Trayvon Martin

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MontyBrunswick
Mar 29, 2012 9:48am
People are taking this whole debacle too seriously. I'm sick of hearing about Trayvon and Zimmerman. Trayvon is a stupid name anyways.
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dwccrew
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Mar 29, 2012 4:07pm
Speedofsand;1130556 wrote:still makes me lmao

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It's so refreshing to see our US Congress working hard for our country.
fish82;1130701 wrote:Looks like the news outlets have finally updated their photos they're attaching to the topic:



;)

Hmmmm......Zimmerman doesn't really look 5'9 and 250 lbs there.
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hoops23
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Mar 29, 2012 4:20pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/trayvon-martin-911-tape-racial-slur_n_1368905.html?icid=maing-grid10

In the moments before Martin was shot, he was on his cellphone talking to his girlfriend.

"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl told ABC News. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
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Mortgagestar1
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Mar 29, 2012 5:13pm
Statistics prove more black on white crime than white on black and much more black on black hate crime. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakan. ect makes no money off of black on black crime where Travon cases do.
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rmolin73
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Mar 29, 2012 5:20pm
Mortgagestar1;1131211 wrote:Statistics prove more black on white crime than white on black and much more black on black hate crime. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakan. ect makes no money off of black on black crime where Travon cases do.
Statistics also prove that there is more white on white crime than black on white crime.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 29, 2012 5:24pm
rmolin73;1131216 wrote:Statistics also prove that there is more white on white crime than black on white crime.

Statistics also prove that there are more white people than blacks in this country so the odds of white on white crime are going to be higher anyways.
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Mar 29, 2012 5:25pm
dlazz;1131222 wrote:Statistics also prove that there are more white people than blacks in this country so the odds of white on white crime are going to be higher anyways.
I was just going to post this. Reps
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rmolin73
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Mar 29, 2012 6:11pm
According to.the FBI crime statistics whites commit the majority of crimes against whites as well as the majority of crimes against blacks are by blacks. I've posted the actual data and links before I do it later when I'm at my home computer.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 29, 2012 6:26pm
rmolin73;1131244 wrote:According to.the FBI crime statistics whites commit the majority of crimes against whites as well as the majority of crimes against blacks are by blacks. I've posted the actual data and links before I do it later when I'm at my home computer.
No need, as it makes sense for the data to work that way.
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gut
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Mar 29, 2012 6:31pm
rmolin73;1131244 wrote:According to.the FBI crime statistics whites commit the majority of crimes against whites as well as the majority of crimes against blacks are by blacks. I've posted the actual data and links before I do it later when I'm at my home computer.
Not surprising. Most people commit crime close to home and, well, most neighborhoods are predominantly white, black, hispanic or what have you.
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Mar 29, 2012 7:35pm
A good question about the press conferences and protesting going on because of this incident, why have Sharpton and the New Black Panthers not threatened or harassed the Hispanics ( Mexicans) considering Zimmerman is Hispanic? I think they realize that if they piss off one of the Mexican cartels with their bullshit, they would find themselves executed in the streets with their head chopped off.
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Mar 29, 2012 7:57pm
password;1131305 wrote:A good question about the press conferences and protesting going on because of this incident, why have Sharpton and the New Black Panthers not threatened or harassed the Hispanics ( Mexicans) considering Zimmerman is Hispanic? I think they realize that if they piss off one of the Mexican cartels with their bullshit, they would find themselves executed in the streets with their head chopped off.
You think the Cartels gives a shit if someone is talking bad about Hispanics in the U.S.? You think they'd bring unwanted attention to their organization from the United States by assassinating a public figure?

Don't preface your own questions with "a good question" when they suck. It's misleading.
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gut
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Mar 29, 2012 9:37pm
Is this one death really any more senseless or heinous than the hundreds of other murders across the US this past month? If a woman gets raped and killed - ehhh, a few of those happen every week across the country. Now if it's a child, much different story.

This is awful and Zimmerman should get the max (assuming he's guilty, which he's guilty of something but not entirely sure "prejudice" equates to a hate crime). But it's really kind of sickening the way everything is such a big deal, especially the grandstanding (including one POTUS). Maybe it's about the injustice, and I can go along with that (although it may be more of a case of a bad law). But what irritates me, and I think others, is every time something like this happens (about once a year) it just seems like people are waiting to throw this in our face. For what purpose, I'm not sure. Yeah, there's racism and hate crimes and discrimination. And there always will be, of all kinds of all people.

I feel like it's very counter-productive to always focus on the negative. I can't help but imagine that - white or black - that this isn't healthy. A) I don't like the way some have to always be a victim. I don't see how that's beneficial to anyone. B) It creates animosity. We make a lot of progress but you don't hear about that much, and then an incident like this and it feels like we've accomplished nothing.

You've got a bad law and a guy who should be in jail. Why does race have to be such a big issue on this? People get killed every day for far more random shit and no one goes looting stores or proclaiming national hoodie day. Just saying that if I wanted to take on senseless violence, hate crimes would be pretty far down the list if you're going by severity and frequency.
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 29, 2012 11:12pm
hoops23;1131178 wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/trayvon-martin-911-tape-racial-slur_n_1368905.html?icid=maing-grid10

In the moments before Martin was shot, he was on his cellphone talking to his girlfriend.

