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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Apr 29, 2012 3:02 AM
hoops23;1156584 wrote:True. When is the last time the Browns had a 3,000 yard passer and 1,000 yard rusher in the same season?
Derek Anderson (3700 yards)/ Jamal Lewis (1300 yards)- 2007
Apr 28, 2012 11:02pm
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Apr 29, 2012 3:19 AM
BR1986FB;1156587 wrote:Derek Anderson (3700 yards)/ Jamal Lewis (1300 yards)- 2007
....and 37 interceptions.
Apr 28, 2012 11:19pm
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Apr 29, 2012 3:24 AM
Mulva;1156586 wrote:I would guess 2007. Wasn't that Jamal's good year?

BR1986FB;1156587 wrote:Derek Anderson (3700 yards)/ Jamal Lewis (1300 yards)- 2007
Yea that's it.. forgot all about Jamal Lewis... Seems so long ago lol.
Apr 28, 2012 11:24pm
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Apr 29, 2012 4:42 AM
More than anything, Richardson will take the pressure off of Weeden.

I'll be happy with >3000 yards, >20 TDS, and <14 INTs. So basically Dalton lol
Apr 29, 2012 12:42am
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Apr 29, 2012 2:30 PM
IggyPride00;1156519 wrote:That site says Burfict signed with the Bengals? They have had an exceptionally solid draft, and Marvin Lewis may be able to to kick his ass enough to get his talent to start coming through. Could be a huge pick-up for them.
How many players have you seen Marvin Lewis whip their character in shape?
Apr 29, 2012 10:30am
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Apr 29, 2012 2:40 PM
Kiper's grade for the Browns. Also, he graded the rest of the division higher than the Browns:

Edit: it's not pasting correctly, but the first grade is for needs, the second grade is based on value, and the third grade is the overall grade.

Cleveland Browns











Top needs: QB, RB, WR, RT, CB

Summary: The Browns will get questions on value, but they had a plan and stuck to it. They moved up to get Trent Richardson, ostensibly so Tampa Bay couldn't, and while a running back at No. 3 is always a tough value proposition, Richardson is a rare talent. The Browns clearly felt they couldn't wait to take Brandon Weeden at No. 37, and locked him up at No. 22. Given the talk surrounding Colt McCoy, they clearly expect Weeden to start. Mitchell Schwartz was a slight reach on my board at No. 37, but he's extremely experienced, and you know what you're getting at right tackle. Cleveland finally got a receiver with the No. 100 pick. I saw that as a bigger need than right tackle. There were good wideouts available at No. 37, so that's the pick I question the most.
Apr 29, 2012 10:40am
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Apr 29, 2012 3:00 PM
^^^^once we got weeden, i was hoping they would go wr at 37 and rt at 67
Apr 29, 2012 11:00am
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Apr 29, 2012 3:02 PM
lhslep134;1156568 wrote:So what are we expecting out of Weeden next year? And what should we be happy with?

3000 yards? 22/12 TD/INT?
I am expecting what 80% of all 1st round QB's do that are NOT the number one prospect. Not living up to being a 1st round draft selection.

I hope I'm wrong but the numbers don't lie.
Apr 29, 2012 11:02am
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Apr 29, 2012 3:12 PM
dazedconfused;1156755 wrote:^^^^once we got weeden, i was hoping they would go wr at 37 and rt at 67
That is how it should have been done.

Taking a RT at 37 is just not a value pick as Kiper said. Those are usually had much later in the draft.
Apr 29, 2012 11:12am
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Apr 29, 2012 3:54 PM
BR1986FB;1156534 wrote:Signed UDFA's....Cleveland Browns
Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State
Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St
Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State
Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho
Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt
J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State
Josh Linam, LB, UCF
Jake Anderson, OT, Akron

JB fucking Shugarts
Apr 29, 2012 11:54am
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Apr 29, 2012 4:39 PM
Signed 3 undrafted Tackles but yet used the 37th pick on one. In a couple years I think we will be looking at those 3rd and 4th round picks and say we couldve filled bigger needs with better players.
Apr 29, 2012 12:39pm
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Apr 29, 2012 4:48 PM
I dont think you need to wait that long to realize we shit the bed with those picks
Apr 29, 2012 12:48pm
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Apr 29, 2012 4:49 PM
The OU alum/homer in me was hoping that Cleveland was going to go WR with one of their back-to-back picks in the 6th round, since at that point LaVon Brazill was the best available WR according to ESPN, and fuck knows they needed to get more WR's.

