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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Feb 21, 2010 7:23pm
I'm was really surprised that Stevenson got beat. George Sotiropoulos could be a future loser to BJ Penn.
Is Silva going to be staying around at Middleweight now? He has no hope at beating any of the big names in the L.Hvy division.
Is Silva going to be staying around at Middleweight now? He has no hope at beating any of the big names in the L.Hvy division.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Feb 21, 2010 9:18pm
how could bisping think he won. He didnt do any damage. Bisping has lost to every person he has fought who is good. Silva is the same Silva as he is before but did look better at his new weight class. Cain looked awesome. Bader beat his first true oppenent and seems to be ready for more. Cro Cop beat some guy from off the streets. Joe Daddy got dominated. I missed the prefights who won the Bonner fight?
By the way my pet peeve last night was them saying Bisping kept getting takedowns. I define a takedown as putting ur oppenent on the mat and having control. At one point they kept saying Bisping took Sila down atleast 5 times when what in fact happened was Bisping attempted a takedown and they both went to the mat and silva almost choked him out. in what way is that a takedown if you never have any control.
By the way my pet peeve last night was them saying Bisping kept getting takedowns. I define a takedown as putting ur oppenent on the mat and having control. At one point they kept saying Bisping took Sila down atleast 5 times when what in fact happened was Bisping attempted a takedown and they both went to the mat and silva almost choked him out. in what way is that a takedown if you never have any control.
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This_DJ_3
Posts: 269
Feb 21, 2010 10:49pm
^^^^^Bonnar lost via doctor stoppage.
Bisping is a feather fisted toolbag who thinks he's much much better than he is. He can't beat any top ten middleweight IMO.
There is a big focus on takedowns in the scoring system in MMA, I'm also a firm believer that they should be followed by some sort of damage or control in order to score points. If you take someone down and they get right back up, why should that be considered more meaningful than a simple landed punch?
The most recent example i can think of is Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva. Evans won that fight solely on takedowns. Thats all he did. Didn't win any exchanges, never kept Silva down for more than 20 secs, never even landed a GNP punch that i can remember, gets rocked in the 3rd round, almost knocked out, yet he wins a unanimous decision.
This is not wrestling, its MMA, and i think there needs to be more focus on octagon CONTROL, than just takedowns, b/c if you can't control someone after a takedown then what good did it really do?
Bisping is a feather fisted toolbag who thinks he's much much better than he is. He can't beat any top ten middleweight IMO.
There is a big focus on takedowns in the scoring system in MMA, I'm also a firm believer that they should be followed by some sort of damage or control in order to score points. If you take someone down and they get right back up, why should that be considered more meaningful than a simple landed punch?
The most recent example i can think of is Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva. Evans won that fight solely on takedowns. Thats all he did. Didn't win any exchanges, never kept Silva down for more than 20 secs, never even landed a GNP punch that i can remember, gets rocked in the 3rd round, almost knocked out, yet he wins a unanimous decision.
This is not wrestling, its MMA, and i think there needs to be more focus on octagon CONTROL, than just takedowns, b/c if you can't control someone after a takedown then what good did it really do?
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detectivegibbles
Posts: 337
Feb 22, 2010 1:24am
anyone have links to the fights? I am struggling to find them...
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This_DJ_3
Posts: 269
Feb 22, 2010 1:39pm
www.lowkick.com type the names of the fighters into the search field
speaking of lowkick.com here is the article about Frank Mir running off at the mouth about Lesnar:
http://www.lowkick.com/UFC/Mir-Wants-Lesnar-To-Die-In-The-Cage-6638
speaking of lowkick.com here is the article about Frank Mir running off at the mouth about Lesnar:
http://www.lowkick.com/UFC/Mir-Wants-Lesnar-To-Die-In-The-Cage-6638
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Eric Taylor
Posts: 602
Feb 22, 2010 1:50pm
Anyone else hear of the article where Frank Mir says he wants to kill Brock Lesnar?
Says he wants Lesnar to be the first person to die in a UFC and he will break his neck.
Says he wants Lesnar to be the first person to die in a UFC and he will break his neck.
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This_DJ_3
Posts: 269
Feb 22, 2010 1:52pm
check the post above yoursEric Taylor wrote: Anyone else hear of the article where Frank Mir says he wants to kill Brock Lesnar?
