Archive 2012 Big Ten Tournament

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 6:15pm

btw, that sure was fucking fun....Sully, the TRUE pride of Columbus!!!

Hb31187

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Mar 10, 2012 6:15pm

centralbucksfan;1111719 wrote:So, if OSU beats MSU tomorrow...you don't think they are worthy of the last #1?

Id have to go pull up their resume, unless soemone already has on this thread and i can just go look at it

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:15pm

vball10set;1111720 wrote:I'd rather have have a high #2 seed (away from Kentucky and 'Cuse) than get a #1 seed and get sent out west..jmo :thumbup:

If that all happens, great. What are chances though? If you get the last #1, you are certianly away from those teams.

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:16pm

Hb31187;1111722 wrote:Id have to go pull up their resume, unless soemone already has on this thread and i can just go look at it

Same records, very similar RPI and SOS. OSU in best conference, wins regular season and tourney. Kansas that is. Mizzou might be in mix, but their SOS is not good. Played no one in per conf. schedule.

Hb31187

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Mar 10, 2012 6:18pm

centralbucksfan;1111724 wrote:Same records, very similar RPI and SOS. OSU in best conference, wins regular season and tourney.

If they beat MSU id say they have a legit argument for the 3rd or 4th #1 seed

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:19pm

Hb31187;1111726 wrote:If they beat MSU id say they have a legit argument for the 3rd or 4th #1 seed

UK, 'Cuse and UNC have top 3 locked up already. Only question right now is the last #1 seed.

Hb31187

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Mar 10, 2012 6:21pm

centralbucksfan;1111727 wrote:UK, 'Cuse and UNC have top 3 locked up already. Only question right now is the last #1 seed.

Between Duke, Kansas, MSU and OSU pretty much right?

osu45804

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Mar 10, 2012 6:21pm

I hope we kick Sparty's ass tomorrow as well

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:22pm

Hb31187;1111730 wrote:Between Duke, Kansas, MSU and OSU pretty much right?

Duke lost today. They are out of discussion. Right now, its really down to OSU, KU, MSU and maybe Mizzou.

wildcats20

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Mar 10, 2012 6:23pm

Hb31187;1111730 wrote:Between Duke, Kansas, MSU and OSU pretty much right?

Dook has no chance after the loss today to FSU.

Terry_Tate

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Mar 10, 2012 6:25pm

Hb31187;1111730 wrote:Between Duke, Kansas, MSU and OSU pretty much right?

Duke has to be out of it I think. Definitely seems like winner of OSU-MSU will be 4th #1 with Kansas and Duke not even playing in their conference championship games, but maybe the committee already has their mind made up on the 1 seeds and OSU/MSU are both 2s.

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:28pm

Terry_Tate;1111736 wrote:Duke has to be out of it I think. Definitely seems like winner of OSU-MSU will be 4th #1 with Kansas and Duke not even playing in their conference championship games, but maybe the committee already has their mind made up on the 1 seeds and OSU/MSU are both 2s.

And you could be right. I wonder if they then put the highest 2 seed with the lowest 1 seed? Of course, its far from perfect science. OSU was shafted last year with the top overall seed and the teams they put in their bracket. So who knows.

Terry_Tate

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Mar 10, 2012 6:32pm

centralbucksfan;1111737 wrote:And you could be right. I wonder if they then put the highest 2 seed with the lowest 1 seed? Of course, its far from perfect science. OSU was shafted last year with the top overall seed and the teams they put in their bracket. So who knows.

Agree. Past 2 years I've felt Ohio State had the hardest region, last year no question, so I don't really care about a 1 or 2, just the difficulty of the region. No UK or UNC, obviously no MSU and ill be happy. Missouri and Baylor would be tough, but I feel good about Ohio State against anyone that's not UK or UNC.

robj55

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Mar 10, 2012 6:32pm

The Big 10 deserves a 1 seed imo, the winner tomorrow should get the last number 1.

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 6:36pm

centralbucksfan;1111723 wrote:If that all happens, great. What are chances though? If you get the last #1, you are certianly away from those teams.

The chances of getting a high #2 are almost a certainty, and being away from the the #1 and #2 overall seeds (Ky & 'Cuse) is a benefit of that.

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 6:39pm

centralbucksfan;1111737 wrote:And you could be right. I wonder if they then put the highest 2 seed with the lowest 1 seed? Of course, its far from perfect science. OSU was shafted last year with the top overall seed and the teams they put in their bracket. So who knows.

Jay Bilas said that's how it's done, thus my reason for hoping for a high #2 seed.

wildcats20

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Mar 10, 2012 6:39pm

vball10set;1111746 wrote:The chances of getting a high #2 are almost a certainty, and being away from the the #1 and #2 overall seeds (Ky & 'Cuse) is a benefit of that.

The only seed that is "ranked" are the four 1's.

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:40pm

vball10set;1111746 wrote:The chances of getting a high #2 are almost a certainty, and being away from the the #1 and #2 overall seeds (Ky & 'Cuse) is a benefit of that.

According to this article by Seth Davis, he talks about the possibility of Duke(prior to today) being the highest ranked #2, yet still being played in same bracket as UK. So I don't think the above logic applies.

http://www.cnnsi.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/03/09/Selection.Sunday/index.html?sct=cb_t12_a2

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 6:41pm

centralbucksfan;1111750 wrote:According to this article by Seth Davis, he talks about the possibility of Duke(prior to today) being the highest ranked #2, yet still being played in same bracket as UK. So I don't think the above logic applies.

I'm just going by what Bilas said yesterday, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. Regardless, we've really positioned ourselves well...GO BUCKS!!

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:42pm

wildcats20;1111749 wrote:The only seed that is "ranked" are the four 1's.

Actually, they rank everyone, 1-68 and those will be released this year. The placement of the seeds is the question.

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 6:43pm

wildcats20;1111749 wrote:The only seed that is "ranked" are the four 1's.

Not true. The committee ranks them, even though it's not shown on the brackets.

wildcats20

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Mar 10, 2012 6:44pm

centralbucksfan;1111754 wrote:Actually, they rank everyone, 1-68 and those will be released this year. The placement of the seeds is the question.

Is that new for this year? Because in the past they have always said that only the 1's are ranked.

Edit.

Never mind. It's just that they don't give the number 1 overall the 4th 2. My bad.

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centralbucksfan

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Mar 10, 2012 6:46pm

wildcats20;1111758 wrote:Is that new for this year? Because in the past they have always said that only the 1's are ranked.

I believe they started to do that not long ago. But never released to media. They are going to release their overall rankings this after the bracket is released. Its in that Seth Davis SI article I posted.

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vball10set

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Mar 10, 2012 9:17pm

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/03/bucks-demolish-michigan-to-earn-spot-in-title-game#more

...Aaron Craft chipped in six points, four dimes and three steals while demolishing Trey Burke. In the PG matchup everyone wanted to see again, Craft limited Burke to five points on 1/11 shooting with eight turnovers. Burke’s first bucket was a meaningless one that cut Ohio State’s lead to 58-38 with just under seven minutes left in regulation.

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WebFire

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Mar 10, 2012 9:51pm

Michigan's plan has played out perfectly. You see, historically, the winner of the B1G doesn't fare too well in the NCAA tourney. Michigan lost today to avoid that happening to them.

Man OSU might be screwed!