Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 16, 2012 6:48pm
The browns playcalling is predictable. Today it was throw on first, run on second. If we can figure it out, d coordinators can!
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 17, 2012 8:23am
he had like 2 carries in the 2nd half. And when you have no threat at QB, defenses can key on the run. Also, fuck Pat Shurmur.Mulva;1344742 wrote:Today was the 7th time this season that Richardson has averaged under 3 yards per carry.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 17, 2012 9:40am
Can we get some damn roll outs?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 17, 2012 10:03am
[h=3]Potential changes in Cleveland[/h]7:57AM ET
[h=5]Cleveland Browns[/h]
There have been rumors regarding the possible firing of Cleveland Browns GM Tom Heckert and HC Pat Shurmur since before Jimmy Haslam bought the club; the thinking was that Haslam was going to bring in a whole new group, a process that started with the ouster of team president Mike Holmgren, who was replaced by Joe Banner. As the season has gone along, there's been much speculation regarding Heckert and Shurmur, and that has ramped up significantly as the end of the season fast approaches.
Sunday's lopsided loss -- to a team with a backup QB -- may have been the final tipping point.
Todd Jones of the Columbus Dispatch writes that Sunday's game was a microcosm of the Browns' 2012 campaign -- despite some encouraging moments, the tail end resembled the darkening skies that beset the stadium. With the loss on Sunday, the Browns clinched finishing with a losing record for the fifth consecutive season.
As for who comes on next, a very intriguing scenario was presented last week: the Browns would bring in NFL Network analyst Michael Lombardi as GM, with University of Alabama HC Nick Saban returning to Cleveland as the replacement for Shurmur. Both men worked for Cleveland during the previous iteration of the team (Lombardi from 1987 to 1996, Saban from 1991 to 1994).
[h=5]Cleveland Browns[/h]
There have been rumors regarding the possible firing of Cleveland Browns GM Tom Heckert and HC Pat Shurmur since before Jimmy Haslam bought the club; the thinking was that Haslam was going to bring in a whole new group, a process that started with the ouster of team president Mike Holmgren, who was replaced by Joe Banner. As the season has gone along, there's been much speculation regarding Heckert and Shurmur, and that has ramped up significantly as the end of the season fast approaches.
Sunday's lopsided loss -- to a team with a backup QB -- may have been the final tipping point.
Todd Jones of the Columbus Dispatch writes that Sunday's game was a microcosm of the Browns' 2012 campaign -- despite some encouraging moments, the tail end resembled the darkening skies that beset the stadium. With the loss on Sunday, the Browns clinched finishing with a losing record for the fifth consecutive season.
As for who comes on next, a very intriguing scenario was presented last week: the Browns would bring in NFL Network analyst Michael Lombardi as GM, with University of Alabama HC Nick Saban returning to Cleveland as the replacement for Shurmur. Both men worked for Cleveland during the previous iteration of the team (Lombardi from 1987 to 1996, Saban from 1991 to 1994).
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 17, 2012 10:40am
Watching that 49er's and Patriots game last night just shows how far away we are offensively.
In a driving rain storm those teams are still throwing vertically down the field, while on a nearly 60 degree day in Cleveland we are content under Shurmur to have the equivalent of a horizontal passing game where the ball never goes more than a yard or 2 upfield at a time before guys are expected to shed 10 tackles and create yards for themselves.
I just wonder sometimes how our coaching staff can watch other teams play and not begin to wonder why they aren't trying to do the same things.
On the OBR someone has been talking about Shurmur actually being a Heckert idea as much or more than a Holmgren idea given their time together in Philly. This needs to be looked into by Joe Banner as if true that is a firable offense for Heckert as it shows just terribly poor judgment.
Hiring Shurmur set the franchise back years and cost alot of people their jobs. Whoever was responsible for it needs to be held to account if they haven't already been.
In a driving rain storm those teams are still throwing vertically down the field, while on a nearly 60 degree day in Cleveland we are content under Shurmur to have the equivalent of a horizontal passing game where the ball never goes more than a yard or 2 upfield at a time before guys are expected to shed 10 tackles and create yards for themselves.
I just wonder sometimes how our coaching staff can watch other teams play and not begin to wonder why they aren't trying to do the same things.
On the OBR someone has been talking about Shurmur actually being a Heckert idea as much or more than a Holmgren idea given their time together in Philly. This needs to be looked into by Joe Banner as if true that is a firable offense for Heckert as it shows just terribly poor judgment.