Says he wants Lesnar to be the first person to die in a UFC and he will break his neck.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Feb 22, 2010 2:17pm
Mir is an Ass Clown.Eric Taylor wrote: Anyone else hear of the article where Frank Mir says he wants to kill Brock Lesnar?
Says he wants Lesnar to be the first person to die in a UFC and he will break his neck.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Feb 22, 2010 2:51pm
Mir can talk all the trash he wants he will again eat those words when Brock shoves his fists down his throat!!
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Feb 22, 2010 3:29pm
I have been impressed with Sotiropolous (sp?) since his days on TUF.
I really believe he's the only guy in the UFC at LW that can hang with BJPenn on the ground.
Unfortunately for him, he can't hang with BJ standing, and won't be able to take BJ down.
If, and I do mean if, his standup gets lightyears better, he could contend, but if not BJ will just beat the snot out of him standing up and not let the fight go to the ground.
I really believe he's the only guy in the UFC at LW that can hang with BJPenn on the ground.
Unfortunately for him, he can't hang with BJ standing, and won't be able to take BJ down.
If, and I do mean if, his standup gets lightyears better, he could contend, but if not BJ will just beat the snot out of him standing up and not let the fight go to the ground.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Feb 23, 2010 12:57am
Sotiropolous is very good still not close to penn though. I always thought he would win his season of TUF but he got beat by the one physical freak farmer tommy. Has anyone heard or seen what happen to Tommy. I used to remember thinking that with real training he could be amazing.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Feb 23, 2010 9:51am
Double Post...
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Feb 23, 2010 9:58am
The problem with Sotiropolous on the show vs Tommy Speer was that Speer had to cut a ton of weight to fight at 170 on the show while Sotiropolous is a natural 155er and fighting "up" just to be on the show.sportchampps wrote: Sotiropolous is very good still not close to penn though. I always thought he would win his season of TUF but he got beat by the one physical freak farmer tommy. Has anyone heard or seen what happen to Tommy. I used to remember thinking that with real training he could be amazing.
I bet by fight time Speer weight at least 15-20 lbs heavier than Sotiropolous.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Feb 23, 2010 8:10pm
Frank Mir apologizes for death comments regarding Lesnar:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18060/frank-mir-issues-apology-after-brock-lesnar-death-comments.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18060/frank-mir-issues-apology-after-brock-lesnar-death-comments.mma
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Feb 23, 2010 8:19pm
I'm not sure whose the bigger dbag Mir or Lesner. Both are pieces of shit.
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Feb 23, 2010 9:20pm
I'm not a big fan of either Mir or Lesnar. Mir talks about himself like he's a sure-fire hall-of-famer and UFC legend. I never had a problem with Lesnar until I watched him flip off the fans at UFC 100. That didn't sit well with me.
I definitely thought George was going to be the champion on his season of TUF. Him vs. Mac Danzig would definitely have been a better finale than Speer v. Danzig.
I definitely thought George was going to be the champion on his season of TUF. Him vs. Mac Danzig would definitely have been a better finale than Speer v. Danzig.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Feb 23, 2010 9:25pm
I like Brock, I wasn't happy after his antics after smashing Mir in their second fight but that was I think the WWE in him still and some sure hostility towards those who doubted him and his abilities. I think he has since calmed himself.
