2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Nov 16, 2012 7:54 AM
BR1986FB;1321313 wrote:Unless you really know what's going on, no need to comment. Shurmur was fucking with Weeden's head prior to this game and the kid was afraid to take shots down the field because Patty Boy had Ed Reed made out to be the "boogeyman" in Weeden's eyes before he took a snap.
Then Weeden is a pussy.
Nov 16, 2012 7:54am
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Nov 16, 2012 8:02 AM
Mulva;1321326 wrote:Then Weeden is a pussy.
Very possible. Seems like we have a recent history of pussy QB's.

If Weeden doesn't step it up over the 7 games I think they may move in another direction. Don't like it but I see this happening. Banner didn't give him a glowing recommendation, Shurmur has thrown him under the bus and now Childress is questioning him.
Nov 16, 2012 8:02am
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Nov 16, 2012 8:49 AM
BR1986FB;1321313 wrote:No "oh jesus" about it. He's publicly throwing his rookie QB, along with other players, under the bus. Even Colt McCoy didn't have to deal with that shit from Shurmur. The faster Shurmur is gone, the better.

Unless you really know what's going on, no need to comment. Shurmur was fucking with Weeden's head prior to this game and the kid was afraid to take shots down the field because Patty Boy had Ed Reed made out to be the "boogeyman" in Weeden's eyes before he took a snap.
I'm done going over this every week, but come on BR..stop making excuses for Weeden. That's all I ask. You can continue to believe he'll be our franchise QB. That's fine. I disagree, but it's fine. But there's nothing worse than when you and iggy make every excuse imaginable for "the kid" (he's 29 BR, that aint a kid).

Shurmur is a terrible, awful, retarded coach. It doesn't help Weeden. I get it. But Weeden has not looked like our franchise QB outside of a couple games. And WEEDEN is to blame, not Shurmur, not Holmgren, not his WRs, not the defense, not the dawg pound, and most certainly not the boogey man.
Nov 16, 2012 8:49am
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Nov 16, 2012 8:49 AM
Go4alOngbOmB;1321307 wrote:I'm on the the sooner rather than later train when it comes to Patty Boy. I am honestly surprised that it didn't come down during the bye week. The words that come out of his moth during press conferences literally make me gag in my own throat. He sounds like a division 3 coach talking to the media about his 1st round playoff loss. Or miracle win and what he is going to do against Stubenville or Dover the next week. It boggles my mind why we hired this arrogant SOB in the 1st place, and how the HELL management keeps him around right now. Apparently the guy gives a GREAT "Old Fashioned" , no wonder Holmgrams mustache was always curled up.....
Nobody disagrees. Shurmur is horrible. The point I was trying to make had nothing to do with Shurmur.
Nov 16, 2012 8:49am
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Nov 16, 2012 12:23 PM
Here's the video of Gordon's hit on Reed. IMO he even positioned himself to make sure it wasn't it the back...another terrible call in the game by the reffs.

[video=youtube;eqMNjgjs15Q][/video]
Nov 16, 2012 12:23pm
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Nov 16, 2012 1:33 PM
So the latest rumor is Haslam offering Holmgren the head coaching gig?
Nov 16, 2012 1:33pm
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Nov 16, 2012 1:51 PM
BR1986FB;1321581 wrote:So the latest rumor is Haslam offering Holmgren the head coaching gig?
Where did you hear that from?
Nov 16, 2012 1:51pm
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Nov 16, 2012 2:31 PM
BR1986FB;1321581 wrote:So the latest rumor is Haslam offering Holmgren the head coaching gig?
That would be a home run. He is a shitty executive, but he is a good football coach, and likely better than anyone we could get on the open market.

Whether all the political stuff could be worked out to make it function well I am not sure, but the idea isn't crazy.

The team with another good draft can be very competitive next year, so for someone like Holmgren who is not looking for a massive rebuild that could be appealing.

The only reason I could even see him considering coaching the team is that the Cleveland tenure has been a stain on his resume, and part of me thinks he doesn't want that to be how he is last remembered.

He knows our personnel, there is no learning curve or teaching a new system, so theoretically the Cleveland coaching job compared to stepping into a new place and having to overhaul everything looks more attractive.

