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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 12, 2012 1:24pm
I may be dumb, but I sure ain't stoopid--of course I didn't think you were serious...did you think I was serious???justincredible;1049556 wrote:You thought I was serious? I kinda want to ban you but I won't because you didn't break a rule and I am a fair and just administrator.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2012 1:24pm
Why move it? It's purpose is to archive problematic threads without shutting down the conversation or deleting them.ernest_t_bass;1049481 wrote:Justin, are you going to move the basement, so it is easier to see in the forums?
Forums work surprisingly similar to real life. Do you go to another place to have a pissing match? No, you don't. No one is going to be like "Wow, I really am pissed at ETB, I'm going to go in the basement and start ranting about how lame ETB is because I'm allowed to do that there and nowhere else".
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 12, 2012 1:25pm
You want to ban me now, don't you?vball10set;1049566 wrote:I may be dumb, but I sure ain't stoopid--of course I didn't think you were serious...did you think I was serious???
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 12, 2012 1:26pm
nah, just neg rep ya'justincredible;1049569 wrote:You want to ban me now, don't you?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 12, 2012 1:28pm
I don't see why they wouldn't, if there were strict rules mandating it. Someone rags on sleeper in a forum other than the basement, then they get an infraction point. If I call you stupid in one post, that's one thing. But if I continue to call you stupid, in every single post you post, then that's another.sleeper;1049568 wrote:Why move it? It's purpose is to archive problematic threads without shutting down the conversation or deleting them.
Forums work surprisingly similar to real life. Do you go to another place to have a pissing match? No, you don't. No one is going to be like "Wow, I really am pissed at ETB, I'm going to go in the basement and start ranting about how lame ETB is because I'm allowed to do that there and nowhere else".
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 1:39pm
Every forum I'm on that has a basement/kitchen whatever, everyone uses it for call outs and shit like that.ernest_t_bass;1049579 wrote:I don't see why they wouldn't, if there were strict rules mandating it. Someone rags on sleeper in a forum other than the basement, then they get an infraction point. If I call you stupid in one post, that's one thing. But if I continue to call you stupid, in every single post you post, then that's another.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 12, 2012 1:40pm
Are you agreeing with me?LJ;1049593 wrote:Every forum I'm on that has a basement/kitchen whatever, everyone uses it for call outs and shit like that.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 1:44pm
um......ernest_t_bass;1049596 wrote:Are you agreeing with me?
obviously.......
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 12, 2012 1:47pm
sleeper thought you were serious and now you just devastated him.justincredible;1049556 wrote:You thought I was serious? I kinda want to ban you but I won't because you didn't break a rule and I am a fair and just administrator.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 12, 2012 1:49pm
There is something to the old adage keep your friends close and your enemies closer but seems to me that experiment was tried before somewhere and failed pretty miserably.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 12, 2012 1:49pm
Hey! Ernest isn't used to being agreed with, so he's in uncharted territory now! Be gentle with him.LJ;1049606 wrote:um......
obviously.......
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2012 2:19pm
I don't know if I can fix the issues at hand, but I do know how to moderate. Despite not modding for a while, I've learned plenty about how to do it properly and I probably have more experience than any moderator on here. The problem would arise is that backlash from bringing on an alleged troll as a moderator.Skyhook79;1049610 wrote:sleeper thought you were serious and now you just devastated him.
What I do know is that the current moderator staff isn't doing a good enough job, and the rules environment is lacking at best. I've offered solutions, hopefully they are implemented.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 2:25pm
I actually have a good amount of experience moderating forums. To tell you the truth, the politics forum on this website is cake compared to what I dealt with on a local car forum. Imagine, a forum where everyone is within 25 miles of each other. Shit could get out of hand REALLY fast if the forum was not HEAVILY moderated. The perceived "problems" here are nothing more than just trying to stay on topic in topics and not having it turn into a yelling match. Imagine having to monitor every tiny thing said in every single thread, because of proximity, there is a chance of people taking things physical IRL,sleeper;1049659 wrote:I don't know if I can fix the issues at hand, but I do know how to moderate. Despite not modding for a while, I've learned plenty about how to do it properly and I probably have more experience than any moderator on here. The problem would arise is that backlash from bringing on an alleged troll as a moderator.
What I do know is that the current moderator staff isn't doing a good enough job, and the rules environment is lacking at best. I've offered solutions, hopefully they are implemented.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 12, 2012 2:28pm
So, you moderated a car forum that conisted of all your friends. Essentially you moderated a car forum with 3 members, including yourself.LJ;1049674 wrote:I actually have a good amount of experience moderating forums. To tell you the truth, the politics forum on this website is cake compared to what I dealt with on a local car forum. Imagine, a forum where everyone is within 25 miles of each other. Shit could get out of hand REALLY fast if the forum was not HEAVILY moderated. The perceived "problems" here are nothing more than just trying to stay on topic in topics and not having it turn into a yelling match. Imagine having to monitor every tiny thing said in every single thread, because of proximity, there is a chance of people taking things physical IRL,
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 2:29pm
like_that;1049679 wrote:So, you moderated a car forum that conisted of all your friends. Essentially you moderated a car forum with 3 members, including yourself.