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This_DJ_3
Posts: 269
Feb 23, 2010 9:52pm
I like Brock as well. Lesnar is just matter of fact, he's a straight shooter who doesn't bullshit you when he speaks. He's a simple guy. He doesn't throw the first stone, and he never really said much about Mir leading up to the fight and so after he kicked his ass, he got amped up and told him about it b/c in Lesnar's book you shouldn't open your mouth if you can't back it up, when in Mir's world he can talk himself into believing he has a chance to "snap Brock's neck".Fab1b wrote: I like Brock, I wasn't happy after his antics after smashing Mir in their second fight but that was I think the WWE in him still and some sure hostility towards those who doubted him and his abilities. I think he has since calmed himself.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 1, 2010 1:43pm
Good month MMA fans:
WEC this coming Saturday 3/6 free on VS
UFC Sun 3/21 free on VS
UFC St Pierre/Hardy PPV Sat 3/27
UFC fight night free on Spike Wed 3/31
TUF new season debut following UFC Fight Night Wed 3/31
WEC this coming Saturday 3/6 free on VS
UFC Sun 3/21 free on VS
UFC St Pierre/Hardy PPV Sat 3/27
UFC fight night free on Spike Wed 3/31
TUF new season debut following UFC Fight Night Wed 3/31
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Mar 1, 2010 1:52pm
This.This_DJ_3 wrote:I like Brock as well. Lesnar is just matter of fact, he's a straight shooter who doesn't bullshit you when he speaks. He's a simple guy. He doesn't throw the first stone, and he never really said much about Mir leading up to the fight and so after he kicked his ass, he got amped up and told him about it b/c in Lesnar's book you shouldn't open your mouth if you can't back it up, when in Mir's world he can talk himself into believing he has a chance to "snap Brock's neck".Fab1b wrote: I like Brock, I wasn't happy after his antics after smashing Mir in their second fight but that was I think the WWE in him still and some sure hostility towards those who doubted him and his abilities. I think he has since calmed himself.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 1, 2010 5:22pm
Cast of the upcoming season of TUF: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AsmbAn3XUZWxXARtxvLmJM09Eo14?slug=ys-mmaweek030110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Charles Blanchard I know personally as he wrestled for Sandalwood HS in Jacksonville, FL. Was a state runner up wrestler his senior year. I just got off the phone with his high school coach who now refs with me.
Charles Blanchard I know personally as he wrestled for Sandalwood HS in Jacksonville, FL. Was a state runner up wrestler his senior year. I just got off the phone with his high school coach who now refs with me.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 1, 2010 5:48pm
Fedor will not fight on Strikeforce's CBS April 17th Card. Henderson vs Shields will headline but the fight I am hoping for on this card is Gegard Mousasi (28-2-1) defending against Mohammed “King Mo” Lawal (6-0). Mo is an established wrestler who has made a wonderful transition to MMA.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AkHWID6WsB3L5rn1ZNr4Cfg9Eo14?slug=dm-sfplans022710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AkHWID6WsB3L5rn1ZNr4Cfg9Eo14?slug=dm-sfplans022710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 1, 2010 7:37pm
Arlovski signs with Strikeforce could meet Antonio Silva 5/15:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18132/andrei-arlovski-signs-with-strikeforce-meets-antonio-silva-may-15-in-st-louis.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18132/andrei-arlovski-signs-with-strikeforce-meets-antonio-silva-may-15-in-st-louis.mma
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 1, 2010 7:58pm
Four free events along with the free prelim fights for the PPV. March is going to be a good month...especially if I'm home from the state wrestling meet in time for the WEC card.Fab1b wrote: Good month MMA fans:
WEC this coming Saturday 3/6 free on VS
UFC Sun 3/21 free on VS
UFC St Pierre/Hardy PPV Sat 3/27
UFC fight night free on Spike Wed 3/31
TUF new season debut following UFC Fight Night Wed 3/31
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 1, 2010 9:01pm
Alistair Overeem confirms May 15 Strikeforce fight with Brett Rogers and says some interesting things about Fedor as well:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18133/champ-alistair-overeem-confirms-may-15-strikeforce-fight-with-brett-rogers.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18133/champ-alistair-overeem-confirms-may-15-strikeforce-fight-with-brett-rogers.mma
The chance of a long-rumored fight with Fedor Emelianenko appears to be a longshot. Emelianenko will not appear on Strikeforce's second CBS-televised event, which is set for April 17 in Nashville, Tenn., and he is currently in a contract dispute with the San Jose, Calif.-based promotion. He is rumored to be fighting on the May 15 card against an unnamed opponent.
While Overeem counts the top-ranked Russian among his targets stateside, there is too much red tape between them.
"Fedor doesn't want to fight," Overeem said. "His manager doesn't want to fight. That's basically the message I'm getting out of all of this. The management said, 'Yeah, we want to fight Alistair, but first, Alistair must fight somebody else.' Basically, you need two parties to agree on a fight. Otherwise it's not going to happen.
"And now, I don't know what is going to happen because I think [Fedor] might want to leave Strikeforce. I'm not really occupied with the situation; I'm just focused on myself and my training."
Overeem was more than happy, though, to take on Rogers, who has called him out on several occasions and demanded he defend his title or give up the belt.