robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 2:46pm
Prelims were great as well last night.
robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 3:39pm
Nate really didn't look himself last night, he was very hesitant on the feet and maybe the eye injury had something to do with it. Props to Ben Henderson though he was very impressive and it was a great performance.
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Zoltan
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Dec 9, 2012 6:42pm
He was hesitant because he was totally outclassed by a superior athlete. Benson's leg kicks hurt him, his punching him in the face on the feet hurt him, and his beating him on the ground hurt him too. Really good performance by Benson. His cardio is maybe the best in MMA.robj55;1339185 wrote:Nate really didn't look himself last night, he was very hesitant on the feet and maybe the eye injury had something to do with it. Props to Ben Henderson though he was very impressive and it was a great performance.
I didn't like to see Rory toying with BJ like that and trying to humiliate him and prolong the beating. I think Rory has some resentment inside him for being overshadowed by GSP. I would LOVE to see him turn into an angry villain type character who wants to take GSP out. Not going to happen, but man would it be awesome if they had a falling out like Jones/Evans.
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jmog
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Dec 9, 2012 6:42pm
0-4...of course I can't poke fun because I didn't list who I thought would win.End of Line;1338350 wrote:Rousey/Carmouche is going to flop on PPV buys. It doesn't appeal to people regardless of how much you promote it. Once she faces Cyborg and Cyborg kicks her ass, we most likely won't be having this conversation anymore.
As for tomorrow night;
Diaz
Shogun
Penn
Swick
Man, did Diaz get the crap kicked out of him.
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jmog
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Dec 9, 2012 6:44pm
Gustafson just beat the crap out of the last LWH champ before Bones.bigdaddy2003;1338710 wrote:I didn't care for Rory shuffling in the octagon like he was Ali. I also don't think Gustafson earned himself a title shot.
What else does he need to do?
robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 6:48pm
I think he was hesitant because he couldn't see, and got dropped a couple times because of it. The leg kicks were effective but Ben was just too big and strong last night. Nate should have went for the knee bar but he said he didn't want to exhaust himself with only one eye and not be able to protect himself. Impressive performance by Benson.Zoltan;1339320 wrote:He was hesitant because he was totally outclassed by a superior athlete. Benson's leg kicks hurt him, his punching him in the face on the feet hurt him, and his beating him on the ground hurt him too. Really good performance by Benson. His cardio is maybe the best in MMA.
I didn't like to see Rory toying with BJ like that and trying to humiliate him and prolong the beating. I think Rory has some resentment inside him for being overshadowed by GSP. I would LOVE to see him turn into an angry villain type character who wants to take GSP out. Not going to happen, but man would it be awesome if they had a falling out like Jones/Evans.
robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 6:49pm
That fight was a lot closer than most are making it seem. Gus won but that was no domination by any means imo.jmog;1339322 wrote:Gustafson just beat the crap out of the last LWH champ before Bones.
What else does he need to do?
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jmog
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Dec 9, 2012 7:02pm
I didn't say it was domination, but its hard to dominate one of the best fighters of all time. Beating one of the best fighters of all time (and a very recent champ) should be enough to validate a title shot.robj55;1339329 wrote:That fight was a lot closer than most are making it seem. Gus won but that was no domination by any means imo.
It was close, but it was no doubt that Gus won so that should be enough for a title shot.
You typically don't dominate the best fighters of all time.
bigdaddy2003
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Dec 9, 2012 7:12pm
I guess I just wasn't impressed by his performance. I guess he's earned a title shot but I can't see him having much of a chnce against Bones.jmog;1339322 wrote:Gustafson just beat the crap out of the last LWH champ before Bones.
What else does he need to do?
robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 7:43pm
I don't understand why Shogun doesn't come in and fight calculated and measured like he did in his two fights with Machida, he is basically a technical brawler now and the wear is starting to show. 2 years ago he would have knocked out Gus imo, now he is 31 going on 45. Still love him though.jmog;1339333 wrote:I didn't say it was domination, but its hard to dominate one of the best fighters of all time. Beating one of the best fighters of all time (and a very recent champ) should be enough to validate a title shot.
It was close, but it was no doubt that Gus won so that should be enough for a title shot.
You typically don't dominate the best fighters of all time.
robj55
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Dec 9, 2012 7:44pm
Dana said that if Hendo isn't ready to go that Gus could fight Machida I guess.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 10, 2012 8:24am
Is Hendo hurt? why does he keep getting screwed?
