Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 10, 2012 6:45pm
this guy was both!Curly J;1140878 wrote:Stuff like that happens. I had the same thing pulled on me years ago except the guy was Gay.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Apr 10, 2012 7:00pm
Understandable.rmolin73;1141191 wrote:My whole point was that there are other centers for other races on other college campuses. I have said it on a number of occasions that white people that complain of the perks that minorities have are just as bad as the minorities that complain about their lack of those perks. All of them can just leave while the intelligent continue to make money and mock them in the process. I mean who gives a ratts ass about any Ohio State's Hale Hall? Get your degree, get a job, and make money is what you should be focusing on. It just sounds like the complaints of the inferior.
But I don't think that your point was clearly evident with the post.
It was initially about Ohio State's Hale Hall because that's where vandalism took place. I would also venture to say that a public education that is publicly funded would (or should) have this "equality" to it -- that's the gist of what was being asked.
So be it.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Apr 11, 2012 3:13pm
Zimmerman to be charged.
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 11, 2012 3:18pm
Good. Now hopefully all the people protesting can go back to "looking" for work.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 11, 2012 4:09pm
Exactly.sleeper;1141780 wrote:Good. Now hopefully all the people protesting can go back to "looking" for work.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 11, 2012 4:18pm
If he isn't convicted, bank on riots. People have already made-up their minds about what constitutes "justice". I do suspect that, more than most cases, as the real facts come out we will see just how irresponsible the media truly has been in reporting these events.
Maybe lethal force in self-defense wasn't justified. But I suspect it will be hard for 12 jurors to conclude that beyond a reasonable doubt. My suspiciion is this is not a winnable case for the DA and it is proceeding to trial only to satisfy the blood lust. The best possible outcome, perhaps even for Zimmerman, is to plead guilty to a lesser charge and maybe get 12 months + probation.
Maybe lethal force in self-defense wasn't justified. But I suspect it will be hard for 12 jurors to conclude that beyond a reasonable doubt. My suspiciion is this is not a winnable case for the DA and it is proceeding to trial only to satisfy the blood lust. The best possible outcome, perhaps even for Zimmerman, is to plead guilty to a lesser charge and maybe get 12 months + probation.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 11, 2012 4:20pm
Nice thought, but we've got a better chance of seeing Jesus than this happening.sleeper;1141780 wrote:Good. Now hopefully all the people protesting can go back to "looking" for work.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Apr 11, 2012 4:25pm
Without question their will be riots. Plus, Zimmerman will have to relocate to a third world country or else he will wind up in a body bag. Alternatively, if he is found to be guilty and goes to jail, he will be dead within a week. I think with each passing day it has become more and more apparent the media has pulled a "Duke/Lacrosse". This guy might be guilty of manslaughter, I just don't see how they are going to be able to prove he killed the kid just because he was black.gut;1141832 wrote:If he isn't convicted, bank on riots. People have already made-up their minds about what constitutes "justice". I do suspect that, more than most cases, as the real facts come out we will see just how irresponsible the media truly has been in reporting these events.
See my earlier point. If I am Zimmerman, I am fearful "jail-house justice" would prevail. That is going to make it very difficult for Zimmerman to plead to a lesser charge unless his safety can be promised.gut;1141832 wrote:Maybe lethal force in self-defense wasn't justified. But I suspect it will be hard for 12 jurors to conclude that beyond a reasonable doubt. My suspiciion is this is not a winnable case for the DA and it is proceeding to trial only to satisfy the blood lust. The best possible outcome, perhaps even for Zimmerman, is to plead guilty to a lesser charge and maybe get 12 months + probation.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 11, 2012 4:31pm
Sure, he'll go to a low-security prison where there's mostly only petty thieves, some pot smokers, Blagojevich and Countrywide execs. I'm sure any plea will keep him out of gen pop. I also wonder, if he's acquitted, if he can sue MSNBC for that hit-piece edit they did. Take that settlement, change your name, and move to Canada.Little Danny;1141844 wrote:
See my earlier point. If I am Zimmerman, I am fearful "jail-house justice" would prevail. That is going to make it very difficult for Zimmerman to plead to a lesser charge unless his safety can be promised.
