walk as well.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 18, 2012 7:20pm
Yeah and if the kid went through 4 years and didn't pass English his last year, he should walk too.
No wonder our education system is the laughing stock of the civilized world. Walking at graduation used to mean something, now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.
No wonder our education system is the laughing stock of the civilized world. Walking at graduation used to mean something, now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 18, 2012 7:32pm
Hell even I have one somewhere.sleeper;1147318 wrote:now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 18, 2012 7:40pm
They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.Steel Valley Football;1147283 wrote:And I said, as did others, that schools are not in the business of judging the circumstances of every absence, tardiness, fight, illegal possession, offensive shirt, sexist comment, etc because they are not a court system.
I also said that doing so would set a precedence and bring others with similar claims trying to get an exception to the rule....and abracafuckingdabra look what happened.
You also said that it was such a rare case in such a small school that there wouldn't be other similar cases. To which I replied what if a student's mother was in a car accident and felt they deserved the same exception. I said all it would do is open a bigger can of worms and I was spot on.
I'm not trying to gloat, but get a fucking clue.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 18, 2012 9:45pm
Steel Valley Football;1147287 wrote:GOAT poster.
Except Justin. I changed my mind and agree with everything he posts. Now and any time in the future.
Why?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 18, 2012 9:46pm
SVF received threats after your disagreement. Very mean threats.justincredible;1147522 wrote:Why?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 9:47pm
You made a massive change in the situation there though.sleeper;1147318 wrote:Yeah and if the kid went through 4 years and didn't pass English his last year, he should walk too.
No wonder our education system is the laughing stock of the civilized world. Walking at graduation used to mean something, now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.
If the kid doesn't pass the classes then not only should he not walk he shouldn't get his diploma. No Child Left Behind and crap like that are killing our education system. We need to be holding kids back if they do not meet requirements instead of just shoving them through without them learning anything.
That's completely different than a kid who passed the requirements for grades but had to care for his parent so missed more days than most. If you have the grades you should walk.
And walking at graduation didn't use to mean anything in the past either. Graduating high school is not an accomplishment.
Go4alOngbOmB
Posts: 673
Apr 19, 2012 3:35am
If my mother at that stage in my life, would have had any type of ANYTHING.....that would threaten her life, and she needed me....I would be there no matter what.
But then again, I had amazing parents....who I care about and love to this day and forever.
As for how the school board is treating this, if the kid had to have 2 jobs to help support his Mom in a single income household...he did what was right. If that story holds true, you get your diploma, even if it is through the mail, and you hang your head HIGH son. You are already more mature than 2/3 of the kids your own age.... and I will only WISH that the other 2/3 can get a clue before it is too late.
But then again, I had amazing parents....who I care about and love to this day and forever.
As for how the school board is treating this, if the kid had to have 2 jobs to help support his Mom in a single income household...he did what was right. If that story holds true, you get your diploma, even if it is through the mail, and you hang your head HIGH son. You are already more mature than 2/3 of the kids your own age.... and I will only WISH that the other 2/3 can get a clue before it is too late.
scoreboard
Posts: 326
Apr 19, 2012 8:02am
If you're not first, you're last /Ricky Bobby'dCurly J;1145556 wrote:Second place is the first loser. /Dale Earnhardt'd
scoreboard
Posts: 326
Apr 19, 2012 8:05am
sportchampps;1147313 wrote:Oh no the school now has two make another diesicion on another student. Let the student present their case and make a ruling a half hour outta the school boards year is worth it for a student to get a once in a lifetime opportunity. If the girl did miss days to help her parents who were in a serious car rep she should walk as well.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 10:08am
reps.friendfromlowry;1147328 wrote:Hell even I have one somewhere.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 10:10am
I don't see it as being any different. There are requirements for passing high school, and a kid missing more than the allocated absences should be enough to disqualify him from graduating. You say hold them back, but yet you support a kid missing all those days walking. He didn't pass the requirements to graduate, period.I Wear Pants;1147526 wrote:You made a massive change in the situation there though.
If the kid doesn't pass the classes then not only should he not walk he shouldn't get his diploma. No Child Left Behind and crap like that are killing our education system. We need to be holding kids back if they do not meet requirements instead of just shoving them through without them learning anything.
