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Apr 17, 2012 8:40 PM
S&L and Sleeper are the biggest douche bags on this site. Read through any thread and all they do is troll. I'm pretty sure the highlight of their day is starting crap on message boards.
Apr 17, 2012 8:40pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:40 PM
BR1986FB;1146287 wrote:Hey Handjobs&Trannies....did you ever think that when you're posting that shit on my Facebook that I might have coworkers who see that? I'm a director of an executive recruiting firm and all I need is people seeing some bullshit steroid accusations from some punk ass midget with a Napolean Complex who can't keep his mouth shut so he gets the fuck beat out of him by a gang at Ohio University, on occasion, when I DON'T do steroids. THAT'S why you got defriended. You're MUCH dumber than most of us thought. No wonder you're getting the fuck beat out of you randomly, on a regular basis by strangers...:rolleyes:
lol handjobs&trannies? wtf

I didn't post shit on ur facebook either haha no idea what you are talking about. I said you defriended me on facebook because of a steroid joke I made on here.
Apr 17, 2012 8:40pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:41 PM
Footwedge;1146300 wrote:Da Dorkey has spoken. Young cootch about 23 or so....Amirite? Listen up kid....whenever you're done chewing up daddy's tuition money....go out and get a job...and then get back to me. If this were my site, fodderfucks like you would not be allowed.
LOL and you are what? 40+? You probably sit at the bar and talk about the good old days when kids like me didn't call you out for your "opinions." If this were your site, it wouldn't have lasted a year, and you can take that to the bank. Quit being such a pussy when it comes to conversation LOL
Apr 17, 2012 8:41pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:41 PM
BR1986FB;1146301 wrote:And that's the ONLY reason I posted them because a) I usually get to them quicker and b) most people are too lazy to look them up. Nowhere have I said that "these articles are my opinion and my opinion only" like some seem to think.
It's definitely appreciated.

Curiously, if we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, what QB(s) would you target/what round?
Apr 17, 2012 8:41pm
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Footwedge

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Apr 17, 2012 8:44 PM
lhslep134;1146298 wrote:if you want crap, look at failwedge's attempt to comprehend percentiles on the indians/royals thread. not to mention he can't even answer my simple question. he's the one "spewing crap"


I don't mind BR, he posts articles that provide information that I don't have time to look for on my own, and the only problem I've had with one of his posts is his hypocritical one regarding the offense around McCoy, and even then I understand what he's trying to say.

But if there weren't stupid, off topic, irrelevant arguments, this wouldn't be an interwebz messaging board. I just want to see anyone take anything personally.
Good God yall...the attorney wannabee is a sore loser!!. How about that folks. The guy got admitted into SEC law school and doesn't know the definition of "percentile". What a hootall.

Your use of the term "failwedge" is oh so cute. Face it LSP, you suck at this.

Whenever you're done barreling through daddy's law school cash, try Phoenix U for a mathematics remedial class. Even lawyers need to know how check books work.
Apr 17, 2012 8:44pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:44 PM
BR does your executive recruiting firm have a "no steroids" policy to work there?
Apr 17, 2012 8:44pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:44 PM
lhslep134;1146307 wrote:It's definitely appreciated.

Curiously, if we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, what QB(s) would you target/what round?
None. Maybe Osweiler in the 4th/5th but he'll probably be gone by then.
Apr 17, 2012 8:44pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:45 PM
Footwedge;1146311 wrote:Good God yall...the attorney wannabee is a sore loser!!. How about that folks. The guy got admitted into SEC law school and doesn't know the definition of "percentile". What a hootall.

Your use of the term "failwedge" is oh so cute. Face it LSP, you suck at this.

Whenever you're done barreling through daddy's law school cash, try Phoenix U for a mathematics remedial class. Even lawyers need to know how check books work.
Arizona is an SEC school?
Apr 17, 2012 8:45pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Apr 17, 2012 8:45 PM
lhslep134;1146307 wrote:It's definitely appreciated.