"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl told ABC News. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
Look at you finally reading things. Good work. But welcome to last week with this breaking news.
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hoops23
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Mar 29, 2012 11:23pm
friendfromlowry;1131523 wrote:Look at you finally reading things. Good work. But welcome to last week with this breaking news.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

And I only reposted it because of the hoodie talk. Sorry if I offended you by doing so.

/sarcasm
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 29, 2012 11:28pm
I honestly don't care anymore. I had an opinion last week, but by now who cares. Witnesses are going to continue to come out of the woodwork and offer contradicting accounts. Each night CNN will offer up some irrelevant news story like "WITNESS ACCOUNT: SHOOTER WAS A-POS BLOOD TYPE BUT HAD AB-NEG BLOOD ON SHOELACES" trying to keep it current. They need to bring Zimmerman in and settle it one way or another. And IF/WHEN he's found innocent, Martin's parents need to shut up.
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 29, 2012 11:31pm
hoops23;1131529 wrote:You literally have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Lol nothing you've posted on this entire thread has made any sense. Post #357 is a perfect example.
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hoops23
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Mar 29, 2012 11:37pm
friendfromlowry;1131539 wrote:Lol nothing you've posted on this entire thread has made any sense. Post #357 is a perfect example.
Are you retarded? If not, I'm not sure how "post #357" didn't make sense.

It's pretty fucking obvious if Zimmerman isn't stalking the kid nothing happens. It's really as simple as that.

So yeah, you must be pretty ignorant to not understand that point.
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hoops23
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Mar 29, 2012 11:38pm
friendfromlowry;1131536 wrote:I honestly don't care anymore. I had an opinion last week, but by now who cares. Witnesses are going to continue to come out of the woodwork and offer contradicting accounts. Each night CNN will offer up some irrelevant news story like "WITNESS ACCOUNT: SHOOTER WAS A-POS BLOOD TYPE BUT HAD AB-NEG BLOOD ON SHOELACES" trying to keep it current. They need to bring Zimmerman in and settle it one way or another. And IF/WHEN he's found innocent, Martin's parents need to shut up.
And if you don't care, GTFO. Why else would you be posting? SMH

I'm guessing you do care, thus the reason for your presence in this thread.
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 29, 2012 11:52pm
hoops23;1131542 wrote:Are you retarded? If not, I'm not sure how "post #357" didn't make sense.

It's pretty ****ing obvious if Zimmerman isn't stalking the kid nothing happens. It's really as simple as that.

So yeah, you must be pretty ignorant to not understand that point.
Already addressed it in #359 but you were too busy asking me if I was retarded to stop, read, and respond. You claimed the dispatcher told him not to follow, but he kept on anyways. When really, the reports are he stopped his pursuit, then went back to his car, and that's where the altercation happened. So who's the ignorant one not reading anything and just forming their own opinion? Oh you also claimed that if he called the police to let them handle it, there wouldn't be a problem. So you're basically saying he shouldn't have ignored the dispatcher (which he didn't) and instead called the police so they could handle it (which he did). It's Zimmerman's fault for "stalking" the kid, no blame should go to Martin for, oh I don't know, starting a fight.
Haha oh and you were also the one thinking that Zimmerman kicked his own ass to avoid the murder charge (despite the witnesses saying it was clear there was a two-person fight). But everyone is trying to paint Martin in a negative light, right??? Not you though, you're completely fair and unbiased.

Anyways, I will be done. No sense arguing with someone who isn't listening to evidence and witnesses and basically thinking what he wants - as well as not making any sense with it, either.
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Automatik
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Mar 30, 2012 12:07am
friendfromlowry;1131557 wrote:Already addressed it in #359 but you were too busy asking me if I was retarded to stop, read, and respond. You claimed the dispatcher told him not to follow, but he kept on anyways. When really, the reports are he stopped his pursuit, then went back to his car, and that's where the altercation happened. So who's the ignorant one not reading anything and just forming their own opinion? Oh you also claimed that if he called the police to let them handle it, there wouldn't be a problem. So you're basically saying he shouldn't have ignored the dispatcher (which he didn't) and instead called the police so they could handle it (which he did). It's Zimmerman's fault for "stalking" the kid, no blame should go to Martin for, oh I don't know, starting a fight.
Haha oh and you were also the one thinking that Zimmerman kicked his own ass to avoid the murder charge (despite the witnesses saying it was clear there was a two-person fight). But everyone is trying to paint Martin in a negative light, right??? Not you though, you're completely fair and unbiased.

Anyways, I will be done. No sense arguing with someone who isn't listening to evidence and witnesses and basically thinking what he wants - as well as not making any sense with it, either.
You're bashing him, yet all of your points are just as much hearsay as everything else.

"IF/WHEN he's found innocent".....innocent of what exactly?
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Mar 30, 2012 7:50am
rmolin73;1131244 wrote:According to.the FBI crime statistics whites commit the majority of crimes against whites as well as the majority of crimes against blacks are by blacks. I've posted the actual data and links before I do it later when I'm at my home computer.
probably white collar.
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rmolin73
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Mar 30, 2012 7:52am
Raw Dawgin' it;1131633 wrote:probably white collar.
Definately wrong next.
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Glory Days
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Mar 30, 2012 9:34am
Raw Dawgin' it;1131633 wrote:probably white collar.
racist.