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THE4RINGZ

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Mar 5, 2012 2:11 PM
I passed on the whole college thing as I barely had the grades to graduate from high school.
Mar 5, 2012 2:11pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:18 PM
THE4RINGZ;1105838 wrote:I passed on the whole college thing as I barely had the grades to graduate from high school.
Nothing wrong with that. No student loans is a good thing.
Mar 5, 2012 2:18pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:22 PM
DeyDurkie5;1105755 wrote:My main concern is getting a salaried job out of college with good pay. At this point, I'm leaning towards a computer information technology degree with a minor in either chinese or spanish. The CIT major has great pay starting out, and computer's should be around for a while. It's just a matter of pulling the trigger.
A 5 year CPA accounting program will basically set you for life

Double major Finance & Econ, Minor accounting (enough hours to sit for CPA though). Yes. Yes.
Mar 5, 2012 2:22pm
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dwccrew

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Mar 5, 2012 2:25 PM
Skyhook79;1105721 wrote:c. New Hope Christian College- Bachelor of Arts in Theology. God can use people like you.
I'm curious as to what kind of work you found with this particular degree. What is your profession?
Mar 5, 2012 2:25pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:30 PM
dwccrew;1105866 wrote:I'm curious as to what kind of work you found with this particular degree. What is your profession?
That is not my education and degree, that is my "suggestion" to DeyDurkie hence the "c".
At least I picked a school in Hawaii for him.
Mar 5, 2012 2:30pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:31 PM
dwccrew;1105866 wrote:I'm curious as to what kind of work you found with this particular degree. What is your profession?
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Mar 5, 2012 2:31pm
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dwccrew

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Mar 5, 2012 2:34 PM
Skyhook79;1105877 wrote:That is not my education and degree, that is my "suggestion" to DeyDurkie hence the "c".
At least I picked a school in Hawaii for him.
LOL, I missed the "c".
Mar 5, 2012 2:34pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:42 PM
After passing up a full ride in English … :laugh:

Elementary and Secondary Degree in Education from BGSU plus a minor in Sport Medicine
I was hired six week before graduation, during my student teaching into the Sylvania System.

You don’t have to know how to spell real good when you have real skills that spell out you’re really good.

I taught for five years, quit teaching and moved into Engineering sales and marketing.</SPAN>
Mar 5, 2012 2:42pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:44 PM
Belly35;1105889 wrote:After passing up a full ride in English &#8230; :laugh:

Elementary and Secondary Degree in Education from BGSU plus a minor in Sport Medicine
I was hired six week before graduation, during my student teaching into the Sylvania System.

You don&#8217;t have to know how to spell real good when you have real skills that spell out you&#8217;re really good.

I taught for five years, quit teaching and moved into Engineering sales and marketing.
So you're responsible for our nation's horrific grammar. Thanks. :)
Mar 5, 2012 2:44pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:47 PM
BTW, to answer the thread I have a BBA. Wish I could go back in time and get something else. However, I have landed a great job but I don't think it has anything to do with the degree, more to do with my work experience and military experience.

Durkie- make sure the degree you pursue is something that people are getting hired for obtaining. Do your research, so many students just go to school to get a degree thinking it will magically get them a job. Those days are long gone. Also make sure it is something you are interested in.
Mar 5, 2012 2:47pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:50 PM
dwccrew;1105896 wrote:BTW, to answer the thread I have a BBA. Wish I could go back in time and get something else. However, I have landed a great job but I don't think it has anything to do with the degree, more to do with my work experience and military experience.

Durkie- make sure the degree you pursue is something that people are getting hired for obtaining. Do your research, so many students just go to school to get a degree thinking it will magically get them a job. Those days are long gone. Also make sure it is something you are interested in.
Good advice, liking and being happy at what you do is more important than making more money and being miserable.
Mar 5, 2012 2:50pm
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4,145 posts
Mar 5, 2012 2:51 PM
BA in Bible/Theology: Pre-Seminary -- I had a part-time job in a non-profit music industry that I was at for 8-10 months and hated every bit of it.