They didn't take Brazill OR a WR at all with those picks, and the Colts took him with the very next pick. Damnit.

DeadliestWarrior34;1156774 wrote:JB fucking Shugarts
At least the Browns filled a need. Sadly, the need they filled was committing dumb penalties, and they really didn't need that much help in that department as it was...
Apr 29, 2012 12:49pm
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Apr 29, 2012 5:04 PM
Also wanted Brazill in the last few rds
Apr 29, 2012 1:04pm
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Apr 29, 2012 5:15 PM
WR at 37 should have been done. Instead you sign 2 FA's. Hopefully they are hidden gems.
Apr 29, 2012 1:15pm
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Apr 29, 2012 5:23 PM
Hopefully they got a WR with good hands. Dropped balls plagued the offense as much as anything....probably cause McCoy was throwing them too hard LOL.
Apr 29, 2012 1:23pm
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Apr 29, 2012 6:33 PM
Josh Cooper was a good signing IMO....good hands and a guy that Weeden is familiar with.
Apr 29, 2012 2:33pm
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Apr 30, 2012 12:11 PM
What is everyone's pros and cons for the offseason so far?.....mine are...

Pros.

Not pulling the trigger on the RG3 trade.
Getting their guy...TRich.
Addressing the Oline via the draft

Cons

The John Hughes pick
The Weeden pick over DeCastro
Not addressing wide receivers until late in the draft
Free agency was a flop.


*Overall, I would give them a C- for the offseason so far. Still by far the worst team in the division(on paper) and having the worst offseason of any of the teams in the division as well.
Apr 30, 2012 8:11am
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Apr 30, 2012 12:21 PM
I'm glad we didn't go crazy in FA, as I've stated before I think its fools gold.
Apr 30, 2012 8:21am
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Apr 30, 2012 2:33 PM
Commander of Awesome;1157418 wrote:I'm glad we didn't go crazy in FA, as I've stated before I think its fools gold.
Which is funny because a lot of the same people who were bitching about them not grabbing free agent players (implying a "sense of urgency") are now unhappy that they drafted a "must play now" 28 year old QB (implying they DO have a sense of urgency).
Apr 30, 2012 10:33am
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Apr 30, 2012 2:42 PM
BR1986FB;1157549 wrote:Which is funny because a lot of the same people who were bitching about them not grabbing free agent players (implying a "sense of urgency") are now unhappy that they drafted a "must play now" 28 year old QB (implying they DO have a sense of urgency).
Not me.
Apr 30, 2012 10:42am
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Apr 30, 2012 2:44 PM
wes_mantooth;1157415 wrote:What is everyone's pros and cons for the offseason so far?.....mine are...

Pros.

Not pulling the trigger on the RG3 trade.
Getting their guy...TRich.
Addressing the Oline via the draft

Cons

The John Hughes pick
The Weeden pick over DeCastro
Not addressing wide receivers until late in the draft
Free agency was a flop.


*Overall, I would give them a C- for the offseason so far. Still by far the worst team in the division(on paper) and having the worst offseason of any of the teams in the division as well.
Pretty much how I feel except FA. Not a huge fan of FA, but I did wish we could have signed an OLB and Winston. Oh well.
Apr 30, 2012 10:44am
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Apr 30, 2012 2:52 PM
I guess Kiley & Booms had the 3rd round pick (John Hughes) on this morning and were very disrespectful to him. A-holes...
Apr 30, 2012 10:52am