Homophobia still lives

Home Archive Politics Homophobia still lives
ernest_t_bass's avatar

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

24,984 posts
Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM
FairwoodKing;1078309 wrote:There's no hard evidence to support that theory. While it's true that we won't win everyone over, we will win enough hearts to provide us with the human rights we are now lacking, such as same-sex marriage.
Can you answer this question, and this question only, with an honest (honest, not political) response? Why do you want to be married to someone? Can't you be monogamous without being married?
Feb 7, 2012 11:47am
hasbeen's avatar

hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

6,504 posts
Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM
FairwoodKing;1078309 wrote:There's no hard evidence to support that theory. While it's true that we won't win everyone over, we will win enough hearts to provide us with the human rights we are now lacking, such as same-sex marriage.
Theres no hard evidence to support your theory. Burden of proof is on you bro!

But seriously, same-sex marriage is already moving forward. Probably not as fast as you'd like, but it still is.

And my point is this "younger generation" is still going to have a large segment of anti-gays.
Feb 7, 2012 11:55am
F

FairwoodKing

Senior Member

2,504 posts
Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM
ernest_t_bass;1078314 wrote:Can you answer this question, and this question only, with an honest (honest, not political) response? Why do you want to be married to someone? Can't you be monogamous without being married?
There are more than a hundred benefits married people get that unmarried people don't get. That includes straight people who are living together but not married. These include everything from hospital visitation rights to spousal insurance. I know a lovely lesbian couple in their 80s who have been together for 35 years. I would like to have one good reason why they shouldn't have all the rights association with marriage.
Feb 7, 2012 11:58am
bases_loaded's avatar

bases_loaded

Senior Member

6,912 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM
FairwoodKing;1078112 wrote:If you think the world is not overpopulated, then you are a sorrier fool than I gave you credit for. We gays are doing the world a favor. If you can't deal with that, then just shut your mouth and quit showing off your ignorance.
BY NOT REPRODUCING YOU ARE NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL.

BY NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL YOU ARE RETARDING THE GROWTH OF THE HUMAN RACE

/GENETICS
Feb 7, 2012 12:11pm
bases_loaded's avatar

bases_loaded

Senior Member

6,912 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM
Someone needs to do an experiment.

Take the sperm from a gay guy and the eggs from a lesbian and create a child.

Have child grow up in a solitary environment until they hit puberty. then place them in an environment with a male and female and see what happens.

Same experiment would also have to include a child from two non homos
Feb 7, 2012 12:16pm
ernest_t_bass's avatar

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

24,984 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM
FairwoodKing;1078333 wrote:There are more than a hundred benefits married people get that unmarried people don't get. That includes straight people who are living together but not married. These include everything from hospital visitation rights to spousal insurance. I know a lovely lesbian couple in their 80s who have been together for 35 years. I would like to have one good reason why they shouldn't have all the rights association with marriage.
So you just want it for the benefits then?
Feb 7, 2012 12:18pm
Q

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

7,117 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:19 PM
bases_loaded;1078350 wrote:BY NOT REPRODUCING YOU ARE NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL.

BY NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL YOU ARE RETARDING THE GROWTH OF THE HUMAN RACE

/GENETICS
If this is really your stance, you must also be opposed to couples getting married who are beyond their child-bearing years.
Feb 7, 2012 12:19pm
F

FairwoodKing

Senior Member

2,504 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM
ernest_t_bass;1078361 wrote:So you just want it for the benefits then?
That's the primary reason.
Feb 7, 2012 12:27pm
F

FairwoodKing

Senior Member

2,504 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM
bases_loaded;1078350 wrote:BY NOT REPRODUCING YOU ARE NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL.

BY NOT ADVANCING THE GENE POOL YOU ARE RETARDING THE GROWTH OF THE HUMAN RACE

/GENETICS
We have over 6 billion people on this planet. I hardly think I'm retarding the growth of anything.
Feb 7, 2012 12:31pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:52 PM
State sanctioned marriage is a human right? LOL
Feb 7, 2012 12:52pm
ernest_t_bass's avatar

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

24,984 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:53 PM
FairwoodKing;1078333 wrote:There are more than a hundred benefits married people get that unmarried people don't get. That includes straight people who are living together but not married. These include everything from hospital visitation rights to spousal insurance. I know a lovely lesbian couple in their 80s who have been together for 35 years. I would like to have one good reason why they shouldn't have all the rights association with marriage.
This also sounds like it is more geared towards the private sector, and not the public. So you're saying you want the govt. to tell businesses what to do ... even more?
Feb 7, 2012 12:53pm
password's avatar

password

Senior Member

2,360 posts
Feb 7, 2012 12:57 PM
FairwoodKing;1078375 wrote:That's the primary reason.
So getting married means nothing more to you than getting free benefits from the government? Just go on welfare and be done with it because not once have you stated that gays want to get married because they love their partner, you are only concerned with extra benefits that a real married couple receives. It is because of people like you that most people can't stand gays and their entitlement propaganda.
Feb 7, 2012 12:57pm
ts1227's avatar

ts1227

Senior Member

12,319 posts
Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM
password;1078411 wrote:So getting married means nothing more to you than getting free benefits from the government? Just go on welfare and be done with it because not once have you stated that gays want to get married because they love their partner, you are only concerned with extra benefits that a real married couple receives. It is because of people like you that most people can't stand gays and their entitlement propaganda.