I started substitute teaching and coaching more, which I loved. I knew I had to go back to school.

Master's in Educational Policy and Administration -- it was paid for (graduate assistantship) and it was one of my top three choices for a graduate degree, it also allowed me to coach in college.

Master's in Business Administration -- still doing it. It's paid for (graduate assistantship) and it was also in my top three choices for a graduate degree, it also allows me to continue coaching in college.

One of these days, I'll actually get a job (career) that I am pursuing. Hopefully, that will continue being a college coach. If not, then I should have a competitive resume for working in a school district or higher education institution, which is something that I could do. I'll need to start paying off these student loans from my undergrad one of these days as well. Can't wait to be done with classes. I am about classed-out.
Mar 5, 2012 2:51pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:54 PM
gorocks99;1105757 wrote:ITT Tech is shit, hope this helps.
This. I'm more of a U of Pheonix guy myself.
Mar 5, 2012 2:54pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:54 PM
dwccrew;1105896 wrote:BTW, to answer the thread I have a BBA. Wish I could go back in time and get something else. However, I have landed a great job but I don't think it has anything to do with the degree, more to do with my work experience and military experience.

Durkie- make sure the degree you pursue is something that people are getting hired for obtaining. Do your research, so many students just go to school to get a degree thinking it will magically get them a job. Those days are long gone. Also make sure it is something you are interested in.
Great advice, I'll second that!

That's something I never took into account when I was doing my undergrad. The other thing to do is pursue opportunities through undergrad that will help you be able to market yourself better. Do internships. Do volunteer work. Do stuff that will make you have a competitive resume. It is extremely important to have something that gives you more legitimacy than just a piece of paper that says "B.A." or "B.S." There are all kinds of opportunities out there, and most of the time the colleges won't help you with it. You'll have to do a lot of work on your own to find it...or asking people to help out -- and some institutions do provide that.
Mar 5, 2012 2:54pm
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Mar 5, 2012 2:57 PM
OSH;1105904 wrote:Great advice, I'll second that!

That's something I never took into account when I was doing my undergrad. The other thing to do is pursue opportunities through undergrad that will help you be able to market yourself better. Do internships. Do volunteer work. Do stuff that will make you have a competitive resume. It is extremely important to have something that gives you more legitimacy than just a piece of paper that says "B.A." or "B.S." There are all kinds of opportunities out there, and most of the time the colleges won't help you with it. You'll have to do a lot of work on your own to find it...or asking people to help out -- and some institutions do provide that.
And I will second this. Not enough students take advantage of internships and job fairs that are on campus. This is the best time to get experience and will separate you from other recent grads going for the same position.
Mar 5, 2012 2:57pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:11 PM
Education. Yes. Duh.
Mar 5, 2012 3:11pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:14 PM
I Wear Pants;1105891 wrote:So you're responsible for our nation's horrific grammar. Thanks. :)
Not really :) I think I tried to improve it is some way. I developed a program during my student teaching that would integrate EMR Students at a early period into the regular class room environment based on academic testing in subject matter and re-enforced positive behavior with additional physical activities. Many of the EMR Students academic skill level scores increased because of my program.

Wow! now that i think about it maybe i did ;)</SPAN>
Mar 5, 2012 3:14pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:15 PM
Degree from Indiana University in Sport Broadcast and Cmmunications.

