sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 12:39pm
Rotinaj;1141635 wrote:Can you post a pic of this mythical stinging snake? Sounds dangerous!!!
Heretic
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Apr 11, 2012 12:40pm
Skyhook79
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Apr 11, 2012 1:00pm
“A God who let us prove his existence would be an idol”sleeper;1141553 wrote:The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Otherwise, I could simply say anything I want exists(ie. an invisible pink unicorn) and since you cannot prove me wrong, it must exist and it is correct. Do you see the faulty logic that only religious believers use to justify their erroneous beliefs?
― Dietrich Bonhoeffer
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:01pm
Sounds like a loophole. How does it feel to live your life based on a man made loophole?Skyhook79;1141652 wrote:“A God who let us prove his existence would be an idol”
― Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Skyhook79
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Apr 11, 2012 1:09pm
God commands us to work.sleeper;1141604 wrote:I wonder if Bigkahuna brushes his teeth or just prays for them to be brushed? I wonder if BigKahuna goes to work instead of praying for money.
"For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10.
Skyhook79
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Apr 11, 2012 1:11pm
sleeper;1141634 wrote:Ok tough guy. When it happens to you and your leg has to be amputated because you tried to be a tough guy with poison, I'd love to see your god help you then.
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:12pm
God gave those people legs? I think we can go ahead and chalk that up to science.
Skyhook79
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Apr 11, 2012 1:12pm
sleeper;1141653 wrote:Sounds like a loophole. How does it feel to live your life based on a man made loophole?
God has placed the correct balance of evidence of Himself in the world; enough to draw men freely to himself, but not enough to compel people to believe on Him who would not trust or love Him.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 11, 2012 1:16pm
There are a lot of people who don't work and eat.Skyhook79;1141657 wrote:God commands us to work.
"For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10.
Hope this helps.
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:18pm
But if a man does not work, and therefore does not eat, isn't that part of God's plan?Skyhook79;1141657 wrote:God commands us to work.
"For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10.
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:19pm
Sounds like a cult to me. Enjoy living a fraudulent life based on a belief that has never and will never be proven to be the truth of anything.Skyhook79;1141665 wrote:God has placed the correct balance of evidence of Himself in the world; enough to draw men freely to himself, but not enough to compel people to believe on Him who would not trust or love Him.
Heretic
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Apr 11, 2012 1:29pm
Africa has lots of starving children. God hates Africa.sleeper;1141672 wrote:But if a man does not work, and therefore does not eat, isn't that part of God's plan?
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:30pm
Yet people in Africa believe in god probably more than anywhere else.Heretic;1141683 wrote:Africa has lots of starving children. God hates Africa.
Poor and stupid....
Heretic
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Apr 11, 2012 1:32pm
They just need to realize that all those missionaries are being sent for them to eat...not listen to or be converted by. Everyone wins!sleeper;1141684 wrote:Yet people in Africa believe in god probably more than anywhere else.
Poor and stupid....
sleeper
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Apr 11, 2012 1:40pm
#sleeperwinsHeretic;1141686 wrote:They just need to realize that all those missionaries are being sent for them to eat...not listen to or be converted by. Everyone wins!
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 11, 2012 5:19pm
You just speak bullshit constantly when it comes to this stuff. That's the dumbest shit I've heardSkyhook79;1141665 wrote:God has placed the correct balance of evidence of Himself in the world; enough to draw men freely to himself, but not enough to compel people to believe on Him who would not trust or love Him.
Skyhook79
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Apr 11, 2012 6:54pm
Are you reading it High or sober?DeyDurkie5;1141876 wrote:You just speak bullshit constantly when it comes to this stuff. That's the dumbest shit I've heard
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bigkahuna
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Apr 11, 2012 6:58pm
Are you serious right now?sleeper;1141604 wrote:I wonder if Bigkahuna brushes his teeth or just prays for them to be brushed? I wonder if BigKahuna goes to work instead of praying for money.
I brush my teeth, I work, and like most people, I pray for wealth.
Also, I'm not lying about the medical thing. It has nothing to do with praying for a cure or something, I've just never really been sick and don't enjoy taking medicine. However, I do look at things as an ultimate plan and use that for justification when things like illnesses take a life even after being treated with surgery/medicine. Why didn't the medicine work for this person, but it did for this one?... Obviously people react to treatments differently, but I think you understand my point.
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bigkahuna
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Apr 11, 2012 7:03pm
Them being the same person was a bad choice of words I'll admit. However, it's not just a coincidence that most religions have a "real" person seen as the chosen one and the person who they need to model their lives after, follow their teachings, and follow them to the promise land, whether it be heaven, nirvana.... I for one think that it's an odd coincidence.sleeper;1141585 wrote:Buddhism has almost nothing to do with monotheistic religions. They are definitely not the same person, and neither are Muhammad or Jesus. I mean, are you serious right now?
It doesn't matter if you call him God, Allah, or whatever. The point is that the majority of religions have 1. a supernatural being 2. a prophet that lived on earth that was supposed to teach the masses and show them the light.
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bigkahuna
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Apr 11, 2012 7:04pm
So are the people that are rich and considered intelligent that happen to be believers poor and stupid as well?sleeper;1141684 wrote:Yet people in Africa believe in god probably more than anywhere else.
Poor and stupid....
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bigkahuna
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Apr 11, 2012 7:14pm
Don't confuse me with a bible thumper like that. I just don't like the doctor or medicine; plain and simple.queencitybuckeye;1141613 wrote:I do struggle with the believers who think faith and the secular, science in particular, need be mutually exclusive.
I know it's just a cartoon, but I really liked the Religion vs. Science episodes of South Park. I forget the exact quote, but it was something about the two sides complementing each other.
I'm a firm believer and know in my heart where I'm going when I die. I don't see it as my job to force my beliefs down your throat or make you believe my way. That has to be your choice. As a Christian, it's my job to merely inform you about it and let you make up your mind.
DeyDurkie5
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Apr 11, 2012 7:31pm
Regardless if I was high or sober, you would still sound retarded in my opinion.Skyhook79;1141932 wrote:Are you reading it High or sober?
BRF
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Apr 11, 2012 7:49pm
And there you have it! Well said. BTW, I never liked Carlin either. I can't believe they let him be that railroad conductor story teller to little kids on PBS.I Wear Pants;1141112 wrote:... just be a good dude.
goosebumps
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Apr 11, 2012 11:20pm
Yep Sleeper, religion is only about money and how much money it can make, Look at how wealthy one of the greatest people that ever lived was...
I don't consider myself a bible thumper by any means, but you're obviously really bothered by religion. Why so butt hurt?
LJ
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Apr 11, 2012 11:52pm
Skyhook79;1141661 wrote:
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