gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jan 10, 2012 10:07am
I'll rep thatTiernan;1046727 wrote:Awww fuck i'll call it on myself before one of you braniacs does...Bama went 14 - 0 when they beat TX in 2010. Anyway my main point was LSU proved to be very average.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 10, 2012 10:29am
This is why we need competition for ESPN. ESPN won't write or have their talking heads say that kind of stuff because the SEC is their league at this point. They won't trash their own investment. ESPN has way too much sway over people's opinions and perception of sporting events. Normally that would not matter, but the amount of money that is at stake in sporting entertainment, it is shady what ESPN does.FatHobbit;1046715 wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_alabama_lsu_bad_bcs_title_game_010912
Apparently yahoo thought the title game was awful.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2012 10:37am
I can't get my PC to load espn.com correctly. Did they spin it as a defensive battle between two great teams??
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 10, 2012 10:42am
Yup, and pretty much the headline articles all emphatically lead off that there is no doubt that Bama is the best team.se-alum;1046805 wrote:I can't get my PC to load espn.com correctly. Did they spin it as a defensive battle between two great teams??
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 10, 2012 10:44am
That game was garbage last night, would have much rather have watched Ok St in the title game. Need a playoff to end this BS. I'm a fan of defense and all, but that was lack off offense and bone heads plays more than Alabama def IMO.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2012 10:57am
LSU and 'Bama both prospered from the strength of the SEC in years past. The SEC wasn't good this year outside of LSU, 'Bama, and maybe Arkansas.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 10, 2012 11:03am
Mike & Mike this morning wouldn't shut up about how great the SEC is. I would be more in agreement had they beaten one of the other conference champs.se-alum;1046805 wrote:I can't get my PC to load espn.com correctly. Did they spin it as a defensive battle between two great teams??
LSU might not have played a good game last night, but they definitely earned there way into the title game. They beat Oregon, West Virginia at West Virginia and Alabama at Alabama.se-alum;1046842 wrote:LSU and 'Bama both prospered from the strength of the SEC in years past. The SEC wasn't good this year outside of LSU, 'Bama, and maybe Arkansas.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 10, 2012 11:14am
Confirmed
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.html
Lowest rated BCS NCG
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.html
Lowest rated BCS NCG
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gyea36
Posts: 165
Jan 10, 2012 11:31am
have there been any other articles like wetzel's on yahoo that didn't put espn's biased spin on the game?
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 10, 2012 11:37am
"[LEFT]Interestingly, the three lowest overnight ratings for the BCS Championship Game occurred in a year when there was some controversy over the participating teams. The previous low (14.3), in 2002, featured Nebraska, which didn't win its conference. LSU's win over Oklahoma in 2004 featured a Sooners team that didn't win its conference.LJ;1046864 wrote:Confirmed
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.html
Lowest rated BCS NCG
Last night, Alabama became the first school since Minnesota in 1936 to win a national title without winning its conference. Alabama fans are understandably rejoicing."
Wow... two very interesting statistics. Apparently a lot of people agree that if you don't win your conference you shouldn't have a shot at the national title at least when it comes to college football in the current set up.[/LEFT]
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2012 12:04pm
No doubt LSU earned their trip, but I don't think they were ever a great team. CFB was down as a whole this year. At the end of the year, I think there were several teams playing as well or better than LSU. Okie St., Oregon, and Stanford all could've given LSU big problems in the NCG.FatHobbit;1046847 wrote:Mike & Mike this morning wouldn't shut up about how great the SEC is. I would be more in agreement had they beaten one of the other conference champs.
LSU might not have played a good game last night, but they definitely earned there way into the title game. They beat Oregon, West Virginia at West Virginia and Alabama at Alabama.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 10, 2012 1:44pm
The problem is, the playoffs would have to be for conf winners only. So this year, the #2 ranked team would not play. Otherwise, Alabama would have still been able to win without winning their conference, and been 1-1 with LSU.Commander of Awesome;1046821 wrote:That game was garbage last night, would have much rather have watched Ok St in the title game. Need a playoff to end this BS. I'm a fan of defense and all, but that was lack off offense and bone heads plays more than Alabama def IMO.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 10, 2012 2:00pm
That system won't happen. And congrats to everyone who didn't watch, if these horrible ratings this season don't force change idk what will. Money will be lost folksWebFire;1047027 wrote:The problem is, the playoffs would have to be for conf winners only. So this year, the #2 ranked team would not play. Otherwise, Alabama would have still been able to win without winning their conference, and been 1-1 with LSU.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 10, 2012 2:05pm
Classyposter58;1047058 wrote:That system won't happen. And congrats to everyone who didn't watch, if these horrible ratings this season don't force change idk what will. Money will be lost folks
Money will be lost? Unless everyone that didn't watch because of the rematch cancelled their cable, ESPN got paid the same amount last night that they will tonight.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 10, 2012 2:30pm
If less people continue to not watch then ad prices sinkkaren lotz;1047064 wrote:Money will be lost? Unless everyone that didn't watch because of the rematch cancelled their cable, ESPN got paid the same amount last night that they will tonight.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 10, 2012 2:46pm
Classyposter58;1047085 wrote:If less people continue to not watch then ad prices sink
And ESPN still won't lose money.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 10, 2012 4:45pm
Which system? Conf winners only?Classyposter58;1047058 wrote:That system won't happen. And congrats to everyone who didn't watch, if these horrible ratings this season don't force change idk what will. Money will be lost folks
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 10, 2012 5:05pm
[h=2]Gundy: ‘We’d have thrown 50 times… I just think we could score’[/h]Posted by John Taylor on January 10, 2012, 11:52 AM EST
[RIGHT]Getty Images[/RIGHT]It was a performance for the ages, and LSU’s microscopic offensive numbers bore out Alabama’s defensive dominance in the BcS title game.