Curiously, if we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, what QB(s) would you target/what round?
I'd target Ryan Lindley and Chandler Harnish
Apr 17, 2012 8:45pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:50 PM
Footwedge in all seriousness do you have a college degree?

6th out of 25 is the 76th percentile, not the 6th. Numbers 26~infinity don't matter because they don't exist. I'm truly horrified that you can't comprehend such a simple mathematical idea.

Also, I asked you to name my "losing" argument, something you still haven't done.
Apr 17, 2012 8:50pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:50 PM
SportsAndLady;1146314 wrote:Arizona is an SEC school?
I didn't get the notice we moved with TAMU and Mizzou to the SEC.
Apr 17, 2012 8:50pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:52 PM
lhslep134;1146307 wrote:It's definitely appreciated.

Curiously, if we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, what QB(s) would you target/what round?
Nothing. I really have no idea what they are going to do. They're fucked if you ask me. Whiffed on RG3. If they draft Tannehill at 4 it will RUIN this franchise, imo.

Unless H&H have a "wink/nod" deal with Lerner, they are in a pickle. Don't likely have their franchise QB and are facing a schedule with likely 1-3 wins. By my math 5 wins to 4 wins to 1-3 wins does not bode well for this regime. If they move forward with McCoy as the starter, and HEAR me out, and they win 1-3 games, somebodies head is gonna roll. If they were to start a rookie (Weeden, etc) that would at least buy the staff another year with the "rookie QB" excuse.

What some may not realize is they could use one of those picks on a Weeden, throw him into the fire on a "trial run", see if he looks good moving forward with as their QB and if not still have a high enough pick to draft a QB next year. If they move forward with McCoy (doing nothing about the QB position) and he fails, it may not be as easy to explain to Lerner. From that interview he (Lerner) had earlier in the year, I didn't get the feeling he was a McCoy fan.

I want no part of Wilson, Cousins, Kellen Moore, etc. That's no "competition" for McCoy. That's just handing him the job again.
Apr 17, 2012 8:52pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:53 PM
Commander of Awesome;1146313 wrote:None. Maybe Osweiler in the 4th/5th but he'll probably be gone by then.
So you don't want any QB from this draft (and by that I mean including Tannehill or Weeden at pick 37 or earlier)? I'm probably not interpreting your post right
Apr 17, 2012 8:53pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:53 PM
BR1986FB;1146333 wrote:Nothing. I really have no idea what they are going to do. They're fucked if you ask me. Whiffed on RG3. If they draft Tannehill at 4 it will RUIN this franchise, imo.

Unless H&H have a "wink/nod" deal with Lerner, they are in a pickle. Don't likely have their franchise QB and are facing a schedule with likely 1-3 wins. By my math 5 wins to 4 wins to 1-3 wins does not bode well for this regime. If they move forward with McCoy as the starter, and HEAR me out, and they win 1-3 games, somebodies head is gonna roll. If they were to start a rookie (Weeden, etc) that would at least buy the staff another year with the "rookie QB" excuse.

What some may not realize is they could use one of those picks on a Weeden, throw him into the fire on a "trial run", see if he looks good moving forward with as their QB and if not still have a high enough pick to draft a QB next year. If they move forward with McCoy (doing nothing about the QB position) and he fails, it may not be as easy to explain to Lerner. From that interview he (Lerner) had earlier in the year, I didn't get the feeling he was a McCoy fan.

I want no part of Wilson, Cousins, Kellen Moore, etc. That's no "competition" for McCoy. That's just handing him the job again.
the browns are fucked. let's hang up the cleats this year and not play.
Apr 17, 2012 8:53pm
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Footwedge

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Apr 17, 2012 8:57 PM
lhslep134;1146327 wrote:Footwedge in all seriousness do you have a college degree?

6th out of 25 is the 76th percentile, not the 6th. Numbers 26~infinity don't matter because they don't exist. I'm truly horrified that you can't comprehend such a simple mathematical idea.