I doubt it will happen, but if Holmgren wants to coach (a big if I still think) and Haslam and all them could make it all work then I say go for it.
Nov 16, 2012 2:31pm
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Nov 16, 2012 6:47 PM
just think pat shurmur could be the OC. hell yes. championship.
Nov 16, 2012 6:47pm
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Nov 16, 2012 7:11 PM
shook_17;1321809 wrote:just think pat shurmur could be the OC. hell yes. championship.
Guaranteed. I've already booked my tickets for East Rutherford.
Nov 16, 2012 7:11pm
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Nov 16, 2012 11:01 PM
zach24oz;1321510 wrote:Here's the video of Gordon's hit on Reed. IMO he even positioned himself to make sure it wasn't it the back...another terrible call in the game by the reffs.

[video=youtube;eqMNjgjs15Q][/video]
The officials on the field called it a block in the back?
Nov 16, 2012 11:01pm
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Nov 16, 2012 11:04 PM
Sonofanump;1321953 wrote:The officials on the field called it a block in the back?

Called it a personal foul
Nov 16, 2012 11:04pm
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Nov 16, 2012 11:19 PM
Sonofanump;1321953 wrote:The officials on the field called it a block in the back?
Reed was a defenseless player in the situation and Gordon was called for hitting him above the shoulders.
Nov 16, 2012 11:19pm
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Nov 17, 2012 12:44 PM
fucking pussy ass league.
Nov 17, 2012 12:44pm
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Nov 17, 2012 12:58 PM
shook_17;1322152 wrote:fucking pussy ass league.
+1
Nov 17, 2012 12:58pm
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Nov 17, 2012 5:05 PM
The funny thing about that is Ed Reed has done that his whole career...but it's whatever. The NFL is basically a flag football league now. And I guess the move to switch Shurmur with Holmgreen wouldnt be bad, he's a west coast guy, has 'HIS' QB and thinks he has the team going in the right direction...get a couple key defensive guys in the draft and a OL or 2 and they could possibly make a little noise next year? Then again, this could be highly unlikely at the same time so who knows who's gonna be the HC next season.
Nov 17, 2012 5:05pm
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Nov 17, 2012 5:19 PM
Simon playing a great game
Nov 17, 2012 5:19pm
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Nov 17, 2012 5:19 PM
Midstate01;1322445 wrote:Simon playing a great game

Oops wrong thread lol
Nov 17, 2012 5:19pm
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Nov 17, 2012 5:28 PM
Midstate01;1322450 wrote:Oops wrong thread lol

Yeah, we don't have players that play great games!
Nov 17, 2012 5:28pm
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Nov 17, 2012 5:33 PM
Lol
Nov 17, 2012 5:33pm
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Nov 17, 2012 9:38 PM
Johnny Manziel from Texas A & M is legit. Only a red shirt freshman, id keep an eye on him in the up coming years. He could be the real deal.
Nov 17, 2012 9:38pm
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Nov 17, 2012 9:54 PM
shook_17;1322899 wrote:Johnny Manziel from Texas A & M is legit. Only a red shirt freshman, id keep an eye on him in the up coming years. He could be the real deal.
already giving up on Weeden huh?
Nov 17, 2012 9:54pm
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Nov 17, 2012 9:58 PM
shook_17;1322899 wrote:Johnny Manziel from Texas A & M is legit. Only a red shirt freshman, id keep an eye on him in the up coming years. He could be the real deal.
I'll say it right now... No.
Nov 17, 2012 9:58pm
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Nov 17, 2012 11:14 PM
Pick6;1322910 wrote:already giving up on Weeden huh?
Hmm. Weird when did I say that in my statement? Pulling shit out of your ass. But I guess that's what you do every day.

I still think weeden can be the guy. He is better than any qb coming out in this draft
Nov 17, 2012 11:14pm
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Nov 18, 2012 11:02 AM
shook_17;1323001 wrote:Hmm. Weird when did I say that in my statement? Pulling shit out of your ass. But I guess that's what you do every day.

I still think weeden can be the guy. He is better than any qb coming out in this draft
I guess I dont understand why you would want to look at Manziel in two years if you plan on Weeden proving his worth.
Nov 18, 2012 11:02am