Also, I don't think it will be tried as a hate crime. Aside from not being able to prove it, it's ultimately not relevant as far as justice goes - would be a stiffer sentences, but ultimately he's guilty of negligent homicide or he's not, prejudice may have played a roll in his actions but I don't think that qualifies as a hate crime. Could end-up being like Casey Anthony where if the DA overreaches on the charges, she loses on all counts.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Apr 11, 2012 5:40pm
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AP BREAKING: Official tells AP: Trayvon Martin's killer to be charged with 2nd-degree murder; is in custody. -RAS 4/11/12 5:33 PM |
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Apr 11, 2012 7:31pm
people are already window shopping to see what they will be getting when they smash and grab....smh
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Apr 11, 2012 7:33pm
I really want to see the evidence in this trial. Also the State Att. Corey is up for re-election!
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 11, 2012 8:43pm
Nancy Grace just had a wet dream.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 11, 2012 8:43pm
Nancy Grace just had a wet dream.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Apr 11, 2012 9:31pm
Florida.....where the DA goes for homeruns when they really should just be looking for a base hit. Casey Anthony and the death penalty, now George Zimmerman and 2nd degree murder charges. They are a bunch of dumbshits down there. Why not charge him with something that could stick?
Curly J
Posts: 7,282
Apr 11, 2012 9:47pm
Glory Days;1142036 wrote:Nancy Grace just had a wet dream.
You can say that again.Glory Days;1142037 wrote:Nancy Grace just had a wet dream.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Apr 11, 2012 9:52pm
You can tell in her entire speech.Fab1b;1141955 wrote:I really want to see the evidence in this trial. Also the State Att. Corey is up for re-election!
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 11, 2012 10:17pm
Agreed. If this lady is serious about pushing Murder 2, then she might be the dumbest DA in the country. Unless she seats 12 Panthers on the jury, George is as good as walking.dwccrew;1142072 wrote:Florida.....where the DA goes for homeruns when they really should just be looking for a base hit. Casey Anthony and the death penalty, now George Zimmerman and 2nd degree murder charges. They are a bunch of dumbshits down there. Why not charge him with something that could stick?
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Apr 11, 2012 10:35pm
Why is Murder 2 such a stretch in this case? Under Florida Law...
Source: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 11, 2012 10:43pm
If Zimmerman's account is accurate and Williams approached him after he was retreating, then the statute doesn't apply in the slightest. Just the 911 recordings alone are enough to shoot down "depraved mind."sherm03;1142201 wrote:Why is Murder 2 such a stretch in this case? Under Florida Law...
Source: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html
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mella
Posts: 647
Apr 11, 2012 10:48pm
Zimmerman is a piece of crap that was looking for trouble. Murder 2 is the right call, but let it go to a jury to make the final determination.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Apr 11, 2012 10:49pm
They must feel they have enough evidence to disprove Zimmerman's account...otherwise they wouldn't go for the charge. I just think that they know how bad they screwed the pooch with the Casey Anthony trial, and they can't afford to blow another high profile case again.fish82;1142212 wrote:If Zimmerman's account is accurate and Williams approached him after he was retreating, then the statute doesn't apply in the slightest. Just the 911 recordings alone are enough to shoot down "depraved mind."
password
Posts: 2,360
Apr 11, 2012 10:56pm
I say he is convicted of 2nd degree murder and gets the max. It will not matter what the evidence says, the black community is going to threaten to burn down the whole city and kill every member of the jury if the don't convict Zimmerman, plus this is election time for Obama. Obama has dispatched the justice department to investigate the police and his bun boy Eric Holder has said that they will investigate and file charges against the police department if Zimmerman is not charged. I wonder if the justice department will be investigating Sharpton and the black panthers for their crimes. People like these idiots are why I hope Zimmerman is found not guilty and Sharpton gets hit by a bus driven by a black guy.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 11, 2012 10:57pm
Martin?fish82;1142212 wrote:If Zimmerman's account is accurate and Williams approached him after he was retreating, then the statute doesn't apply in the slightest. Just the 911 recordings alone are enough to shoot down "depraved mind."
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 11, 2012 11:31pm
Really a shame they got Big Al involved. The family seemed very sincere and sympathetic. Big Al sitting there really kind of "cheapens" their loss, unfortunately.ccrunner609;1142042 wrote:Saw video clip of his mother........having Al Sharpton standing there just wreaks of BS.