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I Wear Pants
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Dec 13, 2011 12:10am
Because if he wasn't winning no one would be talking about him at all nor would they see any interviews. Can't dislike someone you don't know.hoops23;1013173 wrote:Of course nobody is going to say it. But if Jones wasn't winning, nobody would be saying shit about him, so obviously it has a lot to do with it.
Over analyzing somebody based on how genuine you think they are is a tad foolish, IMO.
Jones has done quite a few good deeds that I've seen. Things he hasn't had to do, yet did them anyway.
I think the guy is a good dude who is trying to be himself, but he's still getting used to all of this newfound success. People forget just how young and brief his career is, yet he's now being considered as the face of the UFC.
That's a lot to take in, especially in such a short time frame.
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sportchampps
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Dec 13, 2011 12:27am
jones the tebow of mma
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sportchampps
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Dec 13, 2011 12:33am
Why? It is only illagal because when the UFC went in front of judges the defense showed a MA breaking blocks with the 12-6 and thought it was to harmful. In reality the 12-6 does the same damage as in 11-5 elbow. bad logic is the only reason its not allowed12-6 should definitely be illegal.
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Dec 13, 2011 12:40am
No, a 12-6 elbow opens cuts much more easily.sportchampps;1013186 wrote:Why? It is only illagal because when the UFC went in front of judges the defense showed a MA breaking blocks with the 12-6 and thought it was to harmful. In reality the 12-6 does the same damage as in 11-5 elbow. bad logic is the only reason its not allowed
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Dec 13, 2011 12:40am
No, Jones has beat good fighters.sportchampps;1013184 wrote:jones the tebow of mma
hoops23
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Dec 13, 2011 12:56am
12-6 elbows should be illegal. They are way too dangerous.
In fact, Jones' only loss has been because of illegal elbows against Matt Hammill (in a fight that should have been stopped in Jones' favor far before that incident though)...
You can't outlaw elbows outright though, and to mention to do so is both impractical and foolish.
Elbows are as much MMA as kicks are. They are a versatile weapon when used correctly.
In fact, Jones' only loss has been because of illegal elbows against Matt Hammill (in a fight that should have been stopped in Jones' favor far before that incident though)...
You can't outlaw elbows outright though, and to mention to do so is both impractical and foolish.
Elbows are as much MMA as kicks are. They are a versatile weapon when used correctly.
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Dec 13, 2011 1:08am
I agree that elbows are a legitimate weapon, but the problem is that they can be used merely to open cuts and get stoppages rather than to damage the opponent.hoops23;1013191 wrote:12-6 elbows should be illegal. They are way too dangerous.
In fact, Jones' only loss has been because of illegal elbows against Matt Hammill (in a fight that should have been stopped in Jones' favor far before that incident though)...
You can't outlaw elbows outright though, and to mention to do so is both impractical and foolish.
Elbows are as much MMA as kicks are. They are a versatile weapon when used correctly.
That is why they shouldn't be banned though.
End of Line
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Dec 13, 2011 1:41am
The 12-6 elbow should be illegal.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 13, 2011 7:59am
Yeshoops23;1012713 wrote:You buying that vid?
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26512/trainer-jackson-clarifies-get-some-fans-comments-following-jones-ufc-140-win.mma
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 13, 2011 8:03am
Actually...i think he does.Hb31187;1013036 wrote:So what exactly do people have against Bones? Its not like hes overly cocky or comes off as a douchebag. What does he do to rub people the wrong way? For how much success hes had in such a short time, he seems very humble for a young young fighter
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 13, 2011 8:07am
I just think they should be banned on the ground...but that's just my opinion. I agree with the first part of your post.I Wear Pants;1013193 wrote:I agree that elbows are a legitimate weapon, but the problem is that they can be used merely to open cuts and get stoppages rather than to damage the opponent.
That is why they shouldn't be banned though.
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Zoltan
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Dec 13, 2011 12:52pm
Dana claims to be worried about Wand's health and then announces this. SMH
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26527/vitor-belfort-wanderlei-silva-named-coaches-of-the-ultimate-fighter-brazil.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26527/vitor-belfort-wanderlei-silva-named-coaches-of-the-ultimate-fighter-brazil.mma
robj55
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Dec 13, 2011 1:19pm
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Dec 13, 2011 1:43pm
Personally I thought the best one Jones did was when a normal fan/follower on twitter asked if he could meet Jones at the airport to get a signature for his kid and Jones did it no questions asked.robj55;1013638 wrote:http://www.graciemag.com/en/2011/12/jones-busts-out-portuguese-to-send-lyoto-a-message/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Classy by Jones
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 13, 2011 2:16pm
Hb31187
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Dec 13, 2011 2:53pm
I guess to each their own.Raw Dawgin' it;1013263 wrote:Actually...i think he does.
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sportchampps
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Dec 13, 2011 4:23pm
A 12-6 elbow is no different then a 11-5 elbow or a 1-7 elbow. Here's a Dr and his view on the matter. http://mmajunkie.com/news/17153/ask-the-doc-should-12-to-6-elbow-strikes-be-illegal-in-mixed-martial-arts.mma
hoops23
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Dec 13, 2011 9:18pm
And who gives a fuck what you think?Raw Dawgin' it;1013263 wrote:Actually...i think he does.
LOL
Scarlet_Buckeye
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Dec 14, 2011 8:22am
I'm somewhat confused here...Zoltan;1013594 wrote:Dana claims to be worried about Wand's health and then announces this. SMH
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26527/vitor-belfort-wanderlei-silva-named-coaches-of-the-ultimate-fighter-brazil.mma
It was previously announced that Cruz and Faber would be the TUF coaches. Now, I'm reading Belfort and W.Silva have been named coaches of TUF: Brazil.
Are they going to run two separate shows and air them both?
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 14, 2011 8:28am
Yeah. I think the Brazil one might air on fuel. But Faber/Cruz is the new TUF: Live formatScarlet_Buckeye;1014372 wrote:I'm somewhat confused here...
It was previously announced that Cruz and Faber would be the TUF coaches. Now, I'm reading Belfort and W.Silva have been named coaches of TUF: Brazil.
Are they going to run two separate shows and air them both?
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 14, 2011 8:29am
I sure a shit don't...hoops23;1014141 wrote:And who gives a fuck what you think?
LOL
Scarlet_Buckeye
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Dec 14, 2011 8:32am
Agreed. (And I hope you weren't being sarcastic).robj55;1013638 wrote:http://www.graciemag.com/en/2011/12/jones-busts-out-portuguese-to-send-lyoto-a-message/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Classy by Jones
Scarlet_Buckeye
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Dec 14, 2011 8:39am
<s>@</s>Jonnybones is the 1st light heavyweight titlist since <s>@</s>ChuckLiddell to defend his belt on 2 occasions, ending the round-robin of champions.
Scarlet_Buckeye
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Dec 14, 2011 8:40am
Hmmm.Raw Dawgin' it;1014382 wrote:Yeah. I think the Brazil one might air on fuel. But Faber/Cruz is the new TUF: Live format
Thanks for the clarification.
While I'm always excited for more FREE fights, as Colin Cowherd likes to say, less is more (meaning, I hope this does not "dilute" the product).
Raw Dawgin' it
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Dec 14, 2011 8:58am
They have so many fighters. I think it's good since some of the lesser known guys will be on free shows so they can get their names out there.Scarlet_Buckeye;1014389 wrote:Hmmm.
Thanks for the clarification.
While I'm always excited for more FREE fights, as Colin Cowherd likes to say, less is more (meaning, I hope this does not "dilute" the product).
I will say i think adding an 8th division, 125lbs, is too many divisions