2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Jan 10, 2012 10:52am
QB ratings from college.

Cousins 147(145 senior year)
Flynn 132(125 senior year)
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Jan 10, 2012 10:54am
Commander of Awesome;1046832 wrote:That's your opinion, I disagree.

Now that I've provided stats,it should say Cousins WAS not looked
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Jan 10, 2012 10:55am
bases_loaded;1046835 wrote:QB ratings from college.

Cousins 147(145 senior year)
Flynn 132(125 senior year)
Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.
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Jan 10, 2012 11:06am
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Jan 10, 2012 11:10am
Commander of Awesome;1046840 wrote:Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.

Because Michigan State runs the spread and plays in the WAC
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Jan 10, 2012 11:13am
Commander of Awesome;1046840 wrote:Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.

Kellen Moore graduates this year
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Jan 10, 2012 11:23am
bases_loaded;1046829 wrote:Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did.
I would agree with this. He's better than a lot of you think.
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Jan 10, 2012 11:27am
royal_k;1046870 wrote:I would agree with this. He's better than a lot of you think.

He's been starting QB for what, 3? 4? years?? In an NFL system
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Jan 10, 2012 11:50am
bases_loaded;1046878 wrote:He's been starting QB for what, 3? 4? years?? In an NFL system
I know, and has been terrible to borderline mediocre every single one of them. Not to mention a total choke artist. I haven't seen anyone throw more idiotic INTs since Derek Anderson.

He'll be lucky to be a back up in the NFL and doubt he'll ever be a good NFL starter.
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Jan 10, 2012 12:08pm
Eh I don't see him being available.
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Jan 10, 2012 12:33pm
Commander of Awesome;1046817 wrote:What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out?
Cuz they gettin paid

It aint rocket science.
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Jan 10, 2012 12:37pm
Commander of Awesome;1046895 wrote:I know, and has been terrible to borderline mediocre every single one of them. Not to mention a total choke artist. I haven't seen anyone throw more idiotic INTs since Derek Anderson.

He'll be lucky to be a back up in the NFL and doubt he'll ever be a good NFL starter.

Yes a career 147 QB rating means he's terrible.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:10pm
lol @ citing QB ratings let alone college QB ratings as your argument.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:11pm
Cousins was a better college passer than Flynn but that doesn't mean that Flynn's develop up to this point is less than what Cousins could develop into. It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.

Give me T-Rich at #4. He is going to be an elite running back.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:11pm
What does a QB rating do?
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Jan 10, 2012 1:14pm
lhslep134;1046988 wrote:It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.
I think its a crapshoot regardless of round.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:15pm
lhslep134;1046988 wrote:Cousins was a better college passer than Flynn but that doesn't mean that Flynn's develop up to this point is less than what Cousins could develop into. It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.

Give me T-Rich at #4. He is going to be an elite running back.
Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
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Jan 10, 2012 1:17pm
Commander of Awesome;1046990 wrote:I think its a crapshoot regardless of round.
That's true.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:19pm
If Blackmon is gone and you can't move down, you take Claiborne. CB is taken care of for next 6 years and so is the return game.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:22pm
like_that;1046991 wrote:Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:26pm
lhslep134;1046999 wrote:You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
And waht have the Vikings ever won with AP? RB's aren't pivotal to success, a QB and WR's are.

There's a reason Trent has dropped to the 21st pick in the latest mock draft.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:26pm
lhslep134;1046999 wrote:You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
I have provided my stance on RBs numerous times. They are dime a dozen. You don't need a first round RB in order to find an elite/successful RB. Hillis is a 7th rd pick, Arian Foster was undrafted, etc etc. The best RB in the game (AP), has gotten the Vikings what? 7 wins in the past 2 years?

I would not be happy with Richardson at 4, especially when we have much bigger needs, and RB is the easiest to figure out.
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Jan 10, 2012 1:29pm
like_that;1046991 wrote:Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
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Jan 10, 2012 1:30pm
SportsAndLady;1047002 wrote:And waht have the Vikings ever won with AP? RB's aren't pivotal to success, a QB and WR's are.

There's a reason Trent has dropped to the 21st pick in the latest mock draft.
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