sleeper;1049297 wrote:Respectful is a matter of perception....

sleeper;1049227 wrote:giveupalready.com

Admittedly, this site is basically dead now, but I moderated it about 8-9 years ago at the height of its popularity. I went by the user name "clone".

Con_Alma;1049305 wrote:Agreed. It's subjective and the authority to make the determination with regards to what is and what is not respectful has been granted to those who moderate. Some will agree and some will not. That's the nature of subjectivity.

justincredible;1049310 wrote:It's been around for how long and it only has 200k more posts than the OC. A quick look shows posts from as far back as 2004.

Con_Alma;1049316 wrote:Moderators knowing what they are doing might just exist right now. It's possible it's the exact type ofmoderationactivity that Justin wants. You might not.

ytownfootball;1049327 wrote:I guess I don't really care about "trolling", who is or who isn't as basically there isn't anything in the forum rules that preclude it. But I do have to side with sleeper in regards to moderation of such, there certainly isn't anything that allows anyone insight as to how "trolls" are moderated, or anything for that matter. Other than increasing the likelyhood of posters breaking rules with their responses and requiring increased moderation, he's not breaking any rules.

justincredible;1049334 wrote:Error on my part for never officially adding it to the site rules even though there was a thread detailing it and a forum created for it.

ytownfootball;1049327 wrote:.... Other than increasing the likelyhood of posters breaking rules with their responses and requiring increased moderation, he's not breaking any rules.

Con_Alma;1049339 wrote:Maybe not but how this place is moderated isn't necessarily based on what posters want. The site owner decides how he wants it to be moderated and how he wants rules to be enforced. The posters decide if they want to participate or not.

justincredible;1049334 wrote:Error on my part for never officially adding it to the site rules even though there was a thread detailing it and a forum created for it.

justincredible;1049334 wrote:Error on my part for never officially adding it to the site rules even though there was a thread detailing it and a forum created for it.

ytownfootball;1049342 wrote:Well yeah I mean those of us who have been around realize this.

THE4RINGZ;1049341 wrote:That's crazy talk, right there.

ytownfootball;1049327 wrote:I guess I don't really care about "trolling", who is or who isn't as basically there isn't anything in the forum rules that preclude it. But I do have to side with sleeper in regards to moderation of such, there certainly isn't anything that allows anyone insight as to how "trolls" are moderated, or anything for that matter. Other than increasing the likelyhood of posters breaking rules with their responses and requiring increased moderation, he's not breaking any rules.

ytownfootball;1049403 wrote:Yes, however as justin stated we do all know that the basement was created specifically for that purpose. It's only a point of parliamentary procedure and he's only a script line or two from being fully compliant

sleeper;1049406 wrote:The basement solves nothing. It's flawed logic if Justin thinks that creating a forum where everyone can get into pissing matches will solve any of the problems mentioned in this thread.

Having a clear mandate of what is acceptable and applying that mandate to ALL USERS is the only way to fix the issues at hand. Also, finding moderators that can do this consistently will go a long way in increasing the quality of this forum and attracting new blood.

justincredible;1049423 wrote:Will you be a moderator?

ytownfootball;1049273 wrote:I don't disagree with that, but I think it's more difficult to gain those types of posters by recruitment/advertising then it is say through high school forums and accepting the overflow into the other forums. Seems like trying to put a roof on a house when you haven't built the basement.

ytownfootball;1049403 wrote:Yes, however as justin stated we do all know that the basement was created specifically for that purpose.

justincredible;1049423 wrote:Will you be a moderator?

sleeper;1049437 wrote:Yes.

vball10set;1049552 wrote:...and this shall end my time on the OC-- thank you.