Hiring Shurmur set the franchise back years and cost alot of people their jobs. Whoever was responsible for it needs to be held to account if they haven't already been.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 17, 2012 11:12am
I cringe every time I hear Lombardi's name associated with the Browns.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 11:15am
Same, I just don't get it.wes_mantooth;1345434 wrote:I cringe every time I hear Lombardi's name associated with the Browns.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 17, 2012 11:27am
That has gone over like a led balloon to most everyone in the city so far.wes_mantooth;1345434 wrote:I cringe every time I hear Lombardi's name associated with the Browns.
If Banner does it anyway it does not portend well of things to come in the Haslam/Banner regime because it has that same tone deaf quality about it we have dealt with so much during the Holmgren regime.
You don't let fans/media necessarily dictate what you do, but bringing in a guy like Lombardi that effectively is a wet blanket that no one wants around is an adversarial decision that just doesn't need to be made.
There are enough people to hire that won't be met with scorn like Lombardi would that Joe Banner can go hire.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 17, 2012 12:21pm
I have no problem in exhuming Vince and hiring him.wes_mantooth;1345434 wrote:I cringe every time I hear Lombardi's name associated with the Browns.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 17, 2012 12:35pm
I don't give a shit what the Cleveland media makes the fans want. Haslam has shown so far he cares about football, winning, and doing it now. Lets sit back and let him put his pieces in place. If I just spent a billion dollars on something, I'm not giving two shits about a city responsible for putting Barack Obama in the White House.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 12:39pm
What the hell are you even even talking about bases_loaded?
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 17, 2012 1:39pm
I think he's pointing to the black community as being responsible for Obama winning the election. What that has to do with the price of rice in China? I have no idea....Commander of Awesome;1345540 wrote:What the hell are you even even talking about bases_loaded?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 1:40pm
Good to know that b_l is a racist dumbass. I'll be sure to skip his posts going forward.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 1:41pm
I've read his post several times now and it makes sense than a belly/isadore post.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 17, 2012 1:43pm
This is true
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 17, 2012 2:19pm
Cleveland fan on the radio = doesn't want Lombardi, so ownership shouldn't get Lombardi?
These are the same people that elected and re-elected Obama. He has carried Cuyahoga County by a larger margin than that of the state.
In other words, its obvious Cleveland is full of fucktards and their opinion shouldn't be leaned on by a guy who just spent a Billion dollars on the team.
These are the same people that elected and re-elected Obama. He has carried Cuyahoga County by a larger margin than that of the state.
In other words, its obvious Cleveland is full of fucktards and their opinion shouldn't be leaned on by a guy who just spent a Billion dollars on the team.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 17, 2012 3:13pm
If Obama loses Ohio he still wins the Presidency, but whatever you say bro.bases_loaded;1345629 wrote:Cleveland fan on the radio = doesn't want Lombardi, so ownership shouldn't get Lombardi?
These are the same people that elected and re-elected Obama. He has carried Cuyahoga County by a larger margin than that of the state.
In other words, its obvious Cleveland is full of fucktards and their opinion shouldn't be leaned on by a guy who just spent a Billion dollars on the team.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 17, 2012 3:23pm
Seriously? Election talk on the Browns thread?? 
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 17, 2012 3:26pm
GoChiefs;1345694 wrote:Seriously? Election talk on the Browns thread??
This thread has it all. Don't discriminate.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 17, 2012 5:19pm
royal_k;1345581 wrote:I think he's pointing to the black community as being responsible for Obama winning the election. What that has to do with the price of rice in China? I have no idea....
What does race have to do with anything I said? Kill yourself please
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 5:20pm
Nate Ulrich ‏@NateUlrichABJ #Browns waive CB Dimitri Patterson.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 17, 2012 5:27pm
Fake Pat Shurmur ‏@FakePatShurmur BREAKING: We just waived Dimitri Patterson. He was taking valuable playing time away from Buster Skrine
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 17, 2012 5:29pm
lol...how the fuck does Buster Skrine have a job though. Fucking idiots.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 17, 2012 5:31pm
My feelings are hurt.bases_loaded;1345777 wrote:What does race have to do with anything I said? Kill yourself please
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 17, 2012 5:32pm
I hear you royal, that was very mean.