IggyPride00;1345987 wrote:Someone made a good point. The Skins were playing press coverage on a guy running a 4.3 40 because the entire stadium knew another 5 yard pass was coming on 3rd down.

Mulva;1346018 wrote:Unless there's another 4.3 guy I'm not aware of, someone made a terrible point because the corner on Benjamin was 8-9 yards off of the line. That isn't press coverage at all.

IggyPride00;1346023 wrote:I honestly didn't even check for accuracy

SportsAndLady;1346035 wrote:If I told you there was bricks of gold underneath your feet, you'd probably start digging.

You're making yourself look pretty embarrassing by continuing to cover for Weeden...all you have to do is admit he probably isn't as good as you thought, and be unbiasedly want the franchise to go a different route at QB.

Sorry iggy, but Weeden is a bust.

SportsAndLady;1346035 wrote:If I told you there was bricks of gold underneath your feet, you'd probably start digging.

You're making yourself look pretty embarrassing by continuing to cover for Weeden...all you have to do is admit he probably isn't as good as you thought, and be unbiasedly want the franchise to go a different route at QB.

Sorry iggy, but Weeden is a bust.

The Lombardi Factor: Banner has diagramed an organization chart that calls for football operations to report to him. That means Heckert’s position will be replaced by a glorified player personnel director who will work closely with Banner. He may win some battles but ultimately he will have no real authority to establish a vision, pick players or make trades. Banner will set the agenda.
So who would accept these restrictions? Someone who has been out of the league for five years – Mike Lombardi.

IggyPride00;1346150 wrote:I want to see him with a competent head coach for a year before cutting bait.

Tony Grossi put up this chart about how with Pat Shurmur led offenses the names change, but the results never do.

Before I go out and waste another first round pick on a QB who isn't anywhere near the Luck/RGIII level, I want to see if the offense looks better without Shurmur. If Weeden looks like crap still, then he is a total bust and it is time to move on.

Richardson has looked like crap most of the season, should we get rid of him as well? By your logic it is embarrassing to think he would look better with a real offense as well.

I took the liberty of adding in the 2009 stats so it encompasses the 4 years of Shurmur led offenses. The similarities are frightening, and should be a caution to anyone who thinks the problem is all Weeden. The system is bad, and it is doing nothing to make anyone look better.

Too much consistency of the numbers no matter who is under center to not lead a rational person to wonder if maybe it isn't all the players fault.

Name Year Games Comp. Att. Pct. Yards Y/attempt TD INT Rating Total Offense Rank (out of 32)

Combine 2009 16 312 543 57.5 2,970 5.5 12 21 64.0 29

Bradford 2010 16 354 590 60.0 3,512 5.95 18 15 76.5 26

McCoy 2011 13 265 463 57.2 2,733 5.90 14 11 74.6 29

Weeden 2012 14 285 498 57.2 3,281 6.60 14 17 72.4 25

IggyPride00;1346166 wrote:I recommend everyone read Grossi's most recent column regarding the Browns future management.

He basically lays out that the way Banner has drawn up the new org charts that Lombardi is the only person that fits realistically, and it is almost as if it was done with him in mind. Having been out of the league for 5 years (and really wanting to get back in), he will be fine with carrying Banner's water.

Sounds like a hard push is going to be made for Josh McDaniels, as basically they are looking for a coach that will genuflect before Banner/Lombardi and not want any real power or say over personnel.

I don't know how Haslam got hooked up with Banner, but the more I hear and read it seems like he has a major Napolean complex and really wants to have a hand in football decisions in which he has no business. He is a numbers guy, but is looking to expand his portfolio.

I am concerned about this GM issue big time. Since Banner has emasculated it and turned it into a glorified player personnel job under his new org chart it will severely limit the field of good candidates that would come here. Every GM wants final say over personnel, but from what we keep seeing that won't happen under Banner. Thus we are left with lower level guys that would be looking at a job a rung below a GM, and that is tough to attract top talent too.

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=9761

SportsAndLady;1346228 wrote:Mike Greenberg on air just now "I wanted the Jets to lose to Arizona; I wanted the Jets to lose to Tennessee. This is what I wanted. I don't want this organization thinking they're 'close.'"

Please someone find the coward BR, so he can get his opinion on this. I said I want the Browns to lose (when I knew they wouldn't be better than 8-8, of course) so they can better themselves in the draft, and he called out my fanhood.

Hopefully he's just on vacation, and not just hiding his face on here because he knows how wrong he has been.

Mulva;1346255 wrote:Haha did anyone actually take a look at the grossi article? One source says they're prepared to offer saban a 10 year, 100 million contract.

Mulva;1346255 wrote:Haha did anyone actually take a look at the grossi article?

Speedofsand;1346367 wrote:The factory of sadness is closed for the season isn't it?

Speedofsand;1346367 wrote:The factory of sadness is closed for the season isn't it?

like_that;1346409 wrote:Were your parents by any chance a pile of ****? Because you sure do nothing but act like one.

Commander of Awesome;1346332 wrote:lol fuck no, I have better ways to waste time than read the sci fi that idiot produces. It'd be an interesting to see who spews more bullshit on their keyboard, Grossi or Trolldo.