That's completely different than a kid who passed the requirements for grades but had to care for his parent so missed more days than most. If you have the grades you should walk.
And walking at graduation didn't use to mean anything in the past either. Graduating high school is not an accomplishment.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 19, 2012 10:51am
Apparently he DID meet the requirements to graduate, just not to walk at the graduation.sleeper;1147848 wrote:I don't see it as being any different. There are requirements for passing high school, and a kid missing more than the allocated absences should be enough to disqualify him from graduating. You say hold them back, but yet you support a kid missing all those days walking. He didn't pass the requirements to graduate, period.
I just dont understand that if this kid, and the other one that just came forward, was REALLY missing all this school due to a parent accident, or the cancer treatments, then why didnt they tell the school and such?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 11:02am
Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.thavoice;1147878 wrote:Apparently he DID meet the requirements to graduate, just not to walk at the graduation.
I just dont understand that if this kid, and the other one that just came forward, was REALLY missing all this school due to a parent accident, or the cancer treatments, then why didnt they tell the school and such?
Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 19, 2012 11:03am
I agree totally. I mentioned it in another post in this thread that at my HS graduation us senior baseball players got out diploma's within 5 minutes and left because we had a baseball game. All the other kids who had to sit there through it all were jealous!sleeper;1147888 wrote:Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 19, 2012 11:38am
Let's see. During my graduation, it was rainy, so we had to be indoors. And it was humid, so it was pretty miserable indoors. While wearing the black robe-gown dealie and sitting for a long time waiting for people to stop fucking talking and start saying names so I could fucking get my fucking diploma and quietly sit back down (because, you know, the formal ceremony of the thing...no having fun allowed).sleeper;1147888 wrote:Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.
Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.
In other words, it's a stupid fucking thing only to benefit parents who want to see their kid looking all nice as they achieve this huge life milestone. If it was purely up to me, I could have found a million things to do that'd be more entertaining.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Apr 19, 2012 12:56pm
too*sleeper;1147888 wrote:Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 19, 2012 3:29pm
se-alum;1147332 wrote:They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.
Everything you've described is an on-the-spot decision - the situation with this student was not that. Had he brought an excuse the day after each absence, then maybe it would be viewed differently by the school admins. Based on everything I've read, he didn't do anything like that; his missed days were cumulative an unexcused.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 19, 2012 3:32pm
se-alum;1147332 wrote:They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.
That's one person's opinion and that's fine, but it's irrelevant to the current situation. School policy is made based on years of experiences by a group of people voted in by the community. If the community wants a change in school policy, it can most certainly happen via the proper channels.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 19, 2012 3:33pm
It's probably just easier that way.justincredible;1147522 wrote:Why?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 19, 2012 3:53pm
Also, it isnt like those appointments would be the spur of the moment. There is no reason why his mother could not have informed the school beforehand.Steel Valley Football;1148100 wrote:Everything you've described is an on-the-spot decision - the situation with this student was not that. Had he brought an excuse the day after each absence, then maybe it would be viewed differently by the school admins. Based on everything I've read, he didn't do anything like that; his missed days were cumulative an unexcused.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 19, 2012 4:09pm
Yeah his lazy mother should have been worrying about calling the secretary at the school instead of focusing on not fucking dying.thavoice;1148128 wrote:Also, it isnt like those appointments would be the spur of the moment. There is no reason why his mother could not have informed the school beforehand.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Apr 19, 2012 11:30pm
Actually a few high schools will let a student walk even if he failed a class his senior year. All the student has to do is enroll in summer school for that class and they will let him walk with his class.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 20, 2012 12:17pm
Steel Valley Football;1146146 wrote:Calling an administration stupid and lazy, while not proposing an alternative solution, including an implementation process, is also stupid and lazy.
Rules are rules.
You would make an excellent union member.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 20, 2012 12:26pm
Not too fucking difficult to do. As I said before my mother went through two stints of cancer and she always was concerned with having family members, or friends, taking off work, or school, to take her to the treatmens.I Wear Pants;1148138 wrote:Yeah his lazy mother should have been worrying about calling the secretary at the school instead of focusing on not ****ing dying.