3,000 members, 1,200 active in the last month.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2012 2:31pm
Agreed. The politics forum stays on topic and keeps a majority of the personal attacks to a minimum. The pre-thread approval needs to be stopped. If a thread is posted that's terrible, it can be dealt with later. Having a pre-approval process robs time sensitive topics from being discussed.LJ;1049674 wrote:I actually have a good amount of experience moderating forums. To tell you the truth, the politics forum on this website is cake compared to what I dealt with on a local car forum. Imagine, a forum where everyone is within 25 miles of each other. **** could get out of hand REALLY fast if the forum was not HEAVILY moderated. The perceived "problems" here are nothing more than just trying to stay on topic in topics and not having it turn into a yelling match. Imagine having to monitor every tiny thing said in every single thread, because of proximity, there is a chance of people taking things physical IRL,
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 12, 2012 2:41pm
lol, what do people fight about when it comes to discussing cars?LJ;1049683 wrote:3,000 members, 1,200 active in the last month.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 2:43pm
Same shit that people fight about on here, basically nothing. It's also a site where a lot of races, track and street, used to be set up.like_that;1049704 wrote:lol, what do people fight about when it comes to discussing cars?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 12, 2012 2:56pm
Um.......LJ;1049606 wrote:um......
obviously.......
You know who you're talking to?/?/?????
SnotBubbles
Posts: 4,492
Jan 12, 2012 4:02pm
Do these other forums you "moderate" allow you to single out certain members, argue/insult them and break the rules that you enforce like you do on here? I'm just curious. Some days you absolutely suck as a moderator...the worst of the worst. Other days you're alright.LJ;1049674 wrote:I actually have a good amount of experience moderating forums.
Honestly, the only person I've seen reasonable moderation from on this forum is Fly4Fun. I don't remember what I posted, but I received an infraction for it and an explanation...and it was reasonable. I honestly think Fly4Fun (as much of a dicktard as he is sometimes) is the only moderator who has shown he is capable of moderating justly on this site.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2012 4:06pm
He does a good job of moderating, but he's largely inconsistent and doesn't apply his reasoning to all members of the forum. He even admitted that he's biased on purpose so that he can't be called out for being biased towards Ohio State.SnotBubbles;1049813 wrote:Honestly, the only person I've seen reasonable moderation from on this forum is Fly4Fun. I don't remember what I posted, but I received an infraction for it and an explanation...and it was reasonable. I honestly think Fly4Fun (as much of a ****tard as he is sometimes) is the only moderator who has shown he is capable of moderating justly on this site.
Being inconsistent is a huge flaw, almost as bad as not moderating at all.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 4:09pm
You realize I only moderate the Politics forum, correct? I'm not sure you ever even post in there....therefore not even knowing how I am as a moderator.SnotBubbles;1049813 wrote:Do these other forums you "moderate" allow you to single out certain members, argue/insult them and break the rules that you enforce like you do on here? I'm just curious. Some days you absolutely suck as a moderator...the worst of the worst. Other days you're alright.
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Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jan 12, 2012 4:12pm
ernest_t_bass;1049232 wrote:Link did not work.
link worked for me.justincredible;1049237 wrote:Quite.
I win.
SnotBubbles
Posts: 4,492
Jan 12, 2012 4:21pm
Your name is purple. That's how I knowzit. So if you're not posting in the forum you moderate in, anything goes, you don't have to be respectful and just of your duties? You can start neggering people for no reason, other than you don't like them? I guess that makes you even more sucking of the sucks on most days.LJ;1049827 wrote:You realize I only moderate the Politics forum, correct? I'm not sure you ever even post in there....therefore not even knowing how I am as a moderator.
In retrospect, I didn't know you only moderated the politics forum. I thought you were over here as a moderator, being a dick sometimes. If you're appointed a moderator on this site, you should be (as sleeper has said) consistent, not only in your handling of infractions, but also in regards to the content of which you post.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 12, 2012 4:22pm
Are you really crying about getting negged?SnotBubbles;1049844 wrote:Your name is purple. That's how I knowzit. So if you're not posting in the forum you moderate in, anything goes, you don't have to be respectful and just of your duties? You can start neggering people for no reason, other than you don't like them? I guess that makes you even more sucking of the sucks on most days.
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