2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Jan 15, 2012 2:43 PM
BR1986FB;1053248 wrote:I have a radio alarm clock that goes off at 4:15am that plays a song entitled "Fuck with Dynasty". ;)

I also realize this isn't the real Dynasty so he's (the real one) taking more shit than he deserves because of this imposter.
When did you change it from "with Shellbucks"?
Jan 15, 2012 2:43pm
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Jan 15, 2012 2:58 PM
Watching the Houston Baltimore game and it sucks how bad I wanted Jj watt in last years draft
Jan 15, 2012 2:58pm
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Jan 15, 2012 2:58 PM
I hope losing the DB coach to Dallas doesn't set the development of our DB's back.....the last 3 years I always thought that the defensive backfield would be a weakness and they always turned out doing pretty good IMO ....of course someone new might do even better......any thoughts ?
Jan 15, 2012 2:58pm
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Jan 15, 2012 3:01 PM
Crimson streak;1053466 wrote:Watching the Houston Baltimore game and it sucks how bad I wanted Jj watt in last years draft
our pass rush would be ferocious with him and sheard...although it looks like watt is excelling at sheard's position, the lde
Jan 15, 2012 3:01pm
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Jan 15, 2012 3:01 PM
Mr Miyagi;1053467 wrote:I hope losing the DB coach to Dallas doesn't set the development of our DB's back.....the last 3 years I always thought that the defensive backfield would be a weakness and they always turned out doing pretty good IMO ....of course someone new might do even better......any thoughts ?
I agree with ya..It's a big loss becuase that's all haden has known for his DB coach in his entire career in the NFL.
Jan 15, 2012 3:01pm
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Jan 15, 2012 3:07 PM
DeyDurkie5;1053469 wrote:I agree with ya..It's a big loss becuase that's all haden has known for his DB coach in his entire career in the NFL.
Of course the Browns will probably get a hold of sports agent Lamonte and see if he has any clients who want to be a DB coach;)
Jan 15, 2012 3:07pm
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Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM
Mr Miyagi;1053467 wrote:I hope losing the DB coach to Dallas doesn't set the development of our DB's back.....the last 3 years I always thought that the defensive backfield would be a weakness and they always turned out doing pretty good IMO ....of course someone new might do even better......any thoughts ?
Would rather have the special teams coach back...smh
Jan 15, 2012 3:33pm
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Jan 15, 2012 7:29 PM
Mr Miyagi;1053467 wrote:I hope losing the DB coach to Dallas doesn't set the development of our DB's back.....the last 3 years I always thought that the defensive backfield would be a weakness and they always turned out doing pretty good IMO ....of course someone new might do even better......any thoughts ?
Yeah maybe we get some interceptions next year. That'd be nice for a change.
Jan 15, 2012 7:29pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM
I'd rather take a WR like Wright at #4 than Blackmon TBH. I know that isn't the popular perception, but give me the guy who's ceiling is Carolina Steve Smith vs Anquan Boldin.
Jan 15, 2012 8:14pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:16 PM
Commander of Awesome;1053946 wrote:I'd rather take a WR like Wright at #4 than Blackmon TBH. I know that isn't the popular perception, but give me the guy who's ceiling is Carolina Steve Smith vs Anquan Boldin.

I would take a guy whose ceiling is Darius Hayward bey at this point...lol
Jan 15, 2012 8:16pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:24 PM
Commander of Awesome;1053946 wrote:I'd rather take a WR like Wright at #4 than Blackmon TBH. I know that isn't the popular perception, but give me the guy who's ceiling is Carolina Steve Smith vs Anquan Boldin.
I wouldn't take Wright at 4 but I get your point. I think Wright has a higher ceiling than Blackmon and am not nearly as high on him as many others. If they have the QB in place prior to the draft it will be interesting to see what they do. Wouldn't be adverse to Blackmon in that case but he wouldn't be my top choice.
Jan 15, 2012 8:24pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:28 PM
Blackmon is much more explosive than Boldin. I doubt he'll run a 4.7 at the combine.

