sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 8, 2012 4:37pm
The same reason I have to use my tax dollars to support your cult; forced by the government.Skyhook79;1165434 wrote:That is not what is in question. Why do I have to fund your College Education with my tax dollars?
Thankfully there is no freedom of education clause in the Constitution, but there is one for religion.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 8, 2012 4:38pm
Exception not the rule.Skyhook79;1165435 wrote:How much did GE rake in 2011 and how much tax revenue did they send in to the IRS?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 8, 2012 6:17pm
How is this relevant to my post?Skyhook79;1165435 wrote:How much did GE rake in 2011 and how much tax revenue did they send in to the IRS?
Can't wait to hear this one...
#failhooklogic
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 8, 2012 7:36pm
I would like the government to get the taxes that are owed to them before anything or anyone else is taxed more.
Maybe figure out the tax system first...then there can this "tax exempt" status revisited.
Maybe figure out the tax system first...then there can this "tax exempt" status revisited.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 9, 2012 1:23am
Will try to remember to respind to this when I'm not very drunk.OSH;1165426 wrote:You really enjoy lame memes don't you? Nothing like overgeneralizations.
There is also a lot of good that ANY nonprofit does that the government doesn't do with taxes. I would prefer many of these non-profits operate how they are instead of allowing the federal government to screw up even MORE money. I don't agree with Planned Parenthood, but if they continue to educate women -- that's more than what the federal government is doing for many of those women.
The purpose of "churches" are to help people in need too. Do they do their job? That's debatable.
Would I prefer that we didn't build massive and grandiose temples...absolutely! But as much as I do not like organized religion, there are many that do GREAT things on a large scale. There are many that do so much more positive things than what that money would be doing if it were taken in taxes.
Pretty much ever private and college university in the country is non-profit (not counting Phoenix, DeVry, etc.). Those institutions do so much more than what any government could do if you taxed them. I would venture to say that every Division I athletic program that is separate from the institution is non-profit -- they do more than tax money would.
Just what we need...more taxes being taken out from everyone and everything. That'll fix things...
They don't pay taxes but they make up for it other ways...or hopefully they do. I wouldn't mind if they actually had some sort of stipulations -- however that may be. I really don't like seeing "non-profits" have thousands and millions of dollars sitting around and not actually going to good use. There are non-profit private and public universities that have $600 million worth in their endowment and still charging $50,000+ for tuition...to me, that's terrible. I understand having some operating funds for the future...but that's outrageous.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 9, 2012 1:24am
By not taxing some you are by definition going to be taxing others more or running a deficit.OSH;1165555 wrote:I would like the government to get the taxes that are owed to them before anything or anyone else is taxed more.
Maybe figure out the tax system first...then there can this "tax exempt" status revisited.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 9, 2012 10:01am
It's becoming the rule and this doesn't include companies like GE,Duke,AEP,Wells Fargo etc, etc who also pay no taxes.sleeper;1165447 wrote:Exception not the rule.
How does it feel to be wrong again?
http://nation.foxnews.com/taxes/2012/02/22/percentage-americans-who-pay-no-income-tax-hits-495
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 10:04am
That's 5 companies out of 10's of thousands. Exception not the rule.Skyhook79;1165923 wrote:It's becoming the rule and this doesn't include companies like GE,Duke,AEP,Wells Fargo etc, etc who also pay no taxes.
How does it feel to be wrong again?
http://nation.foxnews.com/taxes/2012/02/22/percentage-americans-who-pay-no-income-tax-hits-495
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 9, 2012 1:13pm
Yes, I did.sleeper;1165345 wrote:So you had pre-marital sex?
How does that question emerge from me stating that marriage is a relationship contract?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 9, 2012 1:25pm
Yes, I did.sleeper;1165345 wrote:So you had pre-marital sex?
How does that question emerge from me stating that marriage is a relationship contract?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 1:51pm
Well at least you are honest unlike 99% of Christians I encounter at the mall on Sundays.Con_Alma;1165941 wrote:Yes, I did.
How does that question emerge from me stating that marriage is a relationship contract?
For most believers and bible thumpers, marriage is nothing more than an okay from God to bang a woman.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 9, 2012 2:03pm
Did you have any reason to think I haven't been anything but honest on this forum?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 2:05pm
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?Con_Alma;1165994 wrote:Did you have any reason to think I haven't been anything but honest on this forum?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 9, 2012 2:06pm
I'm not sure but I think it is certainly possible.sleeper;1165998 wrote:Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 9, 2012 2:17pm
The problem I have with religious zealots is the selective application of the Bible. What sense does it make to devote your life to honoring part of it but then completely disregarding other parts?
Exodus 31:15--For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.
Yeah? How come none of the religious nuts are putting each other to death the ones that do any work on Sundays? But yet it's okay to apply other parts of the Bible?
That's illogical nonsense to apply parts and ignore others.
Exodus 31:15--For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.
Yeah? How come none of the religious nuts are putting each other to death the ones that do any work on Sundays? But yet it's okay to apply other parts of the Bible?
That's illogical nonsense to apply parts and ignore others.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 9, 2012 2:21pm
Holy crap, OSU education showing through in that "sentence"?sleeper;1165998 wrote:Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 2:22pm
Says the guy who went to Marietta college... :rolleyes:jmog;1166022 wrote:Holy crap, OSU education showing through in that "sentence"?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 9, 2012 2:39pm
Who went to Marietta?sleeper;1166023 wrote:Says the guy who went to Marietta college... :rolleyes:
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 2:41pm
Exactly.jmog;1166032 wrote:Who went to Marietta?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 9, 2012 2:59pm
Seriously, who went to Marietta?sleeper;1166039 wrote:Exactly.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 9, 2012 3:30pm
Didn't crynasty say he went there?jmog;1166063 wrote:Seriously, who went to Marietta?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 9, 2012 4:03pm
Damn it vball. I've only been checking in on this thread to see pics of Kate Upton. I saw you were the last one to post here and now I'm disappointed.vball10set;1166089 wrote:Didn't crynasty say he went there?
:laugh:
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 9, 2012 4:12pm
^^^lol--here you go...
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 9, 2012 6:20pm
If the federal [and state] government(s) actually did their job by collecting the taxes owed to them...then I would potentially trust them by adding more taxes. Or, if the federal government did a better job in attracting businesses to the United States, and then we could have tax money there.I Wear Pants;1165898 wrote:By not taxing some you are by definition going to be taxing others more or running a deficit.
If you think non-profits not getting taxed is a problem...and think the federal/state government should tax MORE groups because they won't be running a deficit then...I think there is a problem in the thinking. You have much more faith in the government than I have. Many of these non-profits are doing jobs that the federal/state governments are not doing. This could help the deficit problem because they are addressing issues and helping people -- unlike what the federal/state government actually do.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 9, 2012 6:44pm
This is a wonderful opinion that has nothing to do with churches being businesses that don't pay any taxes. This is textbook deflection.OSH;1166188 wrote:If the federal [and state] government(s) actually did their job by collecting the taxes owed to them...then I would potentially trust them by adding more taxes. Or, if the federal government did a better job in attracting businesses to the United States, and then we could have tax money there.
If you think non-profits not getting taxed is a problem...and think the federal/state government should tax MORE groups because they won't be running a deficit then...I think there is a problem in the thinking. You have much more faith in the government than I have. Many of these non-profits are doing jobs that the federal/state governments are not doing. This could help the deficit problem because they are addressing issues and helping people -- unlike what the federal/state government actually do.
Enjoy!