Also, I asked you to name my "losing" argument, something you still haven't done.
As McEnroe said..."you cannot be serious". Or can you?

Let's review shall we?

I claim that Pomeranz is in the top 10 percentile. You claim he wasn't. I showed a link showing that he was the top 6 pitcher prospect. Author lists top 25 pitchers only. And....somehow you think that my argument is flawed? Are you serious?

Listen up kid...percentiles are based on blocks of 100....which I proved in the subsequent post. So I ask you again....what happened to numbers 26 through 100?

Percentiles do not equal percentages...never have...never will. Buy a dictionary and learn.
Apr 17, 2012 8:57pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:57 PM
BR1986FB;1146333 wrote:Nothing. I really have no idea what they are going to do. They're ****ed if you ask me. Whiffed on RG3. If they draft Tannehill at 4 it will RUIN this franchise, imo.

Unless H&H have a "wink/nod" deal with Lerner, they are in a pickle. Don't likely have their franchise QB and are facing a schedule with likely 1-3 wins. By my math 5 wins to 4 wins to 1-3 wins does not bode well for this regime. If they move forward with McCoy as the starter, and HEAR me out, and they win 1-3 games, somebodies head is gonna roll. If they were to start a rookie (Weeden, etc) that would at least buy the staff another year with the "rookie QB" excuse.

What some may not realize is they could use one of those picks on a Weeden, throw him into the fire on a "trial run", see if he looks good moving forward with as their QB and if not still have a high enough pick to draft a QB next year. If they move forward with McCoy (doing nothing about the QB position) and he fails, it may not be as easy to explain to Lerner. From that interview he (Lerner) had earlier in the year, I didn't get the feeling he was a McCoy fan.

I want no part of Wilson, Cousins, Kellen Moore, etc. That's no "competition" for McCoy. That's just handing him the job again.
So what if a QB with a second round grade (like Foles) is there in the 4th, do you pull the trigger? I feel like you have to.
Apr 17, 2012 8:57pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:57 PM
DeyDurkie5;1146336 wrote:the browns are fucked. let's hang up the cleats this year and not play.
And you wonder why people give you shit? They HAVE to play the games but I just don't see a lot of promise there. I happen to see things pretty bleak (current QB situation, poor skill players, etc) while you seem to think I'm going to owe you a steak dinner. :laugh: Things could be worse. At least they don't have to dress up like bumblebee convicts (Steelers new throwbacks)
Apr 17, 2012 8:57pm
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Apr 17, 2012 8:59 PM
Footwedge;1146338 wrote:As McEnroe said..."you cannot be serious". Or can you?

Let's review shall we?

I claim that Pomeranz is in the top 10 percentile. You claiom he wasn't. I showed a link showing that he was the top 6 pitcher prospect. Author lists 25 pitchers. And....somehow you think that the argument is flawed? Are you serious?

Listen up kid...percentiles are based on blocks of 100....which I proved in the subsequent post. Sop I ask you again....what happened to numbers 26 through 100?

Percentiles do not equal percentages...never have...never will. Buy a dictionary and learn.
You are so dumb, and this post is wrong. You have to be a dumbass redneck, that's the only explanation for how ignorant you are.


Just in case you feel the need to look even more stupid, your link on that thread was for fantasy rankings, not quality rankings.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7547690/mlb-top-100-prospects-2012-mike-trout-bryce-harper-more

In that list, Pomeranz is 50th overally and the 25th listed pitcher. Regardless, he's nowhere close to top 10th perctile, whatever incorrect definition you use.


To the rest of the OC, I'm sorry that I had to waste your time schooling this idiot.
Apr 17, 2012 8:59pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:01 PM
I'd like to chime in and LOL at Foodwedge.