Got a job off from Toledo ABC (channel 13) and turned it down for the chance to go after the sport side with another smaller company in Toledo. Pay is not great, but I actually look forward to working.
Mar 5, 2012 3:15pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:16 PM
sportchampps;1105787 wrote:Ive had friends graduate from the MIS Programs at OSU, OU, and ITT Tech. OSU and OU are almost always teaching dated material. The codes they teach are useless by the time students graduate. ITT Tech on the other hand updates their technology more regularly. All of my friends have found jobs but the one who graduated from ITT Tech had more options and found work much faster. A lot of Technology companies dont want to have to train you for 3 months to learn new code...
New code, what the hell are you talking about?! The &ldquo;hot code&rdquo; being sought after right now is based on the .net framework, but that&rsquo;s just Object Oriented Programming and they come in many flavors (C#, VB.net, Visual J#, etc&hellip;) The only thing that separates these languages is syntax, so OSU, OU, et al, may not be teaching all of these languages I guarantee they are teaching at least one, and they are undoubtedly teaching OOP! No one job expects you to know the syntax for every possible language, so this idea that ITT is better preparing you for these jobs is flat out wrong! I not only got my CS degree from a 4 year college, but I also worked and taught at an ITT tech type of school for two years and if anything these schools do nothing to prepare you for the real world. The work is watered down and slowed down. What I covered in one week in one of my programming classes took half a semester at this career college! You have no clue as to what you&rsquo;re talking about!

Oh, and the University of Phoenix Online is just as shitty as ITT tech!
Mar 5, 2012 3:16pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:18 PM
sportchampps;1105787 wrote:Ive had friends graduate from the MIS Programs at OSU, OU, and ITT Tech. OSU and OU are almost always teaching dated material. The codes they teach are useless by the time students graduate. ITT Tech on the other hand updates their technology more regularly. All of my friends have found jobs but the one who graduated from ITT Tech had more options and found work much faster. A lot of Technology companies dont want to have to train you for 3 months to learn new code so these companies hire people who have prior experience somewhere else or know the current codes being used. There are a few companies that will take the time to train their employees but in todays competive environment its easier for them to hire someone who was layed off and avoid the cost of training. I know my friends who graduated from OSU last fall actually went and took a few courses at Devry when he was done so he had more current Codes to list on his resume. He actually just got hired by Batelle a few weeks ago.

Now this field is completely different then pretty much everything else so OSU and OU are much better for everything else obviously.
I'm a junior MIS student at OU, having done an internship at a major manufacturing facility last summer along with another this summer I would say you are off base by saying that MIS students aren't learning up to date programming languages. The languages that are taught here were used at my internship developing a new order tracking system.

MIS isn't all about programming and writing applications either. Although much of what is taught is on system development, database design, and programming, many MIS majors go on to be business analysts, DB admins, etc.

As far as finding work in the field, just taking a look at the MIS job postings for OU students, there are between 50-100 postings for internships and 100-150 for entry-level positions. Most seniors I know that are about to graduate have 2 to 3 offers on the table. The level of resources provided by large state schools like OU or OSU dwarf what could be offered by ITT Tech. Much of the time hiring managers will toss ITT students applications away anyways.
Mar 5, 2012 3:18pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:31 PM
I just went to a trade school and got an Associated Degree in Diesel Technology. I got our after 9/11 when the trucking industry went to complete shit. It was either do that making $9.00 an hour, or lay natural gas line for $20 an hour. The Degree got pushed to the side. Haven't used it since.
Mar 5, 2012 3:31pm
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Mar 5, 2012 3:59 PM
GoChiefs;1105953 wrote:I just went to a trade school and got an Associated Degree in Diesel Technology. I got our after 9/11 when the trucking industry went to complete shit. It was either do that making $9.00 an hour, or lay natural gas line for $20 an hour. The Degree got pushed to the side. Haven't used it since.
No joke, everyone I know with a diesel tech with ASE certs works on buses or trash trucks.
Mar 5, 2012 3:59pm
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Mar 5, 2012 4:00 PM
c. - join the army
Mar 5, 2012 4:00pm
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Mar 5, 2012 5:10 PM
I will have a bachelors in mathematics and education in May. Might go after a MBA if I don't get my teaching job.
Mar 5, 2012 5:10pm
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Mar 5, 2012 5:32 PM
BA in strategic comm, business minor.

I had a job right out of college, but it wasn't in my desired field and the pay was garbage. I then moved around a bit and took some other jobs not in my field. It was about 18 months until I found myself at my current gig. It's in my desired field and the pay is ok, but like a lot of people out there...I'm always looking for more.
Mar 5, 2012 5:32pm