Zero points. A miserly 1.4 yards per carry, and just 3.1 yards per pass attempt. Converted just two first downs in 12 third-down attempts. Four plays ran in Alabama territory, none until the fourth quarter and all coming on one drive. Five first downs. 92 yards of total offense. In every fashion imaginable, it was the Tide sawing on a Stradivarius while the Tigers plucked aimlessly on a stringless banjo.
Those numbers weren’t enough, though, to dissuade one coach from playing the what-if game.
Speaking to USA Today shortly after the Tide’s 21-0 thumping of the Tigers, Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy lamented the fact that his Cowboys, which finished third in both the major polls, didn’t get the opportunity to do what LSU couldn’t — put some crooked numbers up on the scoreboard. And, according to Gundy, they would’ve done it by doing what they do best.
Fling footballs all over the field and see what sticks.
[INDENT]“We’d have thrown it 50 times,” he said. “You like to think Brandon Weeden and Justin Blackmon could have put together some touchdowns. Get the ball thrown down the field and open some things up. Try to make it exciting, and see what happens.”
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“You sure would like to have had a shot at it,” Gundy said.
“It kind of hurts to watch it. I just think we could score. We’d use all 52 yards across (the width of) the field. Get people on the edges. Use the vertical game.”
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“For the most part in the last couple of years, we’ve been able to move the ball and score points against about anybody we played. … It’s been talked about all year from coast to coast: Big 12 offenses, SEC defenses, how do we really know if anybody’s really any good? That (a showdown in the BCS title game) would have been the best way to find out.”
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“I will say this,” Mike Gundy said as Alabama closed in on Monday night’s 21-0 win against LSU. “I bet you there’ll be a lot of people wish they’d given us a shot to see a different kind of game.”
[/INDENT]
[RIGHT]Getty Images[/RIGHT]It was a performance for the ages, and LSU’s microscopic offensive numbers bore out Alabama’s defensive dominance in the BcS title game.Zero points. A miserly 1.4 yards per carry, and just 3.1 yards per pass attempt. Converted just two first downs in 12 third-down attempts. Four plays ran in Alabama territory, none until the fourth quarter and all coming on one drive. Five first downs. 92 yards of total offense. In every fashion imaginable, it was the Tide sawing on a Stradivarius while the Tigers plucked aimlessly on a stringless banjo.
Those numbers weren’t enough, though, to dissuade one coach from playing the what-if game.
Speaking to USA Today shortly after the Tide’s 21-0 thumping of the Tigers, Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy lamented the fact that his Cowboys, which finished third in both the major polls, didn’t get the opportunity to do what LSU couldn’t — put some crooked numbers up on the scoreboard. And, according to Gundy, they would’ve done it by doing what they do best.
Fling footballs all over the field and see what sticks.
[INDENT]“We’d have thrown it 50 times,” he said. “You like to think Brandon Weeden and Justin Blackmon could have put together some touchdowns. Get the ball thrown down the field and open some things up. Try to make it exciting, and see what happens.”
…
“You sure would like to have had a shot at it,” Gundy said.
“It kind of hurts to watch it. I just think we could score. We’d use all 52 yards across (the width of) the field. Get people on the edges. Use the vertical game.”
…
“For the most part in the last couple of years, we’ve been able to move the ball and score points against about anybody we played. … It’s been talked about all year from coast to coast: Big 12 offenses, SEC defenses, how do we really know if anybody’s really any good? That (a showdown in the BCS title game) would have been the best way to find out.”
…
“I will say this,” Mike Gundy said as Alabama closed in on Monday night’s 21-0 win against LSU. “I bet you there’ll be a lot of people wish they’d given us a shot to see a different kind of game.”
[/INDENT]
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 10, 2012 5:23pm
@Matt_HayesSN: Mike Gundy tells USAT "we'd have thrown it 50 times." You threw it 58 times against 7-loss Iowa State. And lost.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 10, 2012 5:49pm
Alabama was 2-6 in FG tries and lost a game in which the other team scored 9 pts and it took OT to get that many, yet were given another chance.
I don't care who it was against 2-6 in FG's is ridiculous.
I don't care who it was against 2-6 in FG's is ridiculous.
C
centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 10, 2012 6:40pm
Who cares.karen lotz;1047222 wrote:@Matt_HayesSN: Mike Gundy tells USAT "we'd have thrown it 50 times." You threw it 58 times against 7-loss Iowa State. And lost.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 10, 2012 6:41pm
Obviously the voters did, for one.centralbucksfan;1047262 wrote:Who cares.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Jan 10, 2012 6:43pm
A lot people are dumb. If the two top teams in the nation are from the same conference, of course the second best should be in the title game.Fly4Fun;1046885 wrote:"[LEFT] Apparently a lot of people agree that if you don't win your conference you shouldn't have a shot at the national title at least when it comes to college football in the current set up.
[/LEFT]
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 10, 2012 6:51pm
centralbucksfan;1047262 wrote:Who cares.
who cares that he would have thrown the ball 50 times? Throwing the ball 50 times doesn't mean you should be playing for a national championship.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jan 10, 2012 7:01pm
It shows you are at least trying when it is obvious that running sweeps and off-tackle isn't working. LSU's coaching was absolutely shameful, were they even trying to win the game?karen lotz;1047278 wrote:who cares that he would have thrown the ball 50 times? Throwing the ball 50 times doesn't mean you should be playing for a national championship.