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 1:07pm
Dana said that he keeps hearing that Dan isn't healthy and that if he isn't they may go in another direction.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 10, 2012 1:41pm
Dan tweeted he was doing great. If he screws Hendo over again I'd be pissed.
Hb31187
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Dec 10, 2012 2:18pm
One Diaz brother down in a title fight, one to go. At least this one DESERVED his title shot, unlike older brother lol.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 10, 2012 2:46pm
I like watching them fight, but I totally agree that Nick doesn't deserve it. It makes it less sport and more entertainment having him and Sonnen get title shots. I expect both to lose, but still.Hb31187;1339846 wrote:One Diaz brother down in a title fight, one to go. At least this one DESERVED his title shot, unlike older brother lol.
Hb31187
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Dec 10, 2012 2:58pm
Yeah i totally get why Chael and Nick get the fights, but its just politics and unfair to the other fighters really. But it is what it isRaw Dawgin' it;1339867 wrote:I like watching them fight, but I totally agree that Nick doesn't deserve it. It makes it less sport and more entertainment having him and Sonnen get title shots. I expect both to lose, but still.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 10, 2012 3:17pm
Just because Lakers and Celtics in the finals will make more money doesn't mean if the Lakers make it and the Celtics lose to the Heat you make the match up anyways. Honestly, the more i think about the Chael/Jones fight the less I want to watch it ha.Hb31187;1339880 wrote:Yeah i totally get why Chael and Nick get the fights, but its just politics and unfair to the other fighters really. But it is what it is
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 3:42pm
I kinda feel like Dana still holds a grudge over Dan from a few years back when they were negotiating a deal and Hendo went to Strikeforce.Raw Dawgin' it;1339800 wrote:Dan tweeted he was doing great. If he screws Hendo over again I'd be pissed.
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 3:47pm
The UFC is a business, they are going to put on the fights that sell. Yes they have the FOX deal but they are still PPV king and it is all about PPV. As far as Nick not deserving the fight, a lot of people thought he won rounds 1,2 and 5 against Condit. Not getting into that but GSP was the one who ASKED for Nick, he wants to fight him and Dana said he felt obliged to give GSP the fight because he has never asked for anything and been such a good employee. Nothing is official yet so IDK why people are getting all pissy about it. Hendricks has been promised a shot so he isn't getting screwed over. Nate has to hope that someone like Pettis can beat Bendo again and work his way back up winning 3 or 4 in a row, still a top 5 LW and a nightmare fight for almost anyone.
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 3:49pm
The Chael situation is way different imo, he is coming off a tko loss and is coming from an entirely different division, he hasn't even fought at 205 in like 8 years so no history there.
Hb31187
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Dec 10, 2012 4:18pm
Not pissy persay about it, just that politics are messy and not really fair to other fighters at times. Itd be like the Colts reaching the SB and the Redskins losing in the NFC championship game to lets say the Falcons and the NFL saying " Well, Atlanta even though you won your last fight and earned your right to be in the Superbowl, RGIII vs Luck would be a much better selling point for us, so we're gonna let them advance even though they lost". Also helps that I despise the diaz brothers lol
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 4:21pm
That's a hard comparison, the NFL is a network tv model and the UFC is a PPV model. If you dislike them then surely you want to see GSP give Nick and ass whoopin like most do! lolHb31187;1339957 wrote:Not pissy persay about it, just that politics are messy and not really fair to other fighters at times. Itd be like the Colts reaching the SB and the Redskins losing in the NFC championship game to lets say the Falcons and the NFL saying " Well, Atlanta even though you won your last fight and earned your right to be in the Superbowl, RGIII vs Luck would be a much better selling point for us, so we're gonna let them advance even though they lost". Also helps that I despise the diaz brothers lol
Hb31187
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Dec 10, 2012 4:24pm
Id actually prefer the scoreboard of whichever arena this is being held into fall directly onto the octagon haharobj55;1339961 wrote:That's a hard comparison, the NFL is a network tv model and the UFC is a PPV model. If you dislike them then surely you want to see GSP give Nick and ass whoopin like most do! lol
robj55
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Dec 10, 2012 4:24pm
lmaoHb31187;1339968 wrote:Id actually prefer the scoreboard of whichever arena this is being held into fall directly onto the octagon haha