Now, carry on, please.
Apr 17, 2012 9:01pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:01 PM
lhslep134;1146335 wrote:So you don't want any QB from this draft (and by that I mean including Tannehill or Weeden at pick 37 or earlier)? I'm probably not interpreting your post right
IMO the only QBs worth a shit in this year's draft are Luck and RG3. I think Tannehill could have a future if handled right, but in the era that the NFL operates in, its simply not in the cards to develop him correctly. Since he'll be a top 10 pick, he's going to thrown to the fire early and probably fail. Osweiler has the tools, but I worry that he's DA 2.0. Wilson, Moore stand zero chance of anything in this league IMO. Wilson may be a back up for a team, but what's the point of drafting a QB that's not even as good as Seneca Wallace? Lindley of SD St. has the talent, but I'm very weary of any QB in college that doesn't display the accuracy needed to compete in the NFL. Lindley fits this bill, his accuracy is all over the place. I dont see this has something he can improve in the NFL if he couldnt do it in college against worse competition.

Cousins doesn't impress me, and I don't see him as ever being even equal to McCoy, so what's the point? I watched a ton of his games, probably more than any other QB in this draft actually, and I have yet to come away even thinking, that guy could start in the NFL.

I'm not a Weeden fan for various reasons, 28 yrs old, spread offense, HORRIBLE pass defense of the conference, and his abysmal performance while under pressure. You have to be able to perform while being blitzed in the NFL, that's a given. He has yet to display the skill necessary to do this, thus I have my doubts of him succeeding the NFL. How anyone can be IMO is kidding themselves and having "faith" in something he has yet to display/develop.

Foles I know the least about in this draft of the higher caliber QBs. Thus I don't have much of an opinion of the kid.
Apr 17, 2012 9:01pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:01 PM
BR1986FB;1146340 wrote:And you wonder why people give you shit? They HAVE to play the games but I just don't see a lot of promise there. I happen to see things pretty bleak (current QB situation, poor skill players, etc) while you seem to think I'm going to owe you a steak dinner. :laugh: Things could be worse. At least they don't have to dress up like bumblebee convicts (Steelers new throwbacks)
The browns have 13 picks in this draft, with a regime that has been proven to find starters in the draft. With that many picks, and 3 in the top 40, there is no doubt in my mind that we get some starters to fill the holes(OLB, RB, WR, RT). You wonder why people give you shit, and why you took a break from this thread, you think our entire season and draft is based on finding a QB to replace McCoy. The steak dinner will be coming this year BR, and I can't wait.

I do agree with you though, those steeler uniforms are fucking awful LOL
Apr 17, 2012 9:01pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:02 PM
SportsAndLady;1146314 wrote:Arizona is an SEC school?
No...but Auburn is. Excuse me for mistaking his A for Auburn. Given his mathematics skillset, Arizona people would be embarassed as hell.
Apr 17, 2012 9:02pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:02 PM
lhslep134;1146339 wrote:So what if a QB with a second round grade (like Foles) is there in the 4th, do you pull the trigger? I feel like you have to.
I think they will do something at the QB position but I don't think they are going to wait until the 3rd round or later for a project like Moore, Wilson, etc. Waste of a pick. Backups at best. Osweiler is probably a likely backup too.

I agree with previous posts that in a perfect world they could fast forward to next years QB class because it's looking to be deep. Problem is, unless they have that "wink/nod" agreement in place with Lerner they are going to have to be in "win now or at least try "mode. Otherwise, for those who have been harping on "continuity", we may be looking at ANOTHER rebuild.
Apr 17, 2012 9:02pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:03 PM
I clicked on this Browns thread and now I'm thinking,"This is what the Jets locker room must've been like last season."
Apr 17, 2012 9:03pm
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Apr 17, 2012 9:04 PM
killer_ewok;1146350 wrote:I clicked on this Browns thread and now I'm thinking,"This is what the Jets locker room must've been like last season."
yeah. except we are at page number 245, and the steelers are at 7. How's the syracuse orange, notre dame fighting irish, and steelers doing? Oh wait, you don't care until they are in the playoffs LOL pwnd
Apr 17, 2012 9:04pm