That's all marriage is in the eyes of the law. Anyone not religious is essentially doing it for the tax break that shouldn't exist
Feb 7, 2012 1:09pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 7, 2012 1:23 PM
ts1227;1078424 wrote:That's all marriage is in the eyes of the law. Anyone not religious is essentially doing it for the tax break that shouldn't exist
Exactly. If we allow gays to marry, what's stopping me from marrying my dog? Can I file my taxes under married?
Feb 7, 2012 1:23pm
Glory Days's avatar

Glory Days

Senior Member

7,809 posts
Feb 7, 2012 2:01 PM
queencitybuckeye;1078364 wrote:If this is really your stance, you must also be opposed to couples getting married who are beyond their child-bearing years.
i think it was you who brought this up before. it fails because even though they phsyically cant reproduce, the primal urge is still there.
Feb 7, 2012 2:01pm
Q

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

7,117 posts
Feb 7, 2012 2:02 PM
Glory Days;1078485 wrote:i think it was you who brought this up before. it fails because even though they phsyically cant reproduce, the primal urge is still there.
Why would "the primal urge" be a prerequisite for marriage?
Feb 7, 2012 2:02pm
password's avatar

password

Senior Member

2,360 posts
Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM
ts1227;1078424 wrote:That's all marriage is in the eyes of the law. Anyone not religious is essentially doing it for the tax break that shouldn't exist
I agree with the tax break not needing to exist for married couples. I do think some people do it for more than the tax break, such as having a family.
Feb 7, 2012 2:57pm
bases_loaded's avatar

bases_loaded

Senior Member

6,912 posts
Feb 7, 2012 4:05 PM
queencitybuckeye;1078490 wrote:Why would "the primal urge" be a prerequisite for marriage?

I think you are arguing for something I wasn't stating. I never mentioned marriage, you brought that up. From an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is an end game, thus anti species, and ABNORMAL.
Feb 7, 2012 4:05pm
Q

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

7,117 posts
Feb 7, 2012 4:08 PM
bases_loaded;1078726 wrote:I think you are arguing for something I wasn't stating.
That is the current subject matter of the topic. It may not have started there, but miss a little, miss a lot.
Feb 7, 2012 4:08pm
bases_loaded's avatar

bases_loaded

Senior Member

6,912 posts
Feb 7, 2012 4:14 PM
queencitybuckeye;1078729 wrote:That is the current subject matter of the topic. It may not have started there, but miss a little, miss a lot.

You quoted me and asked about marriage, my post said nothing about marriage.
Feb 7, 2012 4:14pm
I

isadore

Senior Member

7,762 posts
Feb 7, 2012 5:33 PM
sleeper;1078398 wrote:State sanctioned marriage is a human right? LOL
yep, according to the United States Supreme Court, state sanctioned marriage is "basic civil rights of man"
Feb 7, 2012 5:33pm
sleeper's avatar

sleeper

Legend

27,879 posts
Feb 7, 2012 6:29 PM
isadore;1078792 wrote:yep, according to the United States Supreme Court, state sanctioned marriage is "basic civil rights of man"
Define marriage.
Feb 7, 2012 6:29pm
Skyhook79's avatar

Skyhook79

Senior Member

5,739 posts
Feb 7, 2012 6:50 PM
I think it's pretty clear that the one that suffers from homophobia on this thread is fairwoodking.
Feb 7, 2012 6:50pm
Mooney44Cards's avatar

Mooney44Cards

Senior Member

2,754 posts
Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM
This is about par for the course for a forum full of people from Ohio.

Two gay guys get beat up and humiliated by a cop for being gay, and its treated as suspect and "gays need to quit whining". Hilarious. We don't get more tolerant/empathetic over time, it seems, just change what we decide to be tolerant/empathetic about.

By the way, straight homophobic men are more sexually aroused by homosexual sex than straight non-homophobic men. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
Feb 7, 2012 7:46pm
F

FairwoodKing

Senior Member

2,504 posts
Feb 7, 2012 8:01 PM
Skyhook79;1078838 wrote:I think it's pretty clear that the one that suffers from homophobia on this thread is fairwoodking.
You obviously don't even know the definition of homophobia or you wouldn't make such a bonehead remark.
Feb 7, 2012 8:01pm