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Apr 3, 2012 9:42 PM
Big Gain;1136013 wrote:I was talking about a player other than Bufford. Ohio State needed ONE more player to step up. Obvioudly it wasn't going to be Sullinger, Thomas or Craft. The fifth option is Smith.
Buford.
Apr 3, 2012 9:42pm
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karen lotz;1136012 wrote:Ignoramus
lol, I don't get in the college forums much, so it takes me time to figure out who some of these people are...lulz.
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Apr 3, 2012 9:43 PM
karen lotz;1136012 wrote:Ignoramus
Obtuse Goon
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Apr 3, 2012 9:43 PM
wildcats20;1136015 wrote:Yup, coaches don't draw stuff up in timeouts in division 1 college basketball.
exactly. Coaching ends in practice. I heard that the NCAA is thinking about just sending the players to the games and letting the coaches stay at home. No need wasting dollars and time.
Apr 3, 2012 9:43pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:46 PM
Big Gain;1136023 wrote:Obtuse Goon

What'd you call me?
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Apr 3, 2012 9:49 PM
wes_mantooth;1136024 wrote:exactly. Coaching ends in practice. I heard that the NCAA is thinking about just sending the players to the games and letting the coaches stay at home. No need wasting dollars and time.

Look for a rule banning marker boards and markers in timeout huddles. Halftime will also be eliminated because no adjustments are made there either.
Apr 3, 2012 9:49pm
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Big Gain;1136023 wrote:Obtuse Goon
Lol that might be better than ignoramus
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Apr 3, 2012 9:49 PM
wildcats20;1136015 wrote:Yup, coaches don't draw stuff up in timeouts in division 1 college basketball.

Sure they do, for unusual last second shots, Turner in the Big Ten Tournament. Even that play was ran at one point or another in practice during the season. But had to be drawn up again at that moment since it had never been used in a game before. But a coach at a Major University in the NCAA Final Four is not going to draw up a COMPLETELY NEW, never ever run in practice, never ever seen before, in the middle of the game.
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Apr 3, 2012 9:50 PM
SportsAndLady;1136035 wrote:Lol that might be better than ignoramus

OG. I kind of like it.
Apr 3, 2012 9:50pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:50 PM
Big Gain;1136036 wrote:Sure they do, for unusual last second shots, Turner in the Big Ten Tournament. Even that play was ran at one point or another in practice during the season. But had to be drawn up again at that moment since it had never been used in a game before. But a coach at a Major University in the NCAA Final Four is not going to draw up a COMPLETELY NEW, never ever run in practice, never ever seen before, in the middle of the game.
OK.

You are wrong, but OK.
Apr 3, 2012 9:50pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:52 PM
I'm guessing big gain never played basketball/was in a timeout huddle.
Apr 3, 2012 9:52pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:53 PM
karen lotz;1136044 wrote:I'm guessing big gain never played basketball/was in a timeout huddle.
No timeouts in high school lunch time basketball
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Apr 3, 2012 9:58 PM
wildcats20;1136015 wrote:Yup, coaches don't draw stuff up in timeouts in division 1 college basketball.
Sure they do, last second once in a decade plays. Like Turner in the Big Ten Tournament. Even that play had been run in practice at one point in the season. Since it was an unusual play, for an unusual moment, it needed to drawn up again at that juncture. A coach might draw up a rarely used play, one that has been practiced, but not very often. But what a coach will not do is draw up a never before seen, never before practiced, brand new on a whim play, in the middle of the 2nd half in the NCAA Final Four.
Apr 3, 2012 9:58pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:59 PM
Yup, read that the first time.

I even quoted it.
Apr 3, 2012 9:59pm
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Apr 3, 2012 9:59 PM
Big Gain;1136023 wrote:Obtuse Goon
What's up?
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Apr 3, 2012 10:00 PM
If you have never had a box and one played against you, you have never really played the game.
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Apr 3, 2012 10:03 PM
wildcats20;1136059 wrote:Yup, read that the first time.

I even quoted it.
One can always tell when another has nothing of substance to add.
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Apr 3, 2012 10:08 PM
karen lotz;1136044 wrote:I'm guessing big gain never played basketball/was in a timeout huddle.
If one has never had a box and one played against them, then they have never really played the game.

So, you have been in a timeout huddle at an NCAA Final Four game???
Apr 3, 2012 10:08pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:10 PM
If the players dont remember the play, whats the difference in drawing up a new one or drawing up one ran 1 time in October?

"Pacer" arguably the 2nd most memorable shot in NCAA Tourney history, was a play for Valpo guard Bryce Drew to get open. They had never run the play in practice, and the players didnt know what it was. The coaching staff, had however, gone over several end of game situations and come up with plays. So they knew what to draw up, but it was brand new to the players.

This argument is dumb. Any coach in America will tell you he has drawn up specific plays for players and situations in a game.
Apr 3, 2012 10:10pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:12 PM
Laley23;1136074 wrote:If the players dont remember the play, whats the difference in drawing up a new one or drawing up one ran 1 time in October?

"Pacer" arguably the 2nd most memorable shot in NCAA Tourney history, was a play for Valpo guard Bryce Drew to get open. They had never run the play in practice, and the players didnt know what it was. The coaching staff, had however, gone over several end of game situations and come up with plays. So they knew what to draw up, but it was brand new to the players.

This argument is dumb. Any coach in America will tell you he has drawn up specific plays for players and situations in a game.
That is all I am saying. If a coach sees something and he thinks he can get a lob or an easy dunk...or just a clear out for Thomas..or whoever, he will do it.
Apr 3, 2012 10:12pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:14 PM
karen lotz;1136031 wrote:What'd you call me?
What should be your surname.
Apr 3, 2012 10:14pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:14 PM
Regular posters cannot see it, but Big Gain has deleted 6 posts over the last page from post 851 on. S&L was correct when he asked if BG cannot work a forum
Apr 3, 2012 10:14pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:15 PM
LJ;1136081 wrote:Regular posters cannot see it, but Big Gain has deleted 6 posts over the last page from post 851 on. S&L was correct when he asked if BG cannot work a forum
Correct.
Apr 3, 2012 10:15pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:17 PM
wes_mantooth;1136075 wrote:That is all I am saying. If a coach sees something and he thinks he can get a lob or an easy dunk...or just a clear out for Thomas..or whoever, he will do it.
Bob Knight was famous for getting the ball into the hot players hands. He has openly criticized many coaches for not drawing up plays for players who score a lot in the first half, then get like 4 shots in the second half. Roy Williams, with Harrison Barnes, comes to mind to me right now.
Apr 3, 2012 10:17pm
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Apr 3, 2012 10:25 PM
wes_mantooth;1136075 wrote:That is all I am saying. If a coach sees something and he thinks he can get a lob or an easy dunk...or just a clear out for Thomas..or whoever, he will do it.
And that play has undoubtedly been run in practice before, but not often. So it is "drawn up" in the timeout huddle. All I am saying is in the middle of a game a coach is rarely if ever going to draw up a play on a whim, not even discussed among the coaches before, during a regular not special TV timeout.
Apr 3, 2012 10:25pm