I'd take Boldin in a second though.
Jan 15, 2012 8:28pm
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Jan 16, 2012 10:03 AM
Larry Fitzgerald didn't run a great 40 at the combine. I think he's done ok. Jerry Rice wasn't a speeedster. He did ok. Blakmon will be a stud. The eye test proves it to me.
Jan 16, 2012 10:03am
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Jan 16, 2012 10:08 AM
How can you watch Blackmon play and not think he's the best. Fuck 40 times, kid is the best player on the field anytime he suits up
Jan 16, 2012 10:08am
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Jan 16, 2012 10:45 AM
40 times and stuff like that is overrated to me. Remember when people said Joe Haden didnt run a fast enough 40 and we still took him at 7? He has looked alright to me... Game speed is what people should care about more than how fast a guy runs in a 40 yard dash.
Jan 16, 2012 10:45am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:03 AM
Two other possible QB names (either/or) who could be out there are Matt Schaub and TJ Yates. No interest in Yates but Schaub would be woth looking at. I'd think they'd dump Yates before Schaub.
Jan 16, 2012 11:03am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM
I like shuttle times better than 40 times for WRs and DBs. Shuttle times show your agility and acceleration. 40 time is more a measure of top speed (ok, acceleration as well).

However, getting in and out of cuts is much more important for WRs and DBs.

40 time becomes important if you are chasing someone down from behind, and that's it.
Jan 16, 2012 11:05am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM
BR1986FB;1054558 wrote:Two other possible QB names (either/or) who could be out there are Matt Schaub and TJ Yates. No interest in Yates but Schaub would be woth looking at. I'd think they'd dump Yates before Schaub.
They definitely won't dump Schaub. They are SB contenders with Schaub next year.
Jan 16, 2012 11:05am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:16 AM
like_that;1054562 wrote:They definitely won't dump Schaub. They are SB contenders with Schaub next year.
Agreed. I'd be pissed if they brought in Yates to compete with McCoy. Hell, Kubiak was a buffoon for not pulling Yates, when he turned into an interception machine, and plugging in (gulp) Delhomme.
Jan 16, 2012 11:16am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM
BR1986FB;1054571 wrote:Agreed. I'd be pissed if they brought in Yates to compete with McCoy. Hell, Kubiak was a buffoon for not pulling Yates, when he turned into an interception machine, and plugging in (gulp) Delhomme.
I'd put a Schaub on crutches out there, before I put failhome back in a playoff situation. Despite Yates being an INT machine, the Texans should have won anyway. They have Jacoby Jones trying to be a hero to thank.
Jan 16, 2012 11:20am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:21 AM
BR1986FB;1054571 wrote:Agreed. I'd be pissed if they brought in Yates to compete with McCoy. Hell, Kubiak was a buffoon for not pulling Yates, when he turned into an interception machine, and plugging in (gulp) Delhomme.
They didn't have any viable alternatives that's for sure.

Yates? Good lord I'll be tasting gun barrel if that happens.
Jan 16, 2012 11:21am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:28 AM
I find it hard to believe they only signed yates to a one year deal. As high as they and others were I'm sure he's signed multi years and cheap
Jan 16, 2012 11:28am
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Jan 16, 2012 11:36 AM
like_that;1054574 wrote:I'd put a Schaub on crutches out there, before I put failhome back in a playoff situation. Despite Yates being an INT machine, the Texans should have won anyway. They have Jacoby Jones trying to be a hero to thank.
Yates was a deer in headlights. He was in full on panic mode and wasn't seeing the field. In the brief time Delhomme played this year he looked solid. Putting him in there would have given Baltimore a different wrinkle to worry about. Using his time with the Browns to assume that he was going to shit the bed isn't a given. He couldn't have done much worse than Yates.

Agree on Jacoby Jones. When he tried to field that I was like "WTF?"
Jan 16, 2012 11:36am
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Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM
royal_k;1054517 wrote:Larry Fitzgerald didn't run a great 40 at the combine. I think he's done ok. Jerry Rice wasn't a speeedster. He did ok. Blakmon will be a stud. The eye test proves it to me.
Larry Fitz is about 3 or 4 inches taller than him though, thats the point with Blackmon. He's not overly big, fast, explosive off the line, has drop issues, and played in a spread offense. That's why I'd rather get a guy like Wright, Floyd, Sanu, or Quick. All of which I think have potential to be better WRs at the next level than Blackmon. Most scout's agree, Blackmon's ceiling is Boldin and that's not good enough at #4 IMO. Would I like Boldin on the Browns? Absolutely. But I'd much rather have Steve Smith, Fitzgerald, Nicks etc....
Jan 16